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Perhaps Jamie is kinda computer incompetent and used Lena's cam/computer to make the video. Maybe she asked Lena after to just edit out the last bit about the bladder infection for her. Maybe then Lena, out of curiousity watched the entire video and was offended by Jamie implying that Lena is insensitive or gives bad relationship advice or whatever and "forgot" to edit out the embarrassing bit as a result- it sounds like Lena wants Jamie to move on from Teddy (maybe Lena didn't like him?) and is trying to sabotage the relationship?? Anyways, if that were the case I'm sure she would address it in the next vid, so we'll (hopefully) find out soon. Jamie could also just be that kind of girl, who says whatever pops into her head whenever and just doesn't care.



Wasn't she talking about Marlena or something like that? She looked to the left to make sure she wasnt being heard. So I dont think it's Lena's webcam.

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lestat5891work wrote:
ajaw wrote:
Perhaps Jamie is kinda computer incompetent and used Lena's cam/computer to make the video. Maybe she asked Lena after to just edit out the last bit about the bladder infection for her. Maybe then Lena, out of curiousity watched the entire video and was offended by Jamie implying that Lena is insensitive or gives bad relationship advice or whatever and "forgot" to edit out the embarrassing bit as a result- it sounds like Lena wants Jamie to move on from Teddy (maybe Lena didn't like him?) and is trying to sabotage the relationship?? Anyways, if that were the case I'm sure she would address it in the next vid, so we'll (hopefully) find out soon. Jamie could also just be that kind of girl, who says whatever pops into her head whenever and just doesn't care.



Wasn't she talking about Marlena or something like that? She looked to the left to make sure she wasnt being heard. So I dont think it's Lena's webcam.


Isn't Lena short for marLena? marLENADIAmond

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ajaw wrote:
Isn't Lena short for marLena? marLENADIAmond


Ooooh! Nice speculation!

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 		It's already basically been established that LenaDia is Marlena Diamond.
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nothing happens for so long, then I get sick for 2 days and don't go near my computer and all this happens. Talk about Sod's law, at least now i'm caught up Very Happy

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 		I agree that it's most likely Jamie's room; that Marlena is her roomie; that Marlena is in the next room; that Marlena doesn't like Teddy; that Jamie filmed her video in her bed as an obvious context to Teddy; and that Jamie doesn't seem very computer savvy...at least with webcams.

But what I don't get is this: Jamie lists Photography as one of her main interests; it was, in fact, her minor in college. So she's probably pretty handy with some high-end cameras and camcorders....but she can't figure out a frickin' Logitech webcam...??? Shocked

Also, the blonde chick in the photo above (out on the street when the SOL head is incoming) could well be Jamie; but the guy next to her with the dark shirt is the "mystery guy" I asked about in a separate thread (he's the guy who accompanies Rob at the beginning of the trailer into the apartment). Hud is most likely the guy carrying the camcorder.

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 		Jamie is trying to use buttons to operate a webcam. She is obviously used to operating cameras in a conventional sense. Cameras are generally still quite mechanical in operation, whereas webcams are more virtual, being operated mostly from a software environs. High end cameras are still SLRs, still operated by buttons, knobs, and dials. Notice that the shot itself is pretty well composed.
Where do you get the idea she'd know how to operate high end camcorders if she's a photographer? Moving pictures is cinematography.
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 		While I was all for Jamie and Lena being roommates, I just noticed this on Jamie's myspace page - it's a comment from Lena:

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Sep 5 2007 12:04P

No, you cannot make chicken nuggets in the mircrowave.

You really need to get out of your apartment.


If they lived together, Lena probably wouldn't say "your apartment" - she'd just say "the apartment." She might still say "your apartment" but it's more likely the case that Jamie and Lena don't live together.

So, maybe Jamie is filming the vid. in her own room, in her own apartment - Lena came over to loan her the webcam, or a laptop, or just to show her how to set it all up to record a video (maybe Jamie just recently bought the webcam to make vids for Teddy).

The odd thing is that she glances off-camera when mentioning Lena, but it's before Lena has spoken, so the gesture isn't for Teddy's benefit - how would Teddy know Lena was in the next room? So, either they're in Lena's apartment (and Teddy would recognize it?) - or, Jamie glances off-camera only because she's nervous about Lena over-hearing her, since she's saying that Lena's advice sucked.

Anyway, point is: Jamie and Lena are probably not roommates.

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sky misses flowers or stars miss the sky
Is this what Jamie is trying to quoete, can't find much else.
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 		I don't know if they live together or not but I believe it's definitely Marlena
in the next room.

Jamie didn't just look into the other room she nodded in that direction
as she spoke Marlena's name, indicating that Marlena was there.

Maybe she was just sleeping over at her apartment or Marlena was sleeping at hers.
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 		I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, but couldn't there be a slight chance that the one who recorded the video and the one who uploaded the video is NOT Jamie herself?

THink about it. The website was registered to Teddy, right? And she's, well... on a webcam.

She didn't 'edit' out the bladder infection thing, and she is a tech-ditz.

Doesn't take a genius to know how to use Windows Movie Maker, seriously, and there's no reason why Lenadia couldn't have done it for her if it were her webcam in the first place.

What if the webfeed was actually a live feed TO Teddy? That means, we actually were watching it from Teddy's perspective, and Teddy recorded it from wherever HE was, putting it online, without editing it because... heh heh, he's a naughty one, he is.

The way the video unwravelled was very unprepared, to say the least. Why would you have to open the camera and close it again AFTER starting/finishing the recording? Most people would set everything up, THEN start to record. Unless, of course, the 'connection' was set up in advance, before she set up the camera, and Teddy started recording BEFORE Jamie was ready.

Teddy then registers the Jamieandteddy.com website, and lets Jamie muck up the front page. But the passworded movie section, it just says 'for my baby'. This is no specification if it was written by either Jamie OR Teddy, for one or the other. Teddy could have set up ONLY that bit, and uploaded the video that he recorded of her.

Just my two pennies, but, who knows, it might lead somewhere.

Also she was pretty familiar on that bed. I'm more inclined to believe that it was her apartment, and Lenadia was visiting HER. (Maybe to help her set up the webcam, whatever).

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KitsuneRisu wrote:
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, but couldn't there be a slight chance that the one who recorded the video and the one who uploaded the video is NOT Jamie herself?

THink about it. The website was registered to Teddy, right? And she's, well... on a webcam.

She didn't 'edit' out the bladder infection thing, and she is a tech-ditz.

This has been discussed, indeed.
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Doesn't take a genius to know how to use Windows Movie Maker, seriously, and there's no reason why Lenadia couldn't have done it for her if it were her webcam in the first place.

The file is a .mov file, an Apple native file. WMM would default to a .wmv most likely. If the video had been intended to be 'system neutral' it probably would've been a .mpg file.
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What if the webfeed was actually a live feed TO Teddy? That means, we actually were watching it from Teddy's perspective, and Teddy recorded it from wherever HE was, putting it online, without editing it because... heh heh, he's a naughty one, he is.

If it was live, it'd almost certainly be interactive, as in a web chat. This is a monologue. The way she tells Lena that 'he's watched the video 10 times' on her MySpace tells us she knows it was there, and she intended him to watch it. She also says that there'll be more to come - would you say that if someone was secretly recording you and uploading the video?
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The way the video unwravelled was very unprepared, to say the least. Why would you have to open the camera and close it again AFTER starting/finishing the recording? Most people would set everything up, THEN start to record. Unless, of course, the 'connection' was set up in advance, before she set up the camera, and Teddy started recording BEFORE Jamie was ready.

She fidgets with the camera pressing something thinking she is starting the recording. If Lena is helping her, she starts it then leaves the room. The lens cap is left down so Lena can prevent herself from being in the video. Jamie can very logically open the lens to start recording, but being technically unskilled fidgets with it. Why would teddy leave a webcam recording for a day making ridiculously massive files of crap filling up a hard drive? Videos are HUGE. Notice also she tells the other woman, presumably Lena, that she's done.
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Teddy then registers the Jamieandteddy.com website, and lets Jamie muck up the front page. But the passworded movie section, it just says 'for my baby'. This is no specification if it was written by either Jamie OR Teddy, for one or the other. Teddy could have set up ONLY that bit, and uploaded the video that he recorded of her.

The password being 'jllovesth' indicates it's her statement towards Teddy. If it were his doing, it'd at least be 'thlovesjl'. The domain name would also likely have been in the other order. Also relative to the previously mentioned MySpace comment and those other comments that led up to it, this was arranged to make an impression on Teddy.
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Just my two pennies, but, who knows, it might lead somewhere.

Also she was pretty familiar on that bed. I'm more inclined to believe that it was her apartment, and Lenadia was visiting HER. (Maybe to help her set up the webcam, whatever).

Yep, I and others have largely reached that conclusion too.
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The file is a .mov file, an Apple native file. WMM would default to a .wmv most likely. If the video had been intended to be 'system neutral' it probably would've been a .mpg file.


Ok this one, admittedly, my bad.

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This is a monologue. The way she tells Lena that 'he's watched the video 10 times' on her MySpace tells us she knows it was there, and she intended him to watch it. She also says that there'll be more to come - would you say that if someone was secretly recording you and uploading the video?


Ok then, in that case, they could have pre-planned it. There's no reason or evidence why they couldn't. If you were her boyfriend, you'd watch it dozens of times regardless of whom made the recording. And note, regardless of whom made the recording ALSO, they talk on the phone. This leads to another conclusion.

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If it was live, it'd almost certainly be interactive, as in a web chat.


Not if, for some reason, he couldn't respond. I can view webcams and audio without having a camera or microphone myself. And if they DID have this ability, why call on the phone?

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Why would teddy leave a webcam recording for a day making ridiculously massive files of crap filling up a hard drive? Videos are HUGE. Notice also she tells the other woman, presumably Lena, that she's done.


Because it was set up in advance. The meeting time. I never said that he left it on the whole entire day. And when you're done with something you can't tell your friend that you're done? Man, that's just a bad argument. This as NO impact whatsoever if she did the recording or not. She only said she's done.

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The password being 'jllovesth' indicates it's her statement towards Teddy. If it were his doing, it'd at least be 'thlovesjl'.


She could have asked him to use that password. He could have uploaded the vid. No case. Same goes for the domain name if it were her IDEA.

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Also relative to the previously mentioned MySpace comment and those other comments that led up to it, this was arranged to make an impression on Teddy.


Fine, that's fair. Won't argue with you on this one either.


I suppsed you've gone and totally picked me apart. Well, I still wrote what I thought because it can't hurt, can it?

Too bad for me then. Too bloody bad.

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 		I'm not sure how clear it is whether she realizes it's still recording at the end or just realizes the lens cap is still off. Is there any way to find out the model of the camera she was using for the video? Open the properties in Adobe Premiere or something similar? I know you can get that info from JPEGs.

Also I doubt that Jamie is the one responsible for the still photos on 1-18-08.com since she's a professional photographer and the composition of those pictures really sucks (even a drunk with photography skills would take better photos than that). My guess is they were taken by the guy seen in the teaser taking a photo when everyone says "SURPRISE!" and he's probably just a nameless partygoer.

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1-18-08.livejournal.com wrote:
I doubt that Jamie is the one responsible for the still photos on 1-18-08.com since she's a professional photographer and the composition of those pictures really sucks (even a drunk with photography skills would take better photos than that). My guess is they were taken by the guy seen in the teaser taking a photo when everyone says "SURPRISE!" and he's probably just a nameless partygoer.


Good point...but then again, I think a lot of the 1-18-08.com pix are deliberately blurred and/or cropped by JJ & Company to keep us from finding "giveaway" clues...

...and a lot of the "action" shots are probably taken "in the heat of battle," so to speak, with Jamie (or whoever) just raising the camera and snapping wild shots while on the run.

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