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[Spec] Whale references expounded!
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Lasher
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[Spec] Whale references expounded!

OK this may be reaching a tad buit here goes.

For a while I've been trying to figure out what the hell the whlae references have to do with anything so I started to research whales a bit. Habitat, food sources and importantly migration routes. With the new site Tagruato up and giving us details about the company and its drilling, I had the notion that this may have an effect on the whales migration. Here is what I found to be interesting.

I found this site for the NRDC Natural Resource Defense Council. And more specificaly this page. Note that this is an real organisation and a real life site. This page is basically trying to outlne the effects of millitary sonar on the whales migration.

http://www.savebiogems.org/whales/

What is really interesting is the mapped outline they have for the whales migration. There is a little map to the side of the page that you can pop up to see the routes. I poped it open and as soon as I looked at the pic, it hit me... So I fired up photoshop and super imposed the two images together. This is what I found.


{These images where not edited in any way other than to make the land masses line up. Try it yourself and you'll get what I did.}

The Chuai Drilling Station is almost directly in the path of the Humback whales migration route. So with the introduction of the drilling, the deep sea nectar and the military sonar could all pile together to create this "Monsterous" disaster. This all of course lends itself to the "mutated whale" theories.
Laughing

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TorgoBites
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This is an awesome find! Good work Lasher! Very Happy

I mean, it could be just a coincidence, but still very interesting.

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This is really great research Laughing ... even if it´s just a coincidence, I really think it´s cool and kudos to you for doing the work Cool More things to consider..

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Red Walrus
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Good job Lasher.

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i_c_weiner
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Very good job. It is odd that, to me at least, the roar had some whale qualities to it. We even mentioned trying to pull a Star Trek IV and playing the roar as if it were underwater. I always thought that the mutated whale theory is the most sound of all the mutated theories, and this further supports that. However, I also have always thought that the mutated theories were the least plausible of all the monster theories. Mutated monsters are too common, IMO.

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Oniduo
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I still think its an ancient form of whale-like creature that has yet to be discovered. A large typed monster that can survive on the bottom of the ocean. To survive that low it cant have a soft outside so more than likely its skin is like the whole bone thing so the pressure doesnt bother it. This could also mean that bullets from the army cant pierce it.

I actually wonder though about the deep sea thing. Lately some dying ancient breeds have been surfacing to die and also surfacing up here, the gravity is much different. I wonder if that would have an effect on this monster. Maybe its also just coming up to die and Slusho is just a drink everyone enjoys.

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Something everyone forgets when talking about a whale based creature is that they have to breathe air. These are mammals. Speaking of the cold and 'near frozen' state of things down there makes me think that the proto-whale from prehistoric times has been in some way stirred up from a form of stasis down there (if the creature is any relation to a whale). If you freeze cells they explode, so being very cold and close to freezing without actually freezing would be pretty important to this working. Discussions of such a creature just constantly surviving down there forgets the issue of needing air. If this was a populated species coming up from there, it'd probably already have sightings because it'd have to periodically come up for air.

Mutation is of course another story. Yes, it's been done a fair bit, but often with very thin, weak, and implausible basis. Looks to me that if JJ chose that route he's working hard to create a plausible basis and for it.
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God damn it all, i'm stumped.




Perhaps the creature feeds on the DSI and follows the same routes as the whales do during their migrations, it would make sense if it used sonar like the whales too, not only to find the deposits of the DSI but also as a way to get around as the whales do since eye sight in the depe sea is just about useless.

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Maybe the monster is so huge he eats humpback whales.
Shocked

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Lasher
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Euchre wrote:
Something everyone forgets when talking about a whale based creature is that they have to breathe air. These are mammals. Speaking of the cold and 'near frozen' state of things down there makes me think that the proto-whale from prehistoric times has been in some way stirred up from a form of stasis down there (if the creature is any relation to a whale). If you freeze cells they explode, so being very cold and close to freezing without actually freezing would be pretty important to this working. Discussions of such a creature just constantly surviving down there forgets the issue of needing air. If this was a populated species coming up from there, it'd probably already have sightings because it'd have to periodically come up for air.

Mutation is of course another story. Yes, it's been done a fair bit, but often with very thin, weak, and implausible basis. Looks to me that if JJ chose that route he's working hard to create a plausible basis and for it.


Damn you Euchre!! Laughing I never though about that.. No way it can be a whale! Even the proto whales where mamals, gotta breathe air. You made a very good point.

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cassiv
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Exactly what correlation are you pointing out? The only things that fit together is a single migratory track between Florida and Iceland that starts about 500 miles or so WEST of the drilling sites in the Carribean and probably a thousand or so miles west of the newest site in the mid-Atlantic, ending in Iceland, at least a 2000 miles north of the Chuai station.

When you superimposed the image over the Tagruato map, the scale was skewed. Look at the maps side by side and keep in mind their perspective and you'll see how much of a stretch this is.

Other than that, I really dont see any similarities between the 2 maps, other than they have the same continents in them, but then again so do millions of other maps...

I applaud the effort, but I really dont see anything there.

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Euchre
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Lasher wrote:
Euchre wrote:
Something everyone forgets when talking about a whale based creature is that they have to breathe air. These are mammals. Speaking of the cold and 'near frozen' state of things down there makes me think that the proto-whale from prehistoric times has been in some way stirred up from a form of stasis down there (if the creature is any relation to a whale). If you freeze cells they explode, so being very cold and close to freezing without actually freezing would be pretty important to this working. Discussions of such a creature just constantly surviving down there forgets the issue of needing air. If this was a populated species coming up from there, it'd probably already have sightings because it'd have to periodically come up for air.


Damn you Euchre!! Laughing I never though about that.. No way it can be a whale! Even the proto whales where mamals, gotta breathe air. You made a very good point.

Note that I don't rule out it being a mammal, just not one in an active mode of living. There are examples of much smaller creatures out there that can survive freezing temperatures as a congenital part of their body. Nothing so large ever has been seen to be quite the same. Larger mammals have survived extreme cold and periods of clinical death however. If you don't metabolize, you don't need to breathe.
My point is the speculations of this being a whale type species living exclusively at the bottom of the ocean is flawed.
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Alright. I had this long ass theory typed out.. and then my computer sphitzed out. So, here is the condensed version.

Shoot it down all you want.

Noriko Yoshida is a woman who likes experimenting with flavors.
She dissapears while searching for a new flavor, leaving a son behind.
Son, Ganu, becomes CEO of a deep sea drilling powerhouse... otherwise known as Tagruato.
Tagruato dominates the market, making Ganu rich.
Tagruato opens new drilling station in the Mid-Atlantic Ridge.
Finds "unique new ingredient".. as stated in the Slusho! history section.
Doesn't know what to do with said ingredient.
Has a dream, visited by 'whale' (his mother), decides to put new ingredient in slusho.
Ganu himself drinks the unique ingredient.
The ingredient is some messed up thing that slowly turns him into a huge monster.

Because they put small amounts of the ingredient in the Slusho!.. the people who drink the Slusho become smaller, less intense version of the monsters. Kind of like the monster louses that were included on that fan art drawing by Doug something or other. Good drawing, by the way.
Anyways, yeah.

Since Ganu drank the ingredient straight, it affects him seriously, by turning him into a giant, monstrous freak who ends up destroying New York and the Myspace 7.

Fin.

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crazedstapler
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oh. also.



has nothing to do with what i previously posted. and since what i posted earlier really has nothing to do at all with what you were talking about... i was looking whale stuff up and saw this.


its OOG. i know. its some legit nordic researching thing.. but i thought it was pretty interesting.

here you go.http://www.norden.org/nordfiskeri/sk/northernfisheries_25-2005.pdf

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