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Cysa
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 		[SPEC] Blog
http://solongrob.blogspot.com/
I've been staring at http://solongrob.blogspot.com/ for the past few hours cause it seemed to real. I compared the post times to to the updates to the other site, seems like it started a little later then the others, but the strange thing is, in the blog character names were mentioned, days before we were able to look at the back of the photos.

If it is infact a fake, they did a good job at guessing character names.


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Friday, July 20, 2007
1-18-08
What up bro? I just found out about when you're going. Man that's quick, I thought we were going to do the ski trip this winter. That really sucks, I mean I guess we can head out for a weekend or something, but I was looking forward to taking the girls. A little advice, take some time off! You can't be married to a job and have a relationship at the same time. If you don't believe me just asks Jamie, she knows! Lets hookup over the weekend and make some plans.


Jamie a somewhat common female name so I'd assume that one would be able to guess it, but

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Saturday, July 21, 2007
My Head Hurts

Hi Mr. Perfect! That's as bubbly as I can be this morning. Partied a little too hard last night and I'm paying the price for it now. Hud thinks I'm an over the top and in need of some rehab. Hell if it weren't for him I wouldn't drink so much. He's my muse and I love him, but Jesus he's such an instigator. Hey I heard about your big promotion… Mr. Executive. How does it fell to be a struggling known now? Just remember when you're rich not to forget us struggling unknowns. Got to go now, love ya, arrivederci.

Posted by Robs Friends at 3:56 PM


Hud is a little more strange

not to mention all the character traits match up to what we have read in their myspace pages. We didn't learn the names till July 27. Seems strange for a hoax site to have such good information before the gamers.

Anyone have any comments?

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 		It links to Warbloid.com at the bottom, isn't that a pretty confirmed gamejack?

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 		Dates Aren't Necessarily True
The dates shown for the posts are just embedded in the HTML source for the page. I wouldn't regard those as accurate indications of when the posts were created.

It just seems like a garden-variety gamejack to me.

Doug

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Cysa
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 		If people want to slap the Game Jack label on it thats fine, but we really need to develop a better proccess for determine whats real and whats not, granted some of the sites before have been pretty obvious fakes, but really all most of us do is look at when it was registered and if it wasn't registered at the same time as slusho and 1-18-08.com then we auto-maticly disqualify them.

I'm sorry but if that is going to be the soul source of all of our discreditations then we aren't really gonna get anywhere, cause I'm sure JJ is going to create plenty more sites for us to investigate. Just because it was created later in the game doesn't mean it could be any less real.

Also the Webloids page is registered to the same people who registered thefuriousmovie.com, so I'm not sure why its being discredited so easy.

I'm not saying this is for sure one way or the other, I just think we should put in some more research before we just ignore everything because the whois info doesn't match to what we think should be the right info.

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Cysa wrote:
I'm not saying this is for sure one way or the other, I just think we should put in some more research before we just ignore everything because the whois info doesn't match to what we think should be the right info.


There's a lot more to it than registration date, but any site can be immediately discredited if it was created BEFORE The 1-18-08 site (like warbloid.com). I think the BIG determining factor of IF a new site is real, will be where the link came from, ie. HOW the site was found.

Most of these fake sites are "found" when the GameJackers themselves post messages in forums like this saying "Have you guys seen this site...I think it related...yada yada yada". There's so many trolls out there at this point, I think any new links will have to come from an in-game source.

Think of how the Slusho site was found (t-shirt in the trailer) or how the myspace pages were found (back of 1-18-08 photos) - something like that.

Cysa wrote:
Also the Webloids page is registered to the same people who registered thefuriousmovie.com


It's called cybersquatting. Gamejackers register domain names that sound "in-game" to lure people in.

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Cysa
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Listen I'm not saying that this was a sure thing I just stated that it looked pretty real to me. I just don't like the idea of discrediting websites based entirely on their registration info.

What happens if JJ Abrams decides to create a new site for the game and has someone else do the registration and management for it? So far from what I've seen from everyone else is that if it is made before the slusho and 1-18-08.com its discredited, and if it was made after the transformer's trailer its discredited.

So apparently there is a 24hour window in which website could of been created in order for it to be legit? Why not just try to hunt down websites based on when they were registered? Wouldn't we just have to go to the registration site that slusho and 1-18-08.com were registered with and see what else was registered that day?

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 		Website Creation and "Whois" dates...
I could not agree more...
Cysa wrote:
If people want to slap the Game Jack label on it thats fine, but we really need to develop a better proccess for determine whats real and whats not, granted some of the sites before have been pretty obvious fakes, but really all most of us do is look at when it was registered and if it wasn't registered at the same time as slusho and 1-18-08.com then we auto-maticly disqualify them.

I'm sorry but if that is going to be the soul source of all of our discreditations then we aren't really gonna get anywhere, cause I'm sure JJ is going to create plenty more sites for us to investigate. Just because it was created later in the game doesn't mean it could be any less real.

Also the Webloids page is registered to the same people who registered thefuriousmovie.com, so I'm not sure why its being discredited so easy.

I'm not saying this is for sure one way or the other, I just think we should put in some more research before we just ignore everything because the whois info doesn't match to what we think should be the right info.


Worshippy

Thanks SO much for saying this before I did. I was beginning to think I was the only person on here who thinks past their nose. We are still 5 months away from this film...listen, by the way some people on here talk, if they released a website with a video of JJ giving a press release and had footage of the actors themselves being eaten one by one with huge fondue forks, and the "Whois" or website creation date was one day past the date that the "experts" (who obviously know most everything)....would scream that it cannot possibly be related.
I know that there are TONS of fan created sites, and TONS of OOG sites...TONS. However, not all of the ones that we will see between now and 1-18-08 will have been created before this all started. Of course there will be IG sites that are yet to be completed and released. Just as well, there will be sites that are not owned or operated by JJ or Paramount that will be hints and clues to the overall story....enough with the "Oh, NO...that site was created after --/--/07 so it's definitely OOG."

That's ridiculous.
Bloop!

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 		Re: [SPEC] Blog
http://solongrob.blogspot.com/
You do have a point there Cysa. Okay, Registration dates aside, so far there are things that sways more to the OOG direction for me, like the timeline of the post and posting of his friends entries under one account. See here http://tinyurl.com/2z46ae

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 		Re: [SPEC] Blog
http://solongrob.blogspot.com/
Cysa wrote:
I just don't like the idea of discrediting websites based entirely on their registration info.


Me either...Did you even read what I wrote?!? I said it can only be discredited if it was created BEFORE, NOT AFTER!

Cysa wrote:
What happens if JJ Abrams decides to create a new site for the game and has someone else do the registration and management for it?


Like I said, I think any links to new sites will have to come from an in-game source, like how the Slusho site was found (t-shirt in the trailer) or how the myspace pages were found (back of 1-18-08 photos) - something like that.

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 		Re: Website Creation and "Whois" dates...
I could not agree more...
Annunaki wrote:
Cysa wrote:
If people want to slap the Game Jack label on it thats fine, but we really need to develop a better proccess for determine whats real and whats not, granted some of the sites before have been pretty obvious fakes, but really all most of us do is look at when it was registered and if it wasn't registered at the same time as slusho and 1-18-08.com then we auto-maticly disqualify them.

I'm sorry but if that is going to be the soul source of all of our discreditations then we aren't really gonna get anywhere, cause I'm sure JJ is going to create plenty more sites for us to investigate. Just because it was created later in the game doesn't mean it could be any less real.

Also the Webloids page is registered to the same people who registered thefuriousmovie.com, so I'm not sure why its being discredited so easy.

I'm not saying this is for sure one way or the other, I just think we should put in some more research before we just ignore everything because the whois info doesn't match to what we think should be the right info.


Worshippy

Thanks SO much for saying this before I did. I was beginning to think I was the only person on here who thinks past their nose. We are still 5 months away from this film...listen, by the way some people on here talk, if they released a website with a video of JJ giving a press release and had footage of the actors themselves being eaten one by one with huge fondue forks, and the "Whois" or website creation date was one day past the date that the "experts" (who obviously know most everything)....would scream that it cannot possibly be related.
I know that there are TONS of fan created sites, and TONS of OOG sites...TONS. However, not all of the ones that we will see between now and 1-18-08 will have been created before this all started. Of course there will be IG sites that are yet to be completed and released. Just as well, there will be sites that are not owned or operated by JJ or Paramount that will be hints and clues to the overall story....enough with the "Oh, NO...that site was created after --/--/07 so it's definitely OOG."

That's ridiculous.
Bloop!



Okay guys.
You're very right. Website dating isn't a foolproof method of striking something as OOG.

HOWEVER, right now, you're assuming we take an "innocent until proven guilty" approach to every new website popping up. We don't.

Try this test instead: look at a "new" website. Ask yourself "is this in game?" If you can't say "YES!" within a few seconds, its probably out of game. If you can sit around wondering whether or not it is legit, it is NOT legit.

We got to the myspace pages through the official website-- the factor that immediately let us say, with certainty, that it is in game, is that the myspace pages were around before ANYONE knew the names of the main characters.

You will not find the next break in this puzzle through an anonymous myspacer, random AIM, or website using the character's names. You will be lead either directly by one of the myspace guys, or possibly through the email at Slusho.

I'll say this one last time.

If you're wondering whether a site is in the game or not, ITS NOT

Love to you all

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 		Re: Website Creation and "Whois" dates...
I could not agree more...
Duckie wrote:
Annunaki wrote:
Cysa wrote:
If people want to slap the Game Jack label on it thats fine, but we really need to develop a better proccess for determine whats real and whats not, granted some of the sites before have been pretty obvious fakes, but really all most of us do is look at when it was registered and if it wasn't registered at the same time as slusho and 1-18-08.com then we auto-maticly disqualify them.

I'm sorry but if that is going to be the soul source of all of our discreditations then we aren't really gonna get anywhere, cause I'm sure JJ is going to create plenty more sites for us to investigate. Just because it was created later in the game doesn't mean it could be any less real.

Also the Webloids page is registered to the same people who registered thefuriousmovie.com, so I'm not sure why its being discredited so easy.

I'm not saying this is for sure one way or the other, I just think we should put in some more research before we just ignore everything because the whois info doesn't match to what we think should be the right info.


Worshippy

Thanks SO much for saying this before I did. I was beginning to think I was the only person on here who thinks past their nose. We are still 5 months away from this film...listen, by the way some people on here talk, if they released a website with a video of JJ giving a press release and had footage of the actors themselves being eaten one by one with huge fondue forks, and the "Whois" or website creation date was one day past the date that the "experts" (who obviously know most everything)....would scream that it cannot possibly be related.
I know that there are TONS of fan created sites, and TONS of OOG sites...TONS. However, not all of the ones that we will see between now and 1-18-08 will have been created before this all started. Of course there will be IG sites that are yet to be completed and released. Just as well, there will be sites that are not owned or operated by JJ or Paramount that will be hints and clues to the overall story....enough with the "Oh, NO...that site was created after --/--/07 so it's definitely OOG."

That's ridiculous.
Bloop!



Okay guys.
You're very right. Website dating isn't a foolproof method of striking something as OOG.

HOWEVER, right now, you're assuming we take an "innocent until proven guilty" approach to every new website popping up. We don't.

Try this test instead: look at a "new" website. Ask yourself "is this in game?" If you can't say "YES!" within a few seconds, its probably out of game. If you can sit around wondering whether or not it is legit, it is NOT legit.

We got to the myspace pages through the official website-- the factor that immediately let us say, with certainty, that it is in game, is that the myspace pages were around before ANYONE knew the names of the main characters.

You will not find the next break in this puzzle through an anonymous myspacer, random AIM, or website using the character's names. You will be lead either directly by one of the myspace guys, or possibly through the email at Slusho.

I'll say this one last time.

If you're wondering whether a site is in the game or not, ITS NOT

Love to you all

Duckie
i agree if we can't confirm it as fast as we did slusho then it's a game jack

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 		Re: Website Creation and "Whois" dates...
I could not agree more...
Nitsujest wrote:
Duckie wrote:
Annunaki wrote:
Cysa wrote:
If people want to slap the Game Jack label on it thats fine, but we really need to develop a better proccess for determine whats real and whats not, granted some of the sites before have been pretty obvious fakes, but really all most of us do is look at when it was registered and if it wasn't registered at the same time as slusho and 1-18-08.com then we auto-maticly disqualify them.

I'm sorry but if that is going to be the soul source of all of our discreditations then we aren't really gonna get anywhere, cause I'm sure JJ is going to create plenty more sites for us to investigate. Just because it was created later in the game doesn't mean it could be any less real.

Also the Webloids page is registered to the same people who registered thefuriousmovie.com, so I'm not sure why its being discredited so easy.

I'm not saying this is for sure one way or the other, I just think we should put in some more research before we just ignore everything because the whois info doesn't match to what we think should be the right info.


Worshippy

Thanks SO much for saying this before I did. I was beginning to think I was the only person on here who thinks past their nose. We are still 5 months away from this film...listen, by the way some people on here talk, if they released a website with a video of JJ giving a press release and had footage of the actors themselves being eaten one by one with huge fondue forks, and the "Whois" or website creation date was one day past the date that the "experts" (who obviously know most everything)....would scream that it cannot possibly be related.
I know that there are TONS of fan created sites, and TONS of OOG sites...TONS. However, not all of the ones that we will see between now and 1-18-08 will have been created before this all started. Of course there will be IG sites that are yet to be completed and released. Just as well, there will be sites that are not owned or operated by JJ or Paramount that will be hints and clues to the overall story....enough with the "Oh, NO...that site was created after --/--/07 so it's definitely OOG."

That's ridiculous.
Bloop!



Okay guys.
You're very right. Website dating isn't a foolproof method of striking something as OOG.

HOWEVER, right now, you're assuming we take an "innocent until proven guilty" approach to every new website popping up. We don't.

Try this test instead: look at a "new" website. Ask yourself "is this in game?" If you can't say "YES!" within a few seconds, its probably out of game. If you can sit around wondering whether or not it is legit, it is NOT legit.

We got to the myspace pages through the official website-- the factor that immediately let us say, with certainty, that it is in game, is that the myspace pages were around before ANYONE knew the names of the main characters.

You will not find the next break in this puzzle through an anonymous myspacer, random AIM, or website using the character's names. You will be lead either directly by one of the myspace guys, or possibly through the email at Slusho.

I'll say this one last time.

If you're wondering whether a site is in the game or not, ITS NOT

Love to you all

Duckie
i agree if we can't confirm it as fast as we did slusho then it's a game jack







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 		Agreed...
Yep.
I agree guys. There are many...many that totally scream OOG. There are several that make you step back and think for a few....then your gut steps in and says...ummmm, OOG. The ones with names of characters and discussion of the party, Rob going away, etc. well, those are just crazy, as I don't think Rob knows he's going anywhere yet, or he would have mentioned it on his MySpace page. Assuming that MS is in game, and I believe it is, or someone is really good at creating photos of the actual actors in real life situations.
With that said, there have been several nights that I have spent way too much time, just allowing myself spiral into letting one link lead to another, etc. by following what appeared to be the most random of leads, to just see where it would take me, mainly early on in this mess that we call Cloverfield.
I think there are a few websites (I wish I could retrace myself...I will try to repost if I think of any. I bookmarked a few random ones...) that seemed to be connected, or to make sense to me.
A couple of things that I think we should be paying more attention to: some bird connection, colors, shirts, numbers, names, Rob being main dude, Eye(s), pets/animals, why are all these people in NYC?...
I also think there is something to do with horses/horseracing....again, I will try to retrace where and how I came up with all this. I have kept a notebook, and written down some keywords that keep popping up for me, and those are some of them. If any of the above has shown up more than once for any of you, or anything looks familiar...share.

DISCLAIMER: I am not claiming to be right, nor am I saying that any of the above is even remotely close. These are words/situations that keep coming back around for me, even though I venture down different avenues, therefore I think they may deserve more looking into.

I, for one, am having a great time connecting the dots...!

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 		Just to add, about the actual site being debated in this thread, doesn't it seem a little odd for people to be posting Goodbyes and things like "I'll come see you as soon as I get the time and we can party it up Japanese style" when Rob still has 6 months before he leaves? Doesn't seem very credible to me.

Edit: spelling

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 		I agree with previous post regarding "if we can't tell it's IG within a few seconds, it's probably not." Go look at Year Zero to know what I mean. The sites have a distinction to them. You can tell a YZ site right away.
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