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[Lacey]

He's completing his Master's in Geography, so yeah.

/shudders to think of what I'll have to promise him to get him to leave his thesis long enough to read 46+ pages of "WTH do we do now???" thread

Note to Map: NO. I am NOT re-typing your thesis just for fun.
Note to the rest of you: Get your heads out of the gutter.

[HetMasteen]

Another observation:
It looks as though the left part of the map morphs into a map of some other place. Here's a photoshopped version I've done where I've tried to get the borders as clear as possible while eliminating the background noise. Hope it helps.

ETA: Better version. courtesy of tygr20 and his magical flash decompiling skills:

[Ecks51]

Re: Pretty sure this is indeed a puzzle

[mgelles]

Anybody tried playing with the geographical coordinates of the plus signs?
Michelle

[Jubilus]

Well the borders don't look like Indian tribe borders, as far as I can see on any map.

The PM didn't put any kind of coordinate system on the map so we would have go guess where those crosses are exactly and I doubt he/she would want us to use numbers if they weren't provided.

The only thing I can think of is a location that matches those borders and perhaps the crosses are cities or something... Though what that has to do with burning cities is beyond me.

[Liquidtouch]

Looking near those spots on Google Earth the places are surrounded by Sioux names. Sioux Falls, Sioux City, White Cloud are all places near the spots but not directly on them. I started searching for some common theme here.

Red Cloud, Sioux, etc

And found Brule Warriors and the Battle of the Brule.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Brule

This was a war between Dakota (Sioux) and Ojibwe in October of 1842. A quick look at the Ojibwe and you can see that they lived on the south shore of the Lake Superior (The little dots that Tom left us on his flash map???)


I don't know all are ideas seem to be grasping for straws. Something needs to pop out that FITS....

Some other ideas that might get someone thinking about something.

Native Treaty Maps, I have no idea what date to start at but this is a good site?

http://www.americanpentimento.com/maplinks.htm

I keep thinking the peice of the puzzle we are missing is the barcode dots but what are they?

Liquidtouch

(edited to fix really long, window strechy, link ~ enaxor)

[Bubasture]

Could someone take the new left side of the map and try to check it against mayan territories in Central/South America (not a history major)? The green pluses may match up with ruins or some such.

/grasping at straws

[Ecks51]

grasping at straws

[HetMasteen]

I'm pretty convinced that the new lines we see are crude representations of rivers. I can't show you this with an image, as the US has about 500 trillion rivers, streams, brooks, fords, channels, canals, etc.
But, after some Google Earthing, I can see it shows waterways. I'm trying to take another look at the locations marked with the +s...

[Chronus_Valtiel]

Has anyone noticed that the clouds on the right side turn black for a second?
Fire, maybe?

[GlitteringGold]

Hi all,

Been lurking on this one for awhile, and thought I'd throw in something to perhaps provide a different approach. Maybe the solution lies not in what's being shown, but in what's doing the showing?

What I'm saying is, maybe it has less to do with states and borders and cities, etc. and more to do with the equipment that's capable of producing such an image - it seems to be a bit of a stretch to use Mayan cosmology and modern technology (barcodes, satellite images, etc.) to examine something as terrestrial as Indian treaties and border disputes... maybe we should examine whether the "stars" and the fact that this is an image created by a satellite could suggest a solution that's not so... "terrestrial" in nature?

[Liquidtouch]

On the river theory the battle of Brule was fought in a river. I posted a link previously. Could any rivers be the Brule River??

[ncfriend]

Re: Pretty sure this is indeed a puzzle

[GlitteringGold]

Military Biological/Chemical testing?

[drizjr]

Something has changed on ajkin.com
If you open the site with www.ajkin.com/test.swf , log in and click through to the map, you'll see the Mayan glyph, Mol, floating by with the clouds in the upper left hand corner. (See attachments) This wasn't there a couple of days ago, when I first was playing around with www.ajkin.com/test.swf; only the clouds extended beyond the map.
I don't know if it's meaningful or just some kind of bug in the script, but I know that it wasn't there before.
"Mol" doesn't work as a password nor as an extension the the url, as far as I can tell.
(After some discussion in chat, it seems that this only works when using Firefox as the browser.)