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waitress#2
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I would like to thank them too, they did an excellent job and it was fun.
*sigh* I wish AO would have let them take over the ARG part of things.

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Zaecus
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Any reliable information is better than no information.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:47 pm
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kolixela
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Wow, good lord, I am getting attacked for posting information I recieved so that everyone can have an update. Seriously folks I post for YOUR benefit not my own, people ask for information and I share it.

I can understand being cautious but there's no reason to repeatedly attack me.

Zaecus wrote:
Any reliable information is better than no information.


PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:51 pm
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It seems to me that NerComm's PMs have been willfully misinterpreting MSL's e-mails, or at least engaging in some serious wishful thinking.

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August 8th, 2007:

We appreciate your enthusiasm however we cannot sanction the use of our material and trademarks outside the scope of our current marketing plan and designs for our characters and settings.

We would be happy to discuss your proposal with you at the end of August however at this moment we cannot proceed.


We took this as a "continue cautiously" response; they're not "sanctioning" us, but they're not flatly stopping us.

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August 14th, 2007:

At this time we cannot endorse your proposal or condone you moving forward with a plan that includes materials, subjects and themes related to the Alpha Omega universe.

We do appreciate your enthusiasm for the Alpha Omega universe.


This, especially the fact that they are not going to condone our actions, meant to us that we can proceed, still cautious to not cross the line and use copyrighted material and images.


What do they think "condone" means? My dictionary says "forgive, pardon, or overlook". Perhaps they've confused it with "condemn".

IANAL, but I would read the second e-mail especially as instructions to stop or face legal action.

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kolixela wrote:
I can understand being cautious but there's no reason to repeatedly attack me.


I am not attacking you. I am referring to the information being unreliable, not you. However, I do not understand your blind support of people you don't know giving you information you can't confirm.

Perhaps, if you weren't so invested in believing things you can't really prove, you wouldn't be so ready to assume a personal attack.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:47 am
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Lurker Underground wrote:
It seems to me that NerComm's PMs have been willfully misinterpreting MSL's e-mails, or at least engaging in some serious wishful thinking.


I agree, but given MSL's, now seemingly false, claim that they sought player input in shaping the world, I might have been guilty of misinterpreting those letters as well.

I'm not a lawyer, either, but if I was going to tell someone that they needed to stop doing something or face legal action, I'd probably have come right out and said the words legal action... I'm pretty sure I would have used the word 'stop' at some point.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:51 am
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I am not exactly sure how my information can be considered unreliable unless you consider the entire ARG and all related material unreliable. I recieved my information DIRECTLY from the puppetmasters, that is Mind Storm Labs 3 main heads. Granted I can not say with certainty that the plans they have will not change but there's little more that can be done to get reliable information related to the game being produced by Mind Storm Labs than to talk to the creators themselves as I did.

I take people correcting others about the validity of MY posts as being an attack against me, it doesn't matter how you want to present it your attacking my credibility by doing so.

What exactly are you wanting? The only information we can "Confirm" is that a company called Mind Storm Labs exists, said company is creating a game called Alpha Omega, and Alpha Omega will be released to the public. So I'm not sure where your going here.

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kolixela wrote:
I can understand being cautious but there's no reason to repeatedly attack me.


I am not attacking you. I am referring to the information being unreliable, not you. However, I do not understand your blind support of people you don't know giving you information you can't confirm.

Perhaps, if you weren't so invested in believing things you can't really prove, you wouldn't be so ready to assume a personal attack.


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nbnewell
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OMG,GIVE IT UP ALREADY!!!!!!

Just wait and see what happens.

All this arguing has gone past irritating.

It is a GAME. Petty name calling and this back and forth only ruins it for the rest.

If it comes back Great! If not it's a shame.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:57 am
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There is a big difference between player input and allowing 1 or 2 people to dictate the actions of a major item in your game world (such as Triton enterprises)

From the information I see they simply asked the creator to desist in using their characters and companies for the necromm site. That seems like quite a valid request to me. Just because you want to make a site doesn't mean you can. You'd never see something like this if AO was a movie and necromm was trying to make an unauthorised sequel.. No one would be saying the company should turn over it's rights to the characters to do that; and it's essentially the same thing.

Zaecus wrote:
Lurker Underground wrote:
It seems to me that NerComm's PMs have been willfully misinterpreting MSL's e-mails, or at least engaging in some serious wishful thinking.


I agree, but given MSL's, now seemingly false, claim that they sought player input in shaping the world, I might have been guilty of misinterpreting those letters as well.

I'm not a lawyer, either, but if I was going to tell someone that they needed to stop doing something or face legal action, I'd probably have come right out and said the words legal action... I'm pretty sure I would have used the word 'stop' at some point.


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Zaecus
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kolixela wrote:
I am not exactly sure how my information can be considered unreliable unless you consider the entire ARG and all related material unreliable.


It's called 'hearsay'.

Who was talking about the ARG? I hate repeating myself.

You're way too invested in trusting people you don't know. I'm done with this.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:03 am
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kolixela
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Instead of comments like this why don't you actually add some substance to your comments.

I am way too invested in trusting that the creators of a game wouldn't blatantly lie about their own creation, it doesn't seem like anything will satisfy you so why do you insist on continuing to post

Zaecus wrote:
kolixela wrote:
I am not exactly sure how my information can be considered unreliable unless you consider the entire ARG and all related material unreliable.


It's called 'hearsay'.

Who was talking about the ARG? I hate repeating myself.

You're way too invested in trusting people you don't know. I'm done with this.


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nbnewell
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kolixela et al. Please give it up. I am tired of this post popping to the top over a petty argument. (I am sure I am not the only ones.)

First of all I couldn't care less how reliable your information is. IF the PMS decide to continue as fan-fic GREAT!

If MSL decides to pick it back up themseves, more power to them.

It is a game. a game I would have liked to continue in but thanks to bickering and nonesense, all of the fun has been sucked out of it.

I don't understand why anyone would value themselves on whether or not someone on some board somewhere found them credible or even that anyone would carry that argument for this long.

Move on.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:12 am
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kolixela
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I, for one, am done.

I just read over the posts on this to see where it was going and your right; there's no reason to continue anything. I only ever intended to pass on comments from the games creators to the players who were interested and I got dragged into a fight over it. I wont continue it any longer.

nbnewell wrote:
kolixela et al. Please give it up. I am tired of this post popping to the top over a petty argument. (I am sure I am not the only ones.)

First of all I couldn't care less how reliable your information is. IF the PMS decide to continue as fan-fic GREAT!

If MSL decides to pick it back up themseves, more power to them.

It is a game. a game I would have liked to continue in but thanks to bickering and nonesense, all of the fun has been sucked out of it.

I don't understand why anyone would value themselves on whether or not someone on some board somewhere found them credible or even that anyone would carry that argument for this long.

Move on.


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