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Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers. The webmail account was found by sending sente an e-mail with some coded text. He or she broke the code and went to a website that my associates had set up. My associate watched the references, to see if ol' sente would show up. Sente did show up, and that's how we derived the webmail page.

The game is played in both directions, yes?

Regards,

sam

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[vpisteve]

Well, on one hand, all's fair and all that....

but on the other hand, just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

Little peeks behind the curtain can be fun for some people, but ultimately it takes away from the fun of the game, imho. Trying to hack into the backdoor workings of the game is very bad form.

If hacking is part of the game, the PMs will make it absolutely clear as to when/where/how it's okay to try.

Squirrelmail is a pretty common webmail system that a lot of webhosts install automatically in everyone's account. I'd but my efforts elsewhere if I were you.

[Flynn]

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[Slyfox]

It's a bit like looking for Christmas presents when you are a kid. It's fun at the time but ultimately disappointing. Also, if PMs feel they have to spend all their time make their games hack proof then no one going to bother setting them up. We all acknowledge that "This is not a game" etc etc but I don't think we should declare war on the PMs until they do so on us.

Part of the problem is that ARGing has certain "unwritten rules" and "gentleman's agreement" which are not always obvious upon arrival. Perhaps there is room for a bare knuckle discussion about what is and what is not acceptable within the ARGing community. How about a PM's and Player's Charter? Any takers?

[neon snake]

[g_rott]

[Adrian]

It's a very interesting idea, a Player's Charter, and it has the potential to solve or clarify a lot of problems. However, as previously noted, it does harm the suspension of disbelief. Also, its exact form would be very important.

For example, none of us wants to see a long and dull list of rules; that's just no fun for anyone. And neither do we want a pithy message which basically says 'play nice'. Something in the middle is best, both in terms of form and presentation. Even if you had a good set of guidelines for players, you wouldn't want to put them up on a main site with a link saying 'Player Guidelines'; similarly, you couldn't just send them to player communities because then there'd be no guarantee that everyone would see it. You'd have to figure a way of slipping it into the game world seamlessly.

As for the content, I imagine things like, 'Do not attack game assets or infrastructure - i.e. no DOSing, hacking of servers, etc' would do well, as would, 'No impersonation of game characters or websites'.

Like I said, it's an interesting and difficult question which really falls under the greater umbrella of 'community relations'. May god help whoever gets a job like that

(As usual, only personal opinion in this message, nothing specifically Syzygy-related. Although we *are* based in London. And I imagine that when we launch it won't be all that difficult to find our offices - it's just going to be something we'll have to deal with, perhaps with giant genetically engineered attack dogs...)

[rose]

Adrian writes:

[neon snake]

What I, personally, would be after, I think, is not so much a hard and fast 'do this...', 'don't do this...' list, but more in terms of guidelines...
- It would be considered bad form to delberately spoil the story..
- It would be considered bad form to crack the PMs database..
etc
etc

rather than restrictive 'these are the Rules of the game, which are not to be broken'.

[Diandra]

Ten Commandments

[jamesi]

Best list evar. And if anyone knows the genre, it's Martavius, who has seen everything from the Beast on down.

Edit: My 300th post could not have been a better one. Giving kudos to Martavius, an often overlooked/underappreciated member of this community is well worth the milestone.

[Gupfee]

[Sunny du Pree]