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[QUESTION] What 3 Favors to ask of Mithras?
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konamouse
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Maybe we are just reading too much into this.
A ghod can bring back someone to the land of the living, can right the wrongs that an evil megalomaniac has done. Can move mountains. I don't see why we need to ask Mithras to give Jean Moulin a statue. Creating a statue is something any mortal can acheive.

I still believe that Barney deserves something better. And he really helped us this time, alot.

And Addison. Whether brought back alive (we never did get confirmation that his mortal body was dead, and Happy requested that he come stay with her after he is out from the inbetween) or dead (then he can reunite with his family), I'd like him to be happy. But if his mortal body is dead, then I go back to my original request that he is allowed to find his family in the great beyond and be reunited with them.

If the Eidolon hadn't offered a false allegience to Mithras after the death of Mr AJ, Timothy & Patricia would have probably stayed good friends (or even more). Peeps would have been a content soul with his family. Maybe Higgs would have found a job. Not sure how Trinket would be doing, but now she'll have closure (even though her parents might not believe it). Dwin will have his mother back (and maybe she will tell us the truth of his parentage, cause we now know he is related to Mr AJ in some manner). The Eidolon must be punished for lying to Mithras. And even if someone else opens the portal in room 21 in the future, Mr AJ can never get out. He must serve Mithras forever.

We have an opportunity here. I'd like to help our friends in ways that mortals cannot. Let's see what they ask for.

[META] I really don't think the PM is going to go all X-files or Monkey Paw on us, at least I hope not. Maybe this is how we get our happy ending and lay our universe to rest?[/META]

Edit to add:
Happy posted in her LJ this morning her answer to our question.
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WHAT I WOULD ASK FROM MITHRAS...
Hey Sammeeeees!!!

I know it is risky, but I promise not to read anything from Mr. Fangs! I wanted to answer this question from Anonymous about what to ask from Mithras. I wish... This is really hard. I would like Addison to come back, but only if his family can come back with him. I don't think Addison will ever be happy without them. Of course, I want Higgs back and would like for him to find some happiness in life. Oh! I know! Please bring Barney back to Betty! Can Mithras do that? Maybe he could find another body for Barney or something? Like somebody who is about to die? Like that movie with Warren (so handsome in "Reds" he makes me melt) Beatty... "Heaven Can Wait". Can Mithras do something like that? Betty misses him so much. I know she's even considered going over to the dark side to be with him. Oh! Patrica Moore! If this Eidolon killed her, can we get her back for Dwin? What do you guys think?

We cannot fail!!!

I'm still Happy Smile

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konamouse wrote:
Maybe we are just reading too much into this.
A ghod can bring back someone to the land of the living, can right the wrongs that an evil megalomaniac has done. Can move mountains. I don't see why we need to ask Mithras to give Jean Moulin a statue. Creating a statue is something any mortal can acheive.

We have an opportunity here. I'd like to help our friends in ways that mortals cannot. Let's see what they ask for.


I agree, and was going to say the same. This is here as an opportunity to tie up some loose ends and make things a little more happy. Smile

I don't see a reason to pass it by. The only thing I'm concerned about is if we should be trying to limit it to returning three people (if we did one per favour), or if we can make the blanket statements, "Return all from the dead that were killed by Mr Alan Johnson" to include many... but will that be considered greedy? Because then we end up with three possibly very powerful wishes. But as has been said, maybe we should be thinking in grand style for asking a god.

I guess it's hard not to read into that part either. Laughing

Can we possibly ask some of them what they desire before we do this? See if Addison wants to move on and find peace, be returned from the dead, or only returned if it's with his family. If he just wants to move on, won't he be able to do so on his own?

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konamouse wrote:
[META] I really don't think the PM is going to go all X-files or Monkey Paw on us, at least I hope not. Maybe this is how we get our happy ending and lay our universe to rest?[/META]


Of course this is the Sammeeeeeverse where everything has a happy ending, so of course there won't be any adverse consequences to our actions, no Xfiles, no Monkey' Paw. So ask/wish away. I just disagree with bringing the dead back to life. (Mithras isn't the only god around) I guess we'll politely agree, to disagree.

Btw, the Jean Moulin statue remark was a joke. I know it's hard to read humor/sarcasm into a comment, I should have added a smile. My bad. Embarassed I didn't add smiles to the Sammeeeeeverse comment, so read it as you will, sarcastic or serious. Smile
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enaxor wrote:
Btw, the Jean Moulin statue remark was a joke. I know it's hard to read humor/sarcasm into a comment, I should have added a smile. My bad. Embarassed I didn't add smiles to the Sammeeeeeverse comment, so read it as you will, sarcastic or serious. Smile


{{{enaxor}}} (hugz) Cool

I agree about the "bringing back to life" thing as being potentially awkward. That could be hard to explain to the person being brought back....ugh, "you were dead and now you are alive"? I think that is up to the individual (i.e. Addison, does he want his family reincarnated or just to be with them in the afterlife, I'm now leaning towards the latter).

We need to hear what DoEP thinks - before we tell Betty what has been REALLY going on (i.e. that this has been Barney's soul the whole time). Does Happy really think she is as lost without him as Addison was without his family? I think she has moved on enough in her life that maybe her emotional ties to Barney are not as intertwined as was Addison's. Would Barney's reincarnation be beneficial? I'm not so sure. We need the DoEP to find his way to the hatch and tell us what he wants (drizjr, he has an attachment to you, can you tell him to go to the hatch and talk to October???)

Higgs just needs to get some professional psychological help - he had a rough childhood and needs some way to focus his intelligence in a postive manner (without the alcohol). Maybe these few months of sobriety in the nave will have helped. Of course I'll offer to be his penpal after he gets out Wink

Looking more into what Happy posted: Dwin needs his new family intact. That is a favor I could really sink my teeth into. Can we put that on the potential list?

Edit to add: I just took a look over at the hatch. Addison wants to follow Dick White. He wants to look for his family.
Addison wrote:
October, I have been thinking about your
offer all night. I feel like I'm being selfish, but I must ask.
Could you please ask Mithras to send
myself and Dick White into the forevermore?
Returning to mortal life would only fill my soul
with more years of missing my wife and children.
If I could get to the forevermore, maybe I could
find them. And Dick White is such a kind and good
man, I hate to think of him wandering forever.


Ben wrote:
This is Ben. I agree with Addison. Ask to send he
and Dick White into the forevermore. That's my vote.

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According to this email reply,The Dog of El Portal wants nothing more than to be unchained, and for Betty to be told nothing.

I sent Betty an email asking about her greatest wish, without giving anything away.

*****
kona wrote:
I think she has moved on enough in her life that maybe her emotional ties to Barney are not as intertwined as was Addison's.

I think that Betty is very effected by Barney's absence. Her myspace has been dark since day one. She commented on that sad looking avatar early on..
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my new avatar is a painting by this cool artist named Luci Gorell Barnes. this painting really says so much about where i am these days... "missing you". happy birthday to me.
Her song is "Tiptoe Suicidal" for goodness sake.
I'm not sure of how she first got involved with all "the secret sits" and "we cannot fail" messages, but it seems to me that Betty was the first to discover the Eidolon, and so, the catalyst for everything that has gone on since.
I'll wait to hear her response, but if she doesn't, then I'd respect the wishes of Barney, and let Mithras decide if love conquers all.

My revised list:
1- Unchain the Dog of El Portal who serves the evil Eidolon.
2- Send Dick White and Addison to the forever after.
3- Let truth and light prevail. Wink

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How do these sound?

Taking what we have so far....

1. Allow Dick White, Addison, Tutu, Dr Kinder to leave the inbetween and find peace in the forever after.
2. Release Barney (the Dog of El Portal) and allow him to find peace in the forever after.
3. Chain up the lying Eidolon to suffer under the nave forever, allowing the truth & light of Mithras to prevail.
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But what about Patricia?
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Can't forget about Timothy Mann, either. His whereabouts are unknown now, too.

Protean's concern is the same as mine...Could we word it that "all whose souls have been permanently released from their mortal bodies"...This makes them all one group (where one group = one wish) rather than listing individuals, which might be considered one person = one wish.

And Re. Barney: Once Mithras learns that he granted the DoEP to a false worshipper, wouldn't he release Barney on his own??? I would think that we wouldn't have to *ask* for that, as Mithras, as the god of truth and light, would want to make things right where he made a mistake.


OR...As an alternative...we could always put it back on Mithras...have just ONE favor to ask, and let that be that Mithras do what he thinks is right to set things back to the way they should be. It's risky, but I think we'd ultimately win in this situation, because Mithras wouldn't let anyone who was true to him suffer.

We could just explain to Mithras what was set wrong by AJ and the evil Eidolon, and then ask him to set things right...tell him that we trust that he knows what is the right thing to do...
Thoughts???

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Re: How do these sound?

konamouse wrote:
Taking what we have so far....

1. Allow Dick White, Addison, Tutu, Dr Kinder to leave the inbetween and find peace in the forever after.
2. Release Barney (the Dog of El Portal) and allow him to find peace in the forever after.
3. Chain up the lying Eidolon to suffer under the nave forever, allowing the truth & light of Mithras to prevail.


We found Timothy, he's crying in the inbetween. Still no word of Patricia.

1. Allow those innocents, murdered by Mr Alan Johnson or the Eidolon, who's mortal bodies are no longer with us, leave the inbetween and find peace in the forever after.
(this would also include Barney, and Patricia if she is dead - which would really suck).
2. Chain up the lying Eidolon to suffer under the nave forever.
3. Any favor you wish of us to help keep the truth & light of Mithras burning in our hearts forever.
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Quote:
We could just explain to Mithras what was set wrong by AJ and the evil Eidolon, and then ask him to set things right...tell him that we trust that he knows what is the right thing to do...
Thoughts???


I like this idea Lacey. If Patricia is dead then asking that all those who lost their mortal bodies be sent to the forevermore means Dwin will not get his mom back and I think he needs his mom.

So I would trust Mithras to do the right things, to make everything right again.
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[UPDATE] The InBetween
I've moved outside of the hatch to wait for the moment

(I really hope the moment happens Wednesday morning, not Wednesday night, 'cause I don't get off work until 7 p.m. CDT!! :/)



October wrote:
~*Mildred, I will ask the Sammeeeees if they can also find a way to help Timothy Man. Friends, I am going to the other side of the hatch now, to wait for the signal. Not long now. Look below the hatch for my messages from here on out. I will only be on the other side. I won't be far, and we will still be able to hear each others' voices. Just a little while longer.*~


And then, below the picture of the hatch (outside the hatch):

October wrote:
~*I will wait here by the hatch until it is time for us to go.*~


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My 3 would be;

1) Allow Dick White, Addison, Tutu, Dr Kinder and Barney to find peace in the forever after.
2) Keep Dwin's family intact.
3) Force the lying Eidolon to suffer for eternity.
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No one has mentioned "World Peace" yet Laughing

Or for the third wish we could ask for another 3 wishes Cool

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Quote:
1) Allow Dick White, Addison, Tutu, Dr Kinder and Barney to find peace in the forever after.
2) Keep Dwin's family intact.
3) Force the lying Eidolon to suffer for eternity.


This is sounding pretty good so far. Driz is worried that MrAJ might be counted as a member of Dwin's family [and I'm convinced there is blood shared - in fact, Mr AJ might be Kevin's biological father (shudder)]. October suggested modification of #3 so that Mithras decides on the punishment, not us.

1) Allow all those deserving souls (innocents who's mortal bodies were killed by Mr Alan Johnson) past from the inbetween into the forever after.
2) Keep Patricia Moore and Dwin together as a proper family in the real world.
3) Make sure the lying Ediolon is properly punished (as you see fit) and kept from harming anyone ever again.

We have a few more hours. I figure I'd post the favors on the page early Wed morning. I get up around 6am PST.

Edit to add: Here is what I posted.
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We come in truth & light, and ask our first favor: Please allow all those deserving souls (innocents who's mortal bodies were killed by Mr Alan Johnson) past from the inbetween into the forever after (this includes Dick White, Addison, Tutu, Dr Kinder, and the breaking of the chain that holds Barney to the false pater).

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We come in truth & light, and ask for our second favor: Please reunite Patricia Moore and Dwin together and allow them to live as a proper family in the real world.

Quote:
We come in truth & light, and ask for our last favor: That you make sure the lying Ediolon is properly punished (in a manner as you see fit) and kept from harming anyone ever again.

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