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tmerch
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 		I've got a decent thread going with Lil. She responded to my last message at noon today, but I can't check it until I get home this evening. Add it to the list of things I hate about MySpace - it's blocked at work! Anyway, that makes 3 e-mails from me and 3 responses from her. Beth wrote me back once, and the others have read my messages, but with no response.

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Adam706
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 		Re: Odette Yustman as Beth?
cgsheldon wrote:
Melampus wrote:
The imdb cast list for the Untitled J.J. Abrams Project doesn't list the whole cast, so maybe this is Beth?


The IMDB cast list is very inaccurate - they do list Odette, they just misspelled her name as Odet Jasmin. Also, Michael Stahl-David, is playing Rob, not Mike Vogel. Vogel is JJ Hawkins. Lizzy Caplan is playing LenaDia. As far as I'm aware we do not yet know the identities of the other actors.

The Wikipedia Cloverfield entry has a far more accurate cast list IMHO.


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Melampus
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tmerch wrote:
I've got a decent thread going with Lil. She responded to my last message at noon today, but I can't check it until I get home this evening. Add it to the list of things I hate about MySpace - it's blocked at work! Anyway, that makes 3 e-mails from me and 3 responses from her. Beth wrote me back once, and the others have read my messages, but with no response.


Cool! I managed to get a thread going, if you can call it that, w/both Rob and Beth. A few days ago, I sent them each different lateral riddles, and they've been playing along - asking me Yes/No questions to try to figure them out. I almost mentioned to Beth, in the last response, that I saw an episode of Monk w/an actress that looked a lot like her, but decided against it - didn't want to risk breaking any 'reality rules.'

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tmerch
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 		Good work, Melampus, that's a great strategy!

Here's the response from Lil - I'd asked how she met her friends, intimating that I was considering a move to NYC:

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Well, its def not hard to meet people. There are over 8million of us in the city! Finding good people that you want to be friends with can be more difficult, but I would say that is the same for wherever you go. I moved her knowing almost no one, and proceeded to make lots of friends through works, going to concerts, poetry readings, and political rallies. Its very easy to find like-minded people in this city if you hang out in the places where like-minded people would hang out (if that makes sense).


What should I ask now? I'm at a loss...there's something in here, but I can't quite pick it out..........

ETA: Over on the megathread they're talking about "feelies" and someone posited that "...the next link in the game might just actually happen in the real world, with 'feelies'." Could this be it? We need to find a place where Lil would be in NYC? Sounds crazy enough to be true. After all, they ARE filming there...

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Melampus
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tmerch wrote:
Good work, Melampus, that's a great strategy!

Here's the response from Lil - I'd asked how she met her friends, intimating that I was considering a move to NYC:

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Well, its def not hard to meet people. There are over 8million of us in the city! Finding good people that you want to be friends with can be more difficult, but I would say that is the same for wherever you go. I moved her knowing almost no one, and proceeded to make lots of friends through works, going to concerts, poetry readings, and political rallies. Its very easy to find like-minded people in this city if you hang out in the places where like-minded people would hang out (if that makes sense).


What should I ask now? I'm at a loss...there's something in here, but I can't quite pick it out..........


Thanks - Rob figured out my lateral riddle, so I congratulated him and asked if he had any riddles for me to solve - we'll see what comes of that, if anything. Beth is still working on hers (it's a diff. one, and harder - she's asked 3 questions so far).

The last line of Lily's quote is interesting. I paused on that sentence because when I was looking for patterns in the myspace pics, the only one that immediately jumped out from Lily's photos was that she is most often pictured in some potentially identifiable (i.e., named), public place. Except for the 2 where she's kissing Hawk (just a parking lot somewhere). The other 5 are taken in places someone might recognize - I know someone on a thread already identified the location of the 'eskimo' picture. I'm assuming the others were taken in NYC, so they might be places people could recognize and identify - that gives us names, which might be relevant in coded clues/puzzles... sometime... somewhere... maybe.

Anyway, point is: I'd suggest asking her what places she likes to go to, or, to avoid any creepy vibe, ask her to recommend some good places where you might find 'like-minded' people, and then describe yourself in terms that are pretty much just like Lily (i.e., describe yourself as being 'like-minded' with Lily, so she'll tell you her spots).

Or, better yet, you could just ask her - in the course of asking what places she'd recommend to you - where she was in her pictures. It would be a normal thing to ask in a question like that. So, you could ask her where some of her pictures were taken (e.g., any of the 3 in bars/restaurants).

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 		Robs lampost riddle...
just a hunch
I emailed Rob about this and I'm awaiting his response.
He has this Quote as his tag line;
"That sounds like something a lampost could do"
(He did also misspell lampost {supposed to be lamppost} with two P's...

OMG I just had a thought.... hmmm not putting in one of the needed double letters in the word (I know, different thread, but stream of consciousness) I mean common, who can't spell lamppost? Doesn't everyone get the red underline thingy when they misspell words? perhaps it's a
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CLUE





Anywho, here's my letter to the aforementioned Rob.

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Bismillah

Hey Rob,
I thought about your quote and linked it to your #4 person to meet, Nicola Tesla and I want to know if I am remotely on.




So, researchers at MIT have shown that it's possible to wirelessly power a 60-watt light bulb sitting about two meters away from a power source. Using a remarkably simple setup…they have demonstrated, for the first time, that it is feasible to efficiently send that much power over such a distance.


Wireless power transfer is an idea that's more than 100 years old. In the 1890s, physicist and electrical engineer Nikola Tesla proposed beaming electricity through the air.


The (MIT) team has minimized (safety issues) by making sure that the power is mainly in the form of a magnetic field, a form of energy to which the body is almost entirely insensitive.- a web site.


So am I right? About the wireless power?

Tesla understood that the cosmos is in resonance. Everything that exists possesses a unique vibratory rate which resonates with the heart of the cosmos.

"The present is theirs. The future, for which I really worked, is mine." - N.T.

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We'll see what he sends back to me,It has already been marked as 'read'.



Peace&Blessings

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 		Lateral riddles still
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Cool! I managed to get a thread going, if you can call it that, w/both Rob and Beth. A few days ago, I sent them each different lateral riddles, and they've been playing along - asking me Yes/No questions to try to figure them out. I almost mentioned to Beth, in the last response, that I saw an episode of Monk w/an actress that looked a lot like her, but decided against it - didn't want to risk breaking any 'reality rules.'


This is interesting.. I was out of town for the weekend, but when I got back I had a 2nd response from Beth about lateral riddles too, basically inviting me to make one up. Guess I'll have to come up with one - anyone have any good ideas? Curious that both of them seem to like to respond on this topic.

I'm also sort of curious how they would react if we all asked them the same lateral riddle... would their responses vary? Would they acknoweldge that they're playing the same game with someone else, or just play along? Probably not too relevant to finding clues or anything, but would be interesting to find out.

Here's the conversation:

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: jojo
Date: Aug 3, 2007 1:16 PM
Hey Beth --
Your riddle that you asked Rob about... is the man crying because he is sad?

From: Beth
Date: Aug 3, 2007 10:56 AM
Rob actually knew the answer... he posted it. His wife was on life support, and there was a power outage.

From: jojo
Date: Aug 3, 2007 2:26 PM
Sorry, I wasn't sure if that was the right answer or not - thanks for the heads up. Know of any other good lateral riddles? Or should I come up with one for you? Do your myspace friends play these riddles too, or is this just something you and Rob do?
By the way, what's up with you and Rob??? Looks like there's a little somethin' going on there!! Wink

From: Beth
Date: Aug 6, 2007 2:39 PM

Yeah! Give me a lateral riddle, I'll try to figure it out.

There's nothing up with Rob and I... we're friends.

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 		The Importance of Being Innocuous
Still thinking about tmerch's question - about what to ask Lily... and, the fact that there's a lot of time before the movie opens, so the myspace messages might be how this 'game' will develop for the next few weeks/months...

jojo had the great idea, back on page 39 of this thread, that the myspace messaging interaction could be itself a form of 'lateral riddle' - the idea was to ask them yes/no questions about slusho, etc. But, now I'm thinking that if the myspace messages are a kind of 'lateral riddle', the rule isn't that you can only ask yes/no questions, but that you can only ask questions that might realistically get answered by a stranger on myspace.

So, the trick to these myspace pages (assuming there's anything to be gleaned from asking them questions at all) might be to simply keep the conversation totally innocuous, in order to sustain it, but to STEER it in a way that allows you to ask something point-black, b/c it would make sense for a stranger on myspace to answer that particular question, at that point in the conversation, i.e., it wouldn't break the 'reality' of the game.

For example, I asked Rob if he had any riddles for me; and, he might answer (albeit, prob. w/just another lateral riddle) because it made sense to ask that, once he had solved the one I posed to him. A better example is that tmerch can now ask Lily - in a roundabout way - where some of her pictures were taken, because it makes sense to ask that, at this point in their conversation.

If this is correct, then the strategy would be to plan ahead in our questions; the first few should be just to get some conversational ball rolling; and then, look for an opportunity to ask a more pertinent, but still innocuous! (in context), question. In other words, pretend that the rule is to never let on (to the myspace seven) that you know anything about them, or that this is all just a game. Since they are treating this as real and 'live,' every question & answer should be one that could have just naturally come up in conversation (on myspace).

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 		Jamie went to Coachella in 2006
In looking through Jamie's photos I noticed something that I had seen before... the Motorola ice cream cart. It's from the Motorola/DKNY guest house at Coachella in 2006. The house is a super private, invite only type deal. Not that it means anything but it could be a possible talking point to try to squeeze more info/clues out of her.

Jamie's photo:
http://a41.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/71/l_c5215ee29c3f1f97bf2c34004f99ab10.jpg

Link to event press with photo of the cart:
http://www.apparelnews.net/Archive4/050506/News/newsB.html
it also kind of looks like her under the umbrella too.

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CJAnderson
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 		Just made a Myspace(try to avoid that but...) i'll send them each freind requests stuff so...

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Melampus
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 		Re: Lateral riddles still
jojo wrote:
I'm also sort of curious how they would react if we all asked them the same lateral riddle... would their responses vary? Would they acknowledge that they're playing the same game with someone else, or just play along? Probably not too relevant to finding clues or anything, but would be interesting to find out.


That's a good idea - at the very least, we could learn something of their response-behavior (for lack of a better term).

The riddle I posed to Rob, and that he solved in 3 questions (meaning he had to know it already) was this: "A man walks into a bar and asks the bartender for glass of water. The bartender pulls a gun on him. Why?"

And, the answer is....

... do you want me to just tell you, or do you want to guess it? Wink

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 		plz tell

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 		Lateral Riddles ...
Tastes like Albatross
Hello everybody. I don't really have all that much to contribute, but I do have a raport starting with Rob. I sent him a message asking him to help me with a lateral riddle my prof. gave me ... I know the answer, but I thought that I might be able to guide the conversation if I get one going. Anyway, his reply to me was
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"That one is classic, my personal fav. I'm not gonna give you the answer, though, that's no fun. You need to ask 'yes' or 'no' questions in lateral riddles. You typically can't get the answer just from the clue. There's a whole long story behind the answer to that one."
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I don't know if the "My Personal Fave" comment might be telling, but the riddle I presented was A man goes into a restaurant, orders albatross, eats one bite, and kills himself. .

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In the end it turns out that the man had crashed on a desert Island with his wife and a friend. His wife died soon after; a few weeks later the man and friend had exhausted their food supplies, so the friend goes off into the woods and returns with some "albatross meat". Now, zoom forward to the present, the man orders albatross at the resteraunt because it helps him remember his wife in a bittersweet way ... but the albatross tastes nothing like the food he had on the island - he kills himself as soon as he realizes the awful truth


Anyway, I thought it was interesting, especially since this "favorite" lateral riddle reminds me of The Life of Pi (which is a book listed on Hud's Myspace). I don't know, maybe this is just a morbid group of friends.

Anway, aside from that, exactly what kind of questions do you think I should ask? I mean, I'd hate to break the conversation by asking a bunch of dumb questions ... especially if it's obvious that I'm trying to guide the conversation.

And, as a final side note, do you think that his commnet "You typically can't get the answer just from the clue. There's a whole long story behind the answer to that one" might mean something, or am I just reading too far into it? I mean, it could just be a coincidence ... but it seems rather befitting of this possible ARG, doesn't it?

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Melampus
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CJAnderson wrote:
plz tell


Ok, the answer to the lateral riddle about the guy asking the bartender for a glass of water and the bartender pulling a gun is:

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The man was asking for water because he had the hiccups; the bartender pulled a gun to scare the hiccups away.


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 		Very interesting direction our main dude is taking here. This almost could be considered the helping hand from "above" - on how we're supposed to work out the whole "puzzle" slash "game" here at all.

Thinking in these terms reorients how we would go about finding a solution, so since the base is that you cannot work it out based solely off the clues, you have to infer the gaps' content and work out the solution. It may well just be one of those "incidentals" but then again, those incidentals have yielded the most movement in the right direction.

So why not look again at Slusho's website with the animal characters, such as fish thinking cheese and donkey thinking blue mitt and consider it as, indeed, a lateral thinking puzzle itself?

Found this too...it might be helpful in making an adjustment to our clue solving techniques that may well be out of the ARG box for something new and fresh for you!

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http://www.bellaonline.com/ArticlesP/art39652.asp


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