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[davemitrani]

[SPEC] Title and Film Structure Analysis

[KLind]

Re: [SPEC] Title and Film Structure Analysis

[IronJ146]

I've been thinking about this from the get-go, and it's a concept that I've kinda decided to keep in my back pocket until I see it happen. Mainly it's a hope that the film will work into a timeline that starts, well, here I guess...in alternate reality.

It would definitely be cool, and new, but like you said a marketing nightmare. A vast majority would/will be totally confused. Remember that the majority of the population aren't too bright, either, and that's how you make your money is getting them as well as the ones that do get it and appreciate it. Then again, and this is the beauty of the whole project, is that it puts art before profit. Hell, paramount'll presumably make their 30 million investment back opening weekend out of curiosity alone, anyway.

I'm always a proponent of pushing any art form forward. I'm still not sold that this is the case on this film, but it'll surely be awesome if it pans out this way.

[Guest]

Aren there SAG, Director's Guild or what have you rules regarding credits?

[Guest]

[Blargin]

If what you said does happen (in the sense that there's no opening or closing credits) it won't be the first film to do that.

Apocalypse Now did that exact same thing, although I do remember the title being shown. All they did for credits was hand out flyers as patrons entered the theater, which listed all the credits.

[suckaH]

As did Passion of the Christ. Granted, it was for a totally different reason, but the fact of the matter remains that they bypassed the previews.

[elvis cocho]

REALLY?

[i_c_weiner]

George Lucas did indeed get fined. The rest of the movies were non-guild. He originally wanted Spielberg to direct Empire, but that would be out of guild.

Basically, if it's a guild movie, there have to be credits to those who credit is due (cast, crew, etc.). If there isn't any credits, there will be a hefty fine. Lucas just didn't have pre-movie credits, but did have post-movie. Think if JJ decides to have no post-movie credits too. He'll likely get kicked out of everything.

Personally, I would love to have the film open with just "Paramount Pictures presents" "A Bad Robot Production" and then it goes right into the movie. No previews. No credits. Straight into the film. Then, at the end of the film, a little epilogue. And then, lights turn up in the theater. That would bring more realism to the film.

[golf]

Yeah, but personally if I was a cameraman or worse the editor, sworn to secrecy over the film, I would want my name on it when it did come out. The film may stay secretive for a while, but personally I would want people to know it was me who had to keep my mouth shut and make the movie.
Infact, I would probably take Abrams to court myself.

I have one major flaw with the title being 1-18-08. In England, it would be stupid. we would have to change it to 18-01-08, mainly because thats how we read dates (I am tempted to argue this is the sensible way, and Americans do it backwards, but we should overlook that )

[the_velociraptor]

The date isn't the title.