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[SPEC] TRAILER/PICS ANALYSIS
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Back to the future?

Speaking of 1-18....new pic up!!!

Okay not really. I just always wanted to say that Razz

Zap makes a good point ya know? I got to thinking about the function of 1-18 site...from an IG standpoint. We've all really dealt with it as an out of game photo album...but if that was truly its purpose, there would be no way this early to have discovered slusho at all - that came from a sharp eye on the trailer video. So if it was OOG, it would suggest two things: they really weren't ready for us to show up and 2. they're BTS paying attention and baiting us with a picture each week and a half roughly....and by they, I mean "PMs" they. They're essentially playing off of us...and then that raises some really strong questions on what, exactly, is going on here....

Isn't there like a rule of the 4th Wall being violated, raped and pillaged here if so?

Granted it's hindsight but look for a sec at this from an IG perspective. Unless we missed something big (and you knooowwww we have!) the only thing we really got from the evolution of adding photos was the date/time stamp providing a sense of event cohesion, a time window but even putting them in order didn't uncover anything all that breaking. If this was already intended to be one at a time over time, then the reasonable conclusion is they weren't ready for anyone to have found slusho, which would easily explain why it appeared "under construction" and then suddenly gets an upgrade and is launched last week?

Seriously? They had these sites up BEFORE any of us found them...so they already had something in mind for them. Did they seriously underestimate the player base that horribly? Or....did we underestimate them? I did suggest this once before that if these sites are up as is, that's how they were always intended to be...but it got glazed over in favor of presuming they're not ready yet and because of us hitting both sites they're basically having to scramble to get something rolling so we don't lose interest....which effectively puts the players in control over their "game" and they don't have a good grip on this at all.

I got issue with that in light of my question about 1-18 site's role.

The trail went directly from the trailer to the 1-18 site that was there waiting on us...having been up a few months already and having no content but a single curious picture we could move about. After a couple, we're now clued in that we're supposed to manipulate the photos for some unknown purpose, which makes sense now with pic 5, they flip over and wow messages. Sadly we will never know if the message on the back of Rob's drink picture was there all along and we never managed to flip it over and find it.

In hindsight, from IG perspective, the clue that would lead to the character blogs comes from pic 5 itself, not necessarily the names but that first comment by Jamie about spreading the pic of her hotness far and wide....clearly and obviously a nod to myspace (for those familiar with it that is)...it's a typical myspace "whore train" style comment and I strongly feel that it was the line itself as the clue to direct attention to myspace, which would work finally with some names.

That they did that though makes 1-18 in game it seems so what is the reason for this site? The ones operating the site from an IG standpoint have images of a date in the future.

Wolf I think it was mentioned about Jamie writing on the back of it, but that's a little screwy doncha think, considering these have always been considered digital photos (implied uploaded to the web from cellphone or digital camera, hence the timestamp) so what's with the writing at all? Is this a screw up oversight? If the pics are digital, you can't write on the back of them....but if they're supposed to be scans of photographs you can write on, where does the timestamp come from and why is it the same on all pics? They came from the same camera?

If so, shouldn't we be looking for the one who took these photos and possibly how they were able to fast forward, grab pics, come back and post them? Are they warnings of what is to come? In terms of how they are presenting the movie itself - we see what happens on 1-18 after it's happened via footage....and 1-18 site is way too void of "commercialism" to serve as the official "movie" site.

Is there anything to support a possible thread of "back to the future"? Yes, actually - directly from those myspace pages and the entire issue of figuring out who the camera guy is, only worked out because of the ms pages: and that is the several references by some of them about being able to fast forward into the future and see themselves there...

If it's OOG across the board then 1-18 is basically the PMs website teaser and no more...so why give "clues" like that? If it's IG, then there's a distinct arrow pointing to flashbacks of a future event that has not happened yet, with characters who just happen to be intrigued by being able to do that very thing....connected to camera guy...

In plain sight....thinking laterally - while this may not be "it" it's still taking what is presented and taking it in a logical direction - and that is the above...depending on the actual function and role of the 1-18 site.

In game or OOG?

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you can get pics from a digicam developed

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tygr20 wrote:
wolfz0rz wrote:
I really can't shake the feeling though that the smudge on the back of picture 5 is significant. The "and w" of far and wide seem to be deliberately smudged, while nothing around it really is.

It's bugging me. Confused


If the writer/s is/are left handed, the smudge could be caused there.


It's a good point, but left handed smudges don't look like that, those are specifically focused on those four letters. They're more of an up-down smudge, whereas left handed smudges go to the right (I'm left handed, it sucks). Those smudges just seem too deliberately placed.
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Of course you can...but in modern day technology, most people directly load them to the web and forego the line at the drug store or walmart waiting on and paying them for developing them so they can go home and scan and write on and then upload which I seriously doubt was intended here....that's just straight up BS they'd develop digital pics and then turn around and do all that nonsense to get them on the web when it would've been instant 2 clicks the intended way....

And that wasn't my point....it was supporting the point.

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tinag222 wrote:
Sadly we will never know if the message on the back of Rob's drink picture was there all along and we never managed to flip it over and find it.


All due respect, terrific question, but we'd have known. People had been tearing down the SWFs to look for anything new, and to explain the ticking. We'd have found it, one way or another.

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....and 1-18 site is way too void of "commercialism" to serve as the official "movie" site.


But still subject to updates. It'll come. Smile
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tinag222 wrote:
Of course you can...but in modern day technology, most people directly load them to the web and forego the line at the drug store or walmart waiting on and paying them for developing them so they can go home and scan and write on and then upload which I seriously doubt was intended here....that's just straight up BS they'd develop digital pics and then turn around and do all that nonsense to get them on the web when it would've been instant 2 clicks the intended way....

And that wasn't my point....it was supporting the point.


Kodak, and other companies, have camera/printer set ups where you can print right at home by docking the camera. I'm not trying to mudding the water with this, but it wouldn't be a stretch to think they'd be doing this IF Rob was leaving the next day.
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tinag222 wrote:
Speaking of 1-18....new pic up!!!



Dang, this is all I read and I flew over to 1-18-08 to see.......nothing new. Crying or Very sad
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Zap Rowsdower wrote:
tinag222 wrote:
Speaking of 1-18....new pic up!!!



Dang this is all I read and I flew over to 1-18-08 to see.......nothing new. Crying or Very sad


Ditto, it sucked. Damn people crying wolf. Laughing
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Yes but Rob isn't leaving the next day. He's leaving in January. It's August. Site's been up since before July. Photos added in July about an event that's not happened yet....so is this In Game or OOG?

If it's OOG, they're not in control. They're scrambling to adjust to what we're doing or not doing...which is bad and one oversight can cream this whole thing into the ground as well as disintegrate interest in the movie. Abrams isn't a noob to this, he's been here before, been neck deep in them...so whoever the "camp" is, it's just a little much of a stretch to think they got all this online months ago waiting on somebody to show up - hence the trackers - yet aren't ready? If this was supposed to be launched later with the movie, no reason on the planet to put it online, to publish it at all in its sorely unfinished state and take that sort of risk it wouldn't be smoked out in 24 hours.

If it's IG, there is a big question mark on the *role* of this website created NOW and why and how it's showing photos timestamped in the future. What points to it being IG is the fact of the MS blogs...and who is behind the camera. Somebody's camera took these photos (IG sense, not meta)...several references to beaming into the future...

*think about it* from the IG perspective and of someone who's not heard of the movie and maybe stumbling over 1-18 site....the only possible place they'd go is ms....but before then they'd become clear that the timestamps are referring to something in the future. They head to the ms page, or find it, and check out the friends and read references or comments about being able to go into the future...and some of the other comments that at face value seem arbitrary but very probably are not. What trail would you be following? IG. Not OOG...

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Trout me for the wolf cry. I apologize....but it got up in me.

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tinag222 wrote:
Yes but Rob isn't leaving the next day. He's leaving in January. It's August. Site's been up since before July. Photos added in July about an event that's not happened yet....so is this In Game or OOG?

If it's OOG, they're not in control. They're scrambling to adjust to what we're doing or not doing...which is bad and one oversight can cream this whole thing into the ground as well as disintegrate interest in the movie. Abrams isn't a noob to this, he's been here before, been neck deep in them...so whoever the "camp" is, it's just a little much of a stretch to think they got all this online months ago waiting on somebody to show up - hence the trackers - yet aren't ready? If this was supposed to be launched later with the movie, no reason on the planet to put it online, to publish it at all in its sorely unfinished state and take that sort of risk it wouldn't be smoked out in 24 hours.

If it's IG, there is a big question mark on the *role* of this website created NOW and why and how it's showing photos timestamped in the future. What points to it being IG is the fact of the MS blogs...and who is behind the camera. Somebody's camera took these photos (IG sense, not meta)...several references to beaming into the future...

*think about it* from the IG perspective and of someone who's not heard of the movie and maybe stumbling over 1-18 site....the only possible place they'd go is ms....but before then they'd become clear that the timestamps are referring to something in the future. They head to the ms page, or find it, and check out the friends and read references or comments about being able to go into the future...and some of the other comments that at face value seem arbitrary but very probably are not. What trail would you be following? IG. Not OOG...


I haven't spent much time on the MS pages, and haven't read the blogs.

I wouldn't run to MS with a fictional name, I'm new to this ARG business, I'd hit Google. Laughing Of course, now that'd lead me to MS. MS is an after thought , way after, to me. I rarely check mine.
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1-18-08 IG or OOG?
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tinag222 wrote:
I got to thinking about the function of 1-18 site...from an IG standpoint. We've all really dealt with it as an out of game photo album...but if that was truly its purpose, there would be no way this early to have discovered slusho at all - that came from a sharp eye on the trailer video.


I'm not so sure that Slusho was found through the trailer itself. I did a search for "Slusho" in the 1-18-08/Cloverfield forums herein. The first mention I found was on page 13 of the now-infamous "megathread" (that since has grown to 332 pages and nearly 5,000 posts). That reference, posted on the evening of July 6th, was based on sightings in the LA area of location shooting signs that contained a donut and the reference to "Slusho." I think, but currently can not prove, that the slusho.jp site was discovered before the shirt was spotted in the trailer.

Be that as it may, I think it now should be clear that the 1-18-08 site most certainly is IG.

tinag222 wrote:
.... the clue that would lead to the character blogs comes from pic 5 itself, not necessarily the names but that first comment by Jamie about spreading the pic of her hotness far and wide....clearly and obviously a nod to myspace (for those familiar with it that is)...


Agreed, but the fact that her first and last names both were provided is more likely what led directly to the discovery of her MySpace page, and eventually the others. Either way, those are the kind of easter eggs that we should be watching for. I'm fairly sure there are more legitimate IG surprises to come at the 1-18-08 site!

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Point taken - but it could've been a shot in the dark. There was already a thread or post posted awhile ago where people were going to see if they could find anything on myspace but had little to work with, and there was something up about miss you rob or something but was OOG.

From an IG perspective, not an OOG one, the clue to myspace is in the whore train line. If you're not familiar with ms, or don't mess with it much, it would sail over your head same way slusho would during the trailer and did, actually, in the theater....if you weren't familiar with Alias. The slusho trail was found when we got access to the high def trailer and could slow it down frame by frame and pick through it but the fact remains that it was not a hidden clue...it was visible on the shirt in plain sight but not directly focused on like CLUE CLUE. It was an incidental.

Basically left up to be found by those who'd recognize "slusho" at all.


That's the same thing with the thing Jamie writes - the line use this photo to send a message of my hotness far and wide - is something that's been a typical myspace "comment" for just those sorts of "attention girlies" (i was nice about it this time)...I've seen it dozens of times on myspace and caught it right off but I came in late on it, the ms pages had been found anyway. Had they not been, I'd have at least pointed out the nod to myspace whore train. If you browse through various profiles you'll inevitably come across that line or a slight variation of it (i.e. person starts out like they're bitching you out because of their hotness not being passed far and wide, etc). Given that line that comes from myspace and the introduction of names it would not be at all difficult to root out the myspace pages in this manner.

It was luck of the draw just going off names and "trying" myspace....it could've been tag or one of the others, blogger even...something else was there specific to myspace is what I'm pointing at.

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tinag222 wrote:
Point taken - but it could've been a shot in the dark. There was already a thread or post posted awhile ago where people were going to see if they could find anything on myspace but had little to work with, and there was something up about miss you rob or something but was OOG.

From an IG perspective, not an OOG one, the clue to myspace is in the whore train line. If you're not familiar with ms, or don't mess with it much, it would sail over your head same way slusho would during the trailer and did, actually, in the theater....if you weren't familiar with Alias. The slusho trail was found when we got access to the high def trailer and could slow it down frame by frame and pick through it but the fact remains that it was not a hidden clue...it was visible on the shirt in plain sight but not directly focused on like CLUE CLUE. It was an incidental.

Basically left up to be found by those who'd recognize "slusho" at all.


That's the same thing with the thing Jamie writes - the line use this photo to send a message of my hotness far and wide - is something that's been a typical myspace "comment" for just those sorts of "attention girlies" (i was nice about it this time)...I've seen it dozens of times on myspace and caught it right off but I came in late on it, the ms pages had been found anyway. Had they not been, I'd have at least pointed out the nod to myspace whore train. If you browse through various profiles you'll inevitably come across that line or a slight variation of it (i.e. person starts out like they're bitching you out because of their hotness not being passed far and wide, etc). Given that line that comes from myspace and the introduction of names it would not be at all difficult to root out the myspace pages in this manner.

It was luck of the draw just going off names and "trying" myspace....it could've been tag or one of the others, blogger even...something else was there specific to myspace is what I'm pointing at.


eh, I guess the MS connection just went over my head because I don't troll MS pages or hang out with attention whore girlies.
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a little help...

My brother told me that he saw a photobucket link to a picture of rob, jj and lily i think smiling and in front of a disaster... i can't find that link so help please...

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