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Chronus_Valtiel
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 		God I hope not.
I'd like to use a third of a year.
Now a time limit would be nicer...
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 		How many days until Christmas???
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Vman
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 		Funny that you mention that, because the counter on the electric church page is for Christmas Eve. So the implication of the site is that we all have until Christmas Eve to live. Something must happen on Christmas Eve. Either that or it is Christmas and the other Christmas counter I referenced was off by one day, can someone verify?
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Vman
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 		OMG, I am so pisse off right now, I just got this reply from Ty about the codex...

Quote:
From: Ty Kieth
Sorry, my friend--you've been punked with a counterfeit Codex. In fact,
checking now...yup, they've deleted it for deniability now that they've
poisoned the water with it.

There is a real Codex out there. What you have here isn't it.


T


AHHH, I feel like screaming, We have tons more work to do folks, we've ben duped...

The PM's were probably jsut scrambling because we got one step ahead of them Wink.
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LolaoftheUnknown
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 		Hey! We've got more people on board.. That's nice..

It makes me sad, that we made so much progress in one day and now we are stuck. The codex we found wasn't the real one?
Well ain't that a load of...

I'm viewing the pages over and over again to see if we missed something...

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 		I didn't think that binary document was anything... it just reduced to a repeated set of lyrics, nothing hidden or 'coded' at all...
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n8ro
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 		Im willing to bet we got ahead of the PM's and they werent ready for us to find a way to the Codex just yet. that would explain the lorem ipsum gobbeldy-gook we decoded.

Maybe we need to take a couple steps back & make sure we didnt miss anything in what we already found. Maybe the blogs hold some key.

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Vman
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 		Yeah, looking back at the basics would probably be the best place to start, allright, I have a relatively work day today, so I'm going to try and make something of the the youtube video tags because they look too similiar to be coincidental or random.

We need (or it would be nice lol)
Someone wanna analyze the blogs down to every word?

Someone wanna look at the first chapter excerpt and see the significance of why every word that starts "'fl" has the rest of word separated? from it?

yeah i think thats all we can do until the book comes out Sad
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Shiningfist
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 		Well, just for kicks and curiosity, I decided to email Ty asking where the real codex was. Its been a day and I've had no response.


But i guess it was sort of worth a try... Confused

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n8ro
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 		okay, I reviewed the blogs as carefully as I can (at work).

nothing really earth shattering, though. the only thing of interest was the similarity of the conversion process between the two: the monks started to recognize each of the victims, began calling them by name, trying to convert them on a social level. finally the last message of each explaining they will no longer be updating, are now affiliated with TEC, etc.

I suppose we could try to contact each through the comments section of the blogs. maybe they will respond if we ask the right questions?

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n8ro
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 		[sorry in advance for the double post]

here is something, could be nothing.

at the "nothing-to-see-here" page, I was looking at the dates & time stamps for the different files. I noticed that two of the files dont follow the military time convention. the Gatz dossier & the Dawson memo both have a time stamp of 12.09AM.

According to wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_time) that time should actually be shown as 00:09AM.

just a thought. I could be reaching (maybe its just a clerical error).

really though, (after reading what I just wrote) I think I maybe need to go outside or something. theres really only so much sun we get here in Seattle, I'd better go enjoy it while its here.

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Vman
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 		EDIT: Can someone please check the tinyurl links please? for some reason they arent working for me.

I know what you mean n8ro, I like there too, actually, I live in Kent, which is lik2 20 min (no traffic) away. But I am going to the UW thisyear, so I will be living there in a few weeks.

Well, they let me off my shift early, so now maybe we can make sense of the youtube tags. Some of them are palindromes and others have letters from the other tags in similar sequences.

first throught tenth

balk onyx
bar one
ant nag
terra green
gnat tang
aha nun
flap sync
clerk pyrex
electric church
be or

now together:
balkonyxbaroneantnagterragreengnattangahanunflapsyncclerkpyrexelectricchurchbeor

now reversed
roebhcruhccirtcelexerypkrelccnyspalfnunahagnattanfneergarretgantnaenorabxynoklab

any other ways of viewing this?

EDIT: btw, here's another email from Ty about the password.

Quote:
From TyKiethSPLATgmail.com:
Those goals are one and the same...as for the password, you may have
already seen it, and not realized it.


T

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GlitteringGold
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 		http://the-electric-church.com/eternalsalvation/ gives us the login in binary 011101000110101101101001011001010111010001101000 which, as has already been established, converts to:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
tkieth


Underneath the title for Chapter One, "No One Paid For Grievous Injury", there are the following 5 numbers: 01110

I noticed that those 5 numbers correspond exactly to the first 5 numbers in the binary code above. It's my guess that the remaining chapter titles will give us the LOGIN, which we already have, NOT the password.... Admittedly, we still do not have the password, but this information combined with Ty's last email suggest the password is here somewhere - without having to wait for the book to come out.
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GlitteringGold
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Vman wrote:

first throught tenth

balk onyx
bar one
ant nag
terra green
gnat tang
aha nun
flap sync
clerk pyrex
electric church
be or


I think this gives us "replacement" letters...

B = O
A = N
L = Y
K = X
R = E
T = G
H = U
F = S
P = C

Note that it goes both ways: B = O and O = B. It fits for the entire list, except for "electric church" in Video 9 (which, interestingly, is the only one of the 10 that doesn't mention the-electric-church.com in the description)....

EDIT: The first word in each converts to the second tag via ROT13 (http://edoceo.com/utilis/rot13.php). Don't know what that tells us, though....

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Lucy
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GlitteringGold wrote:
I noticed that those 5 numbers correspond exactly to the first 5 numbers in the binary code above. It's my guess that the remaining chapter titles will give us the LOGIN, which we already have, NOT the password.... Admittedly, we still do not have the password, but this information combined with Ty's last email suggest the password is here somewhere - without having to wait for the book to come out.

Actually, as the binary converts to the standard alphabet through ascii, all lower case letters will begin with either 0110 or 0111. The 5 digits given (01110) might be the beginning of the binary for any lower case letter between p -> w (inclusive). Given this, I believe your leap to concluding that the chapter binary is only going to spell tkieth again is a little premature.
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