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tygr20
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For what it's worth- I fast scanned node 1 HF.

Here's what I did-

I opened node one, selected HF, went to 3 mHz, and using tabbing within the browser(click on the R Azimuth arrow, take your hand off the mouse, hold shift and press tab, that highlights the L arrow) and held space to scan quickly through the whole frequency. I did this for 3-30 and the only thing I found was what we already knew about- 8 mhz has static and 27 has garbled voices. Anyone care to do LF UHF and VHF, or the other nodes for that matter? 6am will be here soon, and I've got to rest before work.
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Here's what I got mixing the three 127Mhz signals in Audacity.
Kind of a waste of time since they're virtually identical. But, in case I missed anything along the way. There is a little clipping in a couple of the louder areas as I was trying to pull something out of the mud.
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Sounds like a war zone followed by some retro videogame sounds.

Soliders playing Pong perhaps? Razz

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Dearther

Just to keep the group up to speed. Driz and I were looking into the word "Dearther". We found a few uses for it.
1. An Old English word meaning shortage or famine.
2. "Birth Dearther" used to describe a generation such as "Gen X".
3. A race from the Clive Barker book "Imajica".

I dont know if it's relevant but, there it is.

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Dearther

from alphaDictionary: http://www.alphadictionary.com/goodword/word/dearth


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• dearth •

Printable Version Pronunciation: dêrth

Part of Speech: Noun, mass

Meaning: 1. Lack, deficiency, scarce supply, shortage. 2. Specifically, a shortage of food, implying famine.

Notes: This Good Word is the noun from dear, semantically gone astray (see Word History). As a result, there is, if you will pardon the expression, a dearth of this word's relatives. Dearthful was tried in the 18th century, when the word still meant "dearness, costliness". Dearther "someone who causes a dearth" was tried about the same time but, mercifully, was allowed to slip harmlessly into oblivion.

In Play: As Larry Brady once put it (I think it was in the Agora), "I wouldn't say Helen Beddoes was a gold-digger, but I thought I heard her say 'Until dearth us do part' at the altar." In fact, we might even say, "There is no dearth of good ideas about Good Words in the Alpha Agora."

Word History: Today's Good Word came down from Old English (OE) deorthu "expensiveness", the noun from the adjective deore "expensive", which went on to become dear. Dear is used in this same sense (expensive) outside the US, e.g. "The hat was too dear for me." As Adam Smith taught us, the way to keep prices up is to keep supply down, hence the current meaning of the word. The OE word came from the same root as German teuer, Russian dorogoi, and Serbian drag "expensive". (Speaking of which, Katy Brezger was a dear for suggesting today's Good Word in the Alpha Agora.)

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Re: Dearther

LOL

So from that description the page means Mssng Smile

Looks like the theme is back!

we have a dearth on information as to how to proceed from here.

Sun god or no I think the name of the game is Mssng: What you don't see is the most important Smile



ncfriend wrote:
from alphaDictionary: http://www.alphadictionary.com/goodword/word/dearth


Quote:

• dearth •

Printable Version Pronunciation: dêrth

Part of Speech: Noun, mass

Meaning: 1. Lack, deficiency, scarce supply, shortage. 2. Specifically, a shortage of food, implying famine.

Notes: This Good Word is the noun from dear, semantically gone astray (see Word History). As a result, there is, if you will pardon the expression, a dearth of this word's relatives. Dearthful was tried in the 18th century, when the word still meant "dearness, costliness". Dearther "someone who causes a dearth" was tried about the same time but, mercifully, was allowed to slip harmlessly into oblivion.

In Play: As Larry Brady once put it (I think it was in the Agora), "I wouldn't say Helen Beddoes was a gold-digger, but I thought I heard her say 'Until dearth us do part' at the altar." In fact, we might even say, "There is no dearth of good ideas about Good Words in the Alpha Agora."

Word History: Today's Good Word came down from Old English (OE) deorthu "expensiveness", the noun from the adjective deore "expensive", which went on to become dear. Dear is used in this same sense (expensive) outside the US, e.g. "The hat was too dear for me." As Adam Smith taught us, the way to keep prices up is to keep supply down, hence the current meaning of the word. The OE word came from the same root as German teuer, Russian dorogoi, and Serbian drag "expensive". (Speaking of which, Katy Brezger was a dear for suggesting today's Good Word in the Alpha Agora.)


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I have a ton of stuff going on right now so actively trying to solve some of this stuff has been difficult so i will continue to throw out ideas that hopefully lead somewhere....

Looking at Black Hills Radio and broadcasting in general it appears that the area is a bit unique. It sounds like it is very difficult to get stations as you drive through because of all the hills. At night on top of the hills however you can pick up stations as far away as Mexico. Because of this some stations use "repeater" stations to pick up the same broadcast in different areas on different frequency's. Not sure how it fits in if it does at all but perhaps this is why you get similar broadcasts on different stations on the dearther website.

http://www.rosyinn.com/4410.shtml

edit: added link to Black Hills Radio Station Guide

edit to fix the link. ~ drizjr

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Hey guys. No idea what any of this is about, all I know is that I got a PM yesterday asking for my help messing with an audio file, but you seem to have it solved.

For future reference, I can do it fairly well, so if it comes up again, don't hesitate to ask. =] Good luck.
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audioslave wrote:
Hey guys. No idea what any of this is about, all I know is that I got a PM yesterday asking for my help messing with an audio file, but you seem to have it solved.

For future reference, I can do it fairly well, so if it comes up again, don't hesitate to ask. =] Good luck.


Audioslave- not entirely true. We're still working on an audio file, trying to clarify it. I can't pull this particular audio file from the flash- so, here's how to get there. I'm sure you can probably cap it and work with it from there. It may be impossible to clear it up, but hell, it's work a shot.

http://www.blackhillsradiocontrol.com/node1.swf

Settings- bottom buttons, HF, Frequency dial- 27 MHz, Azimuth- 150.0. See what you can discover there, if you please Smile
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Crackling a clue?
I'm not sure...

However, looking at the waveform, it is a 20 second loop.
Here it is. If you find something here, more power to you.

ETA - also posted a slightly slower, slightly louder version. Enjoy!
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Help our scanning effort.
We could really use your help.

So, after a short palaver yesterday on #tomtooman, a decision was made to make a complete scan of all frequencies in order to ferret out other signals.

Since this is no easy task, we hereby request your help.

I have divided the VHF and UHF bands into blocks of frequencies (The LF band is currently being covered in the chatroom).
The 6 VHF blocks contain 40 frequencies each, and the 6 UHF blocks contain 50 frequencies each.

They are as follows:

LF:
block 1: 30 - 109 KHz (drizjr)
block 2: 110 - 199 KHz (completed by HetMasteen)
block 3: 200 - 270 KHz (MerRabbit/GCDOA)
loose change (AKA block 4): 271 - 300 KHz (HetMasteen)

VHF:
block 1: 30 - 69 MHz
block 2: 70 - 109 MHz
block 3: 110 - 149 MHz
block 4: 150 - 189 MHz
block 5: 190 - 229 MHz
block 6: 230 - 270 MHz

UHF:
block 1: 0.5 - 0.99 GHz
block 2: 1 - 1.49 GHz
block 3: 1.5 - 1.99 GHz
block 4: 2 - 2.49 GHz
block 5: 2.5 - 2.99 GHz
block 6: 3 - 3.49 GHz


Now, some things before we start this.

If you wish to take a block, please post and mention clearly which block you want (such as "VHF block 1" or "UHF block 2"). I will update this post with the names of people working on blocks.

please use node 1 only. This is for empirical reasons.

If you find a signal, please post the frequency and azimuth.

They way to efficiently scan is to set a frequency, and then use the TAB button until it lights up one of the azimuth control buttons. Then press the space bar and let the numbers scroll through an entire revolution (i.e from 0.0 all the way around back to 0.0). Pay attention to the gain meter, as well as any changes in the sound.

The white noise will cut for a second every once in a while. This is because the static is a sound file, and it replays itself. Every time it does, there is a short delay.

If you finish scanning a block and find nothing, or abandon your block mid way, please post about it. It would be a shame for us to redo blocks that were already scanned and found empty.


Anyway, happy hunting.
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IGNORE MY PREVIOUS POST
Shocking new revelations.

Stop the scanning. Here's what's just happened.

drizjr pointed out that when you go to www.blackhillsradiocontrol.com/node1.swf, you get smaller frequency increments with the frequency dial than if you open it through the link on dearther.html.
I wanted to figure out why this happened, so I tried finding the swf that the link triggers (it must not be node1.swf, since you get greater control with that one). I opened www.blackhillsradiocontrol.com/node1.html (the page the link triggers) and looked in the source.
Imagine my surprise when I found the following text:

source code wrote:
url's used in the movie.
text used in the movie
saved from url=(0013)about:internet


There are also two other lines of suspicious looking text. HTML guys, your opinion?

This is the same for all three nodes.

Oddly enough, the flash file this links to is indeed node1.swf. So how could this difference occur? Once again, programmer guys - feel free to jump in...


So... What does it all mean? I don't know.
However, DbD mentioned a book called "Imajica" that used the word "dearther". Text in the movie? Text in the book?

ETA - This text is actually a common tag for flash embedded in html. It still doesn't explain why the radio works differently when you access the file directly...
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QUADRUPLE POST
Cross posting with Are you a border thread

In the wake of frustration by recent discoveries, I had a brain fart: dearther is an anagram of "Red Earth", which is the password on areyouaborder.com
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it appears the forced resizing of the window is causing the numbers to be truncated.

the html file shrinks the SWF down

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Re: IGNORE MY PREVIOUS POST
Shocking new revelations.

HetMasteen wrote:
drizjr pointed out that when you go to www.blackhillsradiocontrol.com/node1.swf, you get smaller frequency increments with the frequency dial than if you open it through the link on dearther.html.


HetMasteen wrote:
Oddly enough, the flash file this links to is indeed node1.swf. So how could this difference occur?


Het- I think I can answer this one, maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like the right answer to me. When you open the node1.swf directly, you get a much larger version of the radio. It fills your browser, apparently regardless of the resolution you're set for on the monitor. When the controls are that large, there's more margin for error. I think if you could move the mouse slowly enough and in small enough increments, you'd be able to make the same minute changes to the smaller version that you would the larger version. For those who don't quite get it-

Take Google Earth for example. From the US full map, try to pinpoint your house. Odds are, you'll miss it drastically. Zoom in a little bit. You'll get closer. Go to street level, and you can find it easily. I think it's merely the size of the controls are so large it's easy to move them in smaller increments.
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