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mazbo
Boot

Joined: 28 Jul 2007
Posts: 19

clue 29
help

can sum1 just give the url to the piece location!
its doing my head in, i just cant find it!

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:51 pm

Phari
Veteran

Joined: 25 Jul 2007
Posts: 106
Location: Sunny Sussex UK

found the piece
thanks to the lovely person who helped me out

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:56 pm

RedHatty
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Joined: 08 May 2006
Posts: 1428
Location: x��Jy��VJvk

Clue 31
is up

and for those having problems, the last 2 letters & the first 2 are the same, just ask the Kiwi

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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:15 pm

LawyerActually
Guest

Re: Email for clue 31

IRC1968 wrote:

Criticism and review:

Fair dealing for criticism and review is permitted under the new law only if it is accompanied by sufficient acknowledgement and the work is made available to the public.

This means if granted permission, you may use materials for analysis and review - it does NOT give you the right to reproduce anything from any business without express permission FIRST... After the permission has been given for you to reproduce the work, then the above comes into play, NOT BEFORE...

So you're wrong (again!!! IRC1968! Dear, dear not a good month is it?!?).

GJ are perfectly within their rights ( as is evident by the number of sites that they have successfully had pulled down ), to protect their intellectual property - that extends to communications in forums, since the term you use 'not for profit' is actually ill-conceived - you ARE attempting to profit - not monetarily, but in other ways - social standing being one example... Profit can equal 'advantage' or 'benefit' not just extra $$$

The 'copying' of materials from their website (see bottom of every page, it says 'copyright') & from any direct communications from them is not allowed without express permission, you should be fully aware of that...

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

As should SpaceBass - seeing as he's an intern at a small legal practise!
What he's doing letting you publish this stuff is beyond me... There's something to speculate about IRC1968 ;P

Have a little look into the statutes of various countries (UK, USA, etc) and you will see that copyright law extends to all these things, more recently that includes emails too - I'm surprised they haven't come after you yet, since you are in fact in breach of copyright - as are unfiction for hosting said copied articles...

I'd think twice myself, before posting even a suggestion of what you have done so explicitly here IRC1968... Very dangerous ground that you tread, my friend...

Another thing I've noticed:

You really seem to be quite passionate about slating Golden Jigsaw, not a week seems to go by without a new rant about something you clearly know a little about, but evidently not enough to be so vocal.

I'm commenting because I feel someone ought to, since this forum does have a tendency to be rather partisan in the favor of negative posts against GJ.

I get the feeling that there is a lot of bad feeling and misinterpretation of the facts throughout this thread thanks to a few misguided and kneejerk comments from posters who seem to suffer from the 'I'm angry & annoyed that I didn't have the idea so I'm going to rubbish it so that people think I'm an authority' syndrome.

You have a seemingly perverse mission to try and make people who read this forum believe the misinformation you post about everything GJ do for the game.

It appears that you have an overwhelming desire to be perceived as 'The Daddy' of the internet, but you're not & that might come as a surprise, but I'm afraid you don't actually appear to know 'jack' in most cases, although I'm sure you mean well some of the time.

Aside from being wrong, what exactly do you think you are offering of benefit by attempting to put a negative slant on their every day actions..?

Why is that? Just curious...

Don't get me wrong here moderators, I have no personal crusade against IRC1968, I just feel someone ought to counter his constant stream of abuse in order to put perspective on it, since some folk here might actually not know any wiser and assume he's got a point.

And quoting 'PayPalSucks.com' as a comparitive reference - come on, that's just ridiculous, not even close to being relevant.

Here's a much more accurate quote from a friend and mentor: If you don't like it, don't play it. If you try and act too big, you'll only end up getting played.

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:25 pm

IRC1968
Boot

Joined: 24 Jul 2007
Posts: 37

Re: Email for clue 31

LawyerActually wrote:

IRC1968 wrote:

Criticism and review:

Fair dealing for criticism and review is permitted under the new law only if it is accompanied by sufficient acknowledgement and the work is made available to the public.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

As should SpaceBass - seeing as he's an intern at a small legal practise!
What he's doing letting you publish this stuff is beyond me... There's something to speculate about IRC1968 ;P

You fool, the law does NOT state that it is only if the owner gives permission it is very clear that if it is used for the purpose of criticism or learning then as long as credit is given then it can be used in extract form. I think in fact the law goes as far as to cover the use of up to 80% of the original without breaking copyright. But I might be wrong on that as I am not a wonderful lawyer.

It would occur to me though that at some point in the past somebody had attempted to copyright the jigsaw concept and the treasure hunt concept and unless GJ is breaking these laws they where not successful in getting them copyrighted so for them to start shouting copyright theft is a little pathetic the only copyright the have is for their logo, their puzzle pieces and if stretched to the wording on their web site, so providing you do not post the images or the wording word for word in its entirety then copyright law is not being breached.

An address on the internet written as a URL is not and can not be protected by copyright only the content you place on it so legally you can post any URL you want without breaking any law in any land. If you want to prove me wrong on that then please feel free to state which court and what case set that as precedence.

I can just imagine the world you live in where if anybody wants to criticize a product or a statement they first have to seek permission from the owner in order to do so, hmmmm I don't think there would be many giving permission would there and under your strange interpretation of the law there would be no free speech and no consumer reviews unless they preached how good the product was, hmmm wakey wakey Mr wannabe lawyer the world has moved on from that draconian way of thinking.

As for any perverse slating I give out it is based on customer service and treatment of players and to be frank although you will not agree the service given is far from perfect, the rules change without notice, the game plan changes without notice and watch my words the prize fund will change to as they pull the plug on it and the winner gets a pair of speakers instead of the promised $1,000,000.00

As far as this forum goes it's practice and attitude seemed to be based on freedom of speech and helpfulness which I feel is something you need to learn and it may come as news to you but your facts are based on something grandpar might have said many years ago and your lack of personal crusade against me or so you put it seems to be quite the opposite as it seems you love to create a new ID to reply to my posts as often as you can. If you don't like what I type then don't read it and by replying t it all you are actually doing is highlighting it and opening peoples thoughts to who you might really be with such a positive attitude to the GJ, hmmmmmm now that's something to speculate about isn't it.

The GJ has happily BANNED people from playing just for asking for help now if you what to defend that behavior as anywhere near to being acceptable I think you should pop along over to the official forum and spend you time typing about how good they are and how ethical they are to fools that might just believe you.

This forum does not need flames and you will have noticed that I have refrained from insults, that is out of respect to the forum moderators here and because I do not want to get in to trouble for insulting or swearing at a minor.

Happy times to you now run along.

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:23 pm

vpisteve
Asshatministrator

Joined: 30 Sep 2002
Posts: 2441
Location: 1987

Re: Email for clue 31

LawyerActually wrote:

As should SpaceBass - seeing as he's an intern at a small legal practise!

Hmm, I don't see that anywhere on SpaceBass's profile. How did you come about this information, exactly?

Also, you might want to refer to the Unfiction TOS there, especially the parts about posts remaining civil, oh guest poster with the suspicious IP address.

ETA: Do you spell "defense" with an s or a c at the end? Just curious.

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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:10 pm

Palm
Unfictologist

Joined: 06 Jun 2007
Posts: 1360
Location: North of Key West

Re: Email for clue 31
seems to be a problem

vpisteve wrote:

LawyerActually wrote:

As should SpaceBass - seeing as he's an intern at a small legal practise!

....
ETA: Do you spell "defense" with an s or a c at the end? Just curious.

LOL. I noticed the un-registered guest spells practice as "practise", a british spelling, and uses the word "rubbish" which is basically not used in that context in the US. So I am thinking that the "guest" in question is actually a british person who has some kind of stake in the game (the owner or the owner's friend perhaps?), or some british person trying to get people to drop out to enhance their chances of winning a million. A real lawyer would not be anonymous in my opinion; we all know that they have big egos and would want everyone to know who they are. Nevertheless, I still enjoy the muse of it all and like to play, but it hasn't been easy - you would think advertisers would rather have a happy customer than one that has been badgered by the marketing agency.

Ok, that is it; being an adult, I agree with the anonymous poster about one thing and that is we all have a choice - to play or not to play after being badgered. If we think it is bogus, then we can choose not to play; it is up to ourselves if we want to shop and spend money or not - which will have the final say if their venture is successful or not. So good luck whatever. Rolling Eyes

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:10 am

Zaecus
Boot

Joined: 20 Jul 2007
Posts: 58

Re: Email for clue 31
seems to be a problem

Palm wrote:

Ok, that is it; being an adult, I agree with the anonymous poster about one thing and that is we all have a choice - to play or not to play after being badgered. If we think it is bogus, then we can choose not to play; it is up to ourselves if we want to shop and spend money or not - which will have the final say if their venture is successful or not. So good luck whatever. Rolling Eyes

Unfortunately, I'm going to have to disagree. As I have given them no trivial amount of my personal information, I do not have that choice, especially if they are bogus because, then, I can't trust their unsecured word, which is all we have, that deleting my profile will remove my information from any and all future marketing activities they undertake.

Instead, in addition to continuing to play the ever changing minefield of a game they are offering, I must play the 'Are they legit, legal, and trustworthy?' game. Which I hope to be getting some very official and legal help with.

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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:29 am

staceylou
Boot

Joined: 26 Jul 2007
Posts: 21

Clue 31

RedHatty wrote:

and for those having problems, the last 2 letters & the first 2 are the same, just ask the Kiwi

Hi having a few problems here and your clues onfused me even more! Can I get a clue please?!?! xx

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:26 am

staceylou
Boot

Joined: 26 Jul 2007
Posts: 21

In fact I'm now even more confused in finding the piece for clue 30 so if anyone can help me with that too it would be appreciatd!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:33 am

RedHatty
Unfictologist

Joined: 08 May 2006
Posts: 1428
Location: x��Jy��VJvk

stacylou, did you try googling kiwi?

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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:22 am

Palm
Unfictologist

Joined: 06 Jun 2007
Posts: 1360
Location: North of Key West

Re: Email for clue 31
seems to be a problem

Zaecus wrote:

Good point -

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:31 am

staceylou
Boot

Joined: 26 Jul 2007
Posts: 21

Ah ha!

RedHatty wrote:

stacylou, did you try googling kiwi?

Thank you! I just never think of google! Found the sites for the last 3 clues (29,30,31) but no idea on the pieces yet!

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:34 am

awakenshadow
Boot

Joined: 14 Aug 2007
Posts: 28

CLUES

I found clue 31 really quickly, great!! If anyone wants the link pm me, i'll send it to them.

And can someone PLEASE give me the links to the pieces of CLUE 28 and 29. I found both websites but not the pieces.

Thanks

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:46 am

rustybusty
Guest

Re: CLUES

awakenshadow wrote:

I need some help on clue 29 i still can not find it.........

any help greatly appreciated please

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:13 am

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