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Methos
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 		Russell's Flickr account
The second picture from Betty is "lotsoftriangles.jpg".

in the comments:

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hey it's me, betty. sorry this took so long but the research studies center at cambridge would only give me access on certain days. they would not allow me to trace anything but i snuck one triangle per visit. the page i took this from had only roman numerals, but that got really confusing and even more messy. so i changed to the numbers. the page i took this from was mostly black and around these triangles was a sketchy kinda "universe" drawing. this universe was centered around an image of a man-lion (mithras). these triangles sat amongst the stars. there were three pages of the same exact image. (universe with these triangles)

everything here has gotten really weird. i'm so sleep deprived that i'm dizzy just walking across the room. sorry i've had to check out for bit, but johnson's really coming at me hard right now.
we cannot fail!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:45 am
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 		I am thinking a constellation with the numbers, and the triangles just to confuse it. I dont know any of the northern hemisphere constellations but i dont think its southern hemisphere

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chixor1
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 		I got this email from Betty, it seems to be in relation to the other maps.
I thought it should belong here, even though its a little late compared to us getting the other one.

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sallyyyyy,
something has been happening to me. i don't know how johnson's eidolon is getting to me, but i'm really flipping out. i am now so sleep deprived that i'm not even making any sense anymore. mrs. foucher is worried i'm losing touch with reality. i don't think it's that bad yet, but i'm working my way in that direction. sorry i haven't written but i thought it was best to stay away from emails and every other kind of contact with any sammeeeees for awhile. it didn't help. the laughing and howling has been getting worse. i'm in and out of sleep and drinking way too much coffee. my mind is fried. i find it hard to focus on one thing at a time. i've been working hard to get all the tracings completed but it was hard. cambridge was not very cooperative. i even tried to explain the situation and they looked at me like i'm high. whatever. so, i wanted you guys to know i've put the tracing i promised you up on russell's flickr space. there's a note with the tracing. please get this to the others. i did the best i can with it. let me know if you have any questions. thanks. are you okay? please, take care.
we cannot fail
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tigerlilylynn
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 		In the interest of running down the star chart idea here is the pic with spots on the numbered corners only

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This looks, at first, like Crater (the cup/goblet) which is seen here http://www.acmecompany.com/stock_thumbnails/11920.corvus_&_crater.gif next to corvus (natch). It's a Spring constellation and appears near Leo.

Other contenders (with various degrees of squint and hope, key to seeing figures in dots):

Bootes (the huntsman) Spring
http://www.dibonsmith.com/boo.htm

Lupus (the wolf) Spring
http://www.dibonsmith.com/lup.htm

Virgo (the virgin) Spring, Near Leo
http://www.dibonsmith.com/vir.htm

Taurus (the bull) Winter, Part of Mithras myth
http://www.dibonsmith.com/tau.htm

Puppis (the poop deck) Part of a larger constellation set, Argo Navis
http://www.dibonsmith.com/pup.htm
http://www.coldwater.k12.mi.us/lms/planetarium/myth/argonavis.html

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konamouse
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 		Turn it upside down and it's really close to that picture of Virgo.

Googling Virgo & Mithras led me to this page

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Most important is the killing of the bull. This act is a clear indication that the Age of Taurus is ending. But, it also speaks volumes with regards to the psychic morality of a Mithras follower. It is the initiate's objective to overcome the false truths which prevent him from seeing the real truth. Unlike Egypt, this is not a gnostic pursuit. It says that truth is self evident and an initiate must overcome disinformation which blocks the truth. When the bull of the mother is overcome, the initiate becomes a man. That is evident in the following star chart which shows the vernal equinox in 2214 BC occurring as Perseus bags the Medusa and ascends through the opening in the cosmic plane to the upper world.


Virgo is in the center between the Alters of Leo and Perses.
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Between the galactic intersections are seven altars. These seven altars represent the seven spirits of God. Three to the left correspond to three constellations at the ecliptic/galactic intersection at Sagittarius, Scorpio, and Ophiuchus. These are also the aspects of communication, and represent the highest three spirits in the Mithraic grades; cognition, medium, and message (Perses, Sun Runner, Father). The four altars to the right of Virgo represent the four constellations at the ecliptic/galactic intersection at Taurus, Orion, Gemini, and Auriga. These are also aspects of the four lower grades of the created world; earth, water, air, and fire (crow, nymphus, soldier, lion).


This page has a summary view of Mithras as ruler of the universe and how the constallations along the equinox have moved since the Greco-Roman time due to earth wobble. There is some other stuff about cosmic universe that is going way over my head.
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enaxor
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 		I was fishing for more information. It seems the only thing I got was confirmation that we're looking for a constellation.

enaxor wrote:
Russell,

Please tell Betty thank you for posting the second item. I just wish I could tell you guys that we've figured them out, but unfortunately we have no idea what to do with them. Could you ask Betty if the numbers from the triangles were positioned over stars. We are thinking it's some sort of representation of a constellation, but no luck yet in finding it. I hope we figure this out soon. Be careful.

enaxor


Betty wrote:
enaxor, this is betty. the triangles were so faded as was the picture of the universe that i cannot say for sure. i would guess yes. does it appear to be close to any particular constellation? i'm sure you guys will figure this out.
betty


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:40 pm
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konamouse
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 		Drawing and Rotating
I can't do much at work, but I tried drawing lines (by the numbers) and then rotating it around.
I'm trying to look at constallations (focusing around Taurus, Corax, Persus, etc) for something similar. I'm still drawn to Virgo (but you have to turn the current drawing upside down to compare).

Maybe mapmaker can play around with it?
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 		[INFO] Mithraic Stars
Maybe it's a combination of several constellations. The familiar mithraic scene (or tauroctony), is thought, by some, to be a star map.
From this site:
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However, since 1836 a number of scholars have proposed that the tauroctony is actually a star map - a symbolic representation of particular equatorial constellations. Within the star map interpretation Mithras has a celestial persona and is either identified with Perseus located above Taurus the bull or Orion which is located beside Taurus the bull. The other figures present on tauroctonies are also given a celestial identification. The bull is Taurus, the dog is Canis Minor, the snake is Hydra, the scorpion is Scorpio, the raven is Corvus, the wheat ear (depicted on the bull's tail) is Spica (= Alpha Virginis, a proxy for Virgo), the twins Cautes and Cautopates are Gemini, the lion is Leo, crater is Crater, Sol is the Sun, Luna is the Moon, and the cave is the Universe. Quite often Corvus, Spica, Leo, and Crater are missing from tauroctonies. Mithras' sword is Aries. It is clear that the elements comprising the Mithraic bull-slaying scene were intentionally chosen to symbolise particular celestial phenomena in an organised manner.


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 		I asked Nedd about Betty's "arcana imperii"-pictures. He wrote:

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MEEETHOS!!! This sounds TOTALLEEE like something I TOTALLEEE KNOWWW!!! YEOW!!! My memory is all like "hey I've totalleee heard of that" and I'm all "cool cuz you can help out your BUDDD MEEETHOS"!!! Right? PSYCHE! Okay.. I'm going to stand on my head and try to remember. MEEETHOS, I will do my best to help you.

later
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 		Nedd wrote again:

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MEEETHOS!!! Dick White TOTALEEE knows what this is!!! I'm all ready to tell you.. but I'm all I don't know, but I remember Dick White going on and on about this. It's something OOONLY Mr. Alan Johnson's know about. I was never a Mr. Alan Johnson. I'm all so NEDD LUDD!!! YIKES!!! ME? HA!!! MR. ALAN NEDD LUDD JOHNSON!!! PSYCHE!!! Right? This is some sort of TOTALLEEE SECRET SECRET SECRET THING!!! We aren't supposed to know what this means!!! Right? So, we need to talk to Dick White. And Dick White is TOTALLEEE DEAD!!! BUMMER!!! Should we have a seance? Remember Mildred would have a seance when we needed to reach out to the other side? But Mildred is under the Nave!!! MAYBEEE if someone else did a seance, we could get Dick White to come to us and talk to us? THAT WOULD ROCK!!! HE IS THE MANNN!!! MEEETHOS, I can't do a seance. It FREEEAKS ME OUT waaay too much. We should get the someone else in the UNDER NEDD'S BED CREWWW to do this. YEOW!!! NOW I'M SO PSYCHED!!! Smile Smile Smile I CAN'T STAND IT!!! MEEETHOS, I haven't surfed in like 4 days. IT IS NOT GOOOD!!! YIKES!!! BAD HEAD BUZZZING!!!
later
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:10 pm
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konamouse
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 		uhm, drizjr or enaxor? how do you guys feel about leading a seance? Insane? Celina? Tigerlily? Jenna? Mapmaker? come on out folks and show us some skills!

anyone in the UNBC have a vid camera and want to throw something up on YouTube? maybe you can get Happy to do it? Or Wendy Way?

Ooooh, is Betty back from the UK yet? Maybe she can do it?

Just thinking outloud.
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 		Heh. Nedd's even funnier 'in person'
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Since it's pertinent to the discussion:

Nedd wrote:

AAAZURE!!! DUDE!!! GET OUT OF MY TRASH!!! HA!!! Dude, I just got your email. I'm so BUMMED I missed it!!! Dude, you can TOTALLEEE help us out. You have two choices. You can join the UNDER NEDD'S BED CREWWW!!! (THE CROWD GOES WILD!!!) Or you can try your luck on the DARK SIDE!!! Say the DARK SIDE with a deep voice. You will TOTALLEEE FREEEAK yourself out!!! YIKES!!! If you would like to get UNDER NEDD'S BED, we are planning a seance. Put your hands on your computer keyboard... We need someone to reach out to the other side. Let's first figure out how we can all reach out together. I cannot attend. DEAD PEOPLE FREEEAK ME OUTTT!!! Hey, AAAZURE, do you surf? YEOW!!!
later
white r 2


Azure (me) wrote:

Sweet! I was wondering what had happened, man. Very Happy

I want to join the Under Nedd's Bed Crew, without a doubt! Been my plan from the start. Hmm. Seance? If we need instant communication, there's always chat rooms. Beyond that, there's even live voice chats with some things -- I know Yahoo has it, Skype might. Webcams are always possible, but maybe we could have just one person on webcam for leading it? Simple is good!

If live isn't needed, then we could just do videos/voicemails/e-mails and post them all at a certain time.

And no, I don't surf, Nedd. Sorry, man, I totally would if I could. Ride some extra waves in my place! ^_^

-Az


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 		Has anyone tried overlaying the triangle page over the first page to see what appears at each star point?

Also Betty said she found 3 pages that are exactly the same so I am thinking we will probably get a word or phrase that we need to repeat 3 times?
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 		Now that we had some help from Dick White, I'd sure like to know how the document held the answer "veritas lux mea". It looks like the triangles should have been placed over the first document.

I'm at work and cannot do that, maybe someone else can fiddle around with the pictures and reverse solve this?
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I'd sure like to know how the document held the answer "veritas lux mea".


Well there are 13 points on the triangle map and 13 letters in Veritas lux mea and 3 triangle pages that are exactly the same. So I'm sure overlaying the triangle page on the first page gives us the phrase Veritas Lux Mea and the 3 pages signifies we repeat the phrase 3 times.
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