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Shiningfist
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I have to agree that it does sound like REDICIDE. But to me it soubnnds like, at the end:


"can a spider save it's WEB by eating its head?"

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mortality
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"Red"-icide? Like the epithet for Native Americans?

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mortality wrote:
"Red"-icide? Like the epithet for Native Americans?


Hmmmm. Well this ARg seems to be in some ways related to Native American culture. But i'm not so sure about that, might be a stretch...

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"Can a spider save it's web by eating it's head?"

That is a metaphor for Regicide (the killing of a king/leader).

"Did the government decide on regicide? Does a spider (the government) save it's web (the country) by eating (killing) it's head (the president?)?"

I really think that given the context, he really is saying "regicide".
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drizjr
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Node3 VHF 96Mhz 119.5Az
location, location, location

What I'm hearing for the first sentence is...
Quote:
Hello this is Byrne, Archer, Gale for "Questions and Answers".

Those are three towns in south eastern Idaho.
ETA: Link to map; courtesy of xnbomb.

eta2: Listening again and again, it sounds more like...
Quote:
Hello this is Byrne Archer Gale of "More Question(s) Than Answers".
Dunno

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kolixela
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frequency 27

I was listening to the message on node 1 freq 27.

It sounds like the message is saying "Dr. (someone) has been found out" then repeats then "please advise"

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[Question] What ties these audios together?
A literary connection?

I've been working on a theory that all the audios refer to works by some literary notable. It hasn't come to fruition, but I thought I'd post about it in the hopes that it may spark some ideas.

Shakespeare:
*Byrne-Archer-Gale clip: Regicide is prevalent in Hamlet, Macbeth, Julius Caesar, and Richard III. (This was the spark that lead to this idea.)
I was trying to work out if "Can a spider save it's web by eating it's head?" is in iambic pentameter. Smile

*Thunder Mountain clip: I think I hear, for the second sentence, "Something nasty rotten". "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark", said Marcellus in "Hamlet".
Assuming the last message is "Have we been spied?" and sticking with "Hamlet". Two conspiring men caught in the act... Rosencrantz & Guildenstern?

*Wichita clip: "You know I won't use my name" A woman wanting to remain anonymous... Juilet?

*Boystown/Burnstown(?) clip: "We've killed the adults". This is one that I can't reconcile with a Shakespearean play. Any ideas?

I suppose that one could argue that within the massive quantity of the bard's works, one could find references to just about everything under the sun.

Ok then, if not Shakespeare, could it be some other author? We've seen Poe used on ayab, do his works touch on these themes? Perhaps a contemporary of Poe's?

Maybe there is something else entirely different that ties these clips contextually all together?
Any ideas?

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sMooTH WuN
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Re: [Question] What ties these audios together?
A literary connection?

drizjr wrote:
I've been working on a theory that all the audios refer to works by some literary notable. It hasn't come to fruition, but I thought I'd post about it in the hopes that it may spark some ideas.

Shakespeare:
*Byrne-Archer-Gale clip: Regicide is prevalent in Hamlet, Macbeth, Julius Caesar, and Richard III. (This was the spark that lead to this idea.)
I was trying to work out if "Can a spider save it's web by eating it's head?" is in iambic pentameter. Smile

*Thunder Mountain clip: I think I hear, for the second sentence, "Something nasty rotten". "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark", said Marcellus in "Hamlet".
Assuming the last message is "Have we been spied?" and sticking with "Hamlet". Two conspiring men caught in the act... Rosencrantz & Guildenstern?

*Wichita clip: "You know I won't use my name" A woman wanting to remain anonymous... Juilet?

*Boystown/Burnstown(?) clip: "We've killed the adults". This is one that I can't reconcile with a Shakespearean play. Any ideas?

I suppose that one could argue that within the massive quantity of the bard's works, one could find references to just about everything under the sun.

Ok then, if not Shakespeare, could it be some other author? We've seen Poe used on ayab, do his works touch on these themes? Perhaps a contemporary of Poe's?

Maybe there is something else entirely different that ties these clips contextually all together?
Any ideas?



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*Boystown/Burnstown(?) clip: "We've killed the adults". This is one that I can't reconcile with a Shakespearean play. Any ideas?



what was the name of the Greek tragedy where the son killed his father? Oedipus? Greek tragedies could also be explored here...

This could also go along with Het's earlier post regarding the killing of the president to save the country... we (the son) could have killed our father (the president) to save the family (the country, humanity has a whole?)


STORYLINE SPECULATION:
with the whole apocolypse theme, and seeing how much Bush is hated right now, could this be a "what if?" scenario of what would happen if Bush were to have his finger on the proverbial trigger of a nuclear bomb, after another terrorist attack? (Hence the sattellite view of what appeared to be smoke over major cities in the midwest (terrorist attack?)
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Re: [Question] What ties these audios together?
A literary connection?

sMooTH WuN wrote:

STORYLINE SPECULATION:
with the whole apocolypse theme, and seeing how much Bush is hated right now, could this be a "what if?" scenario of what would happen if Bush were to have his finger on the proverbial trigger of a nuclear bomb, after another terrorist attack? (Hence the sattellite view of what appeared to be smoke over major cities in the midwest (terrorist attack?)


If this is that, I am so outta here.
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Brian Archer Transmission

I've been listening to the Brian Archer transmission for a couple of days now and I have an idea but, I haven't had it lead anywhere so, I thought I'd put it out here and see if maybe it helps someone else out.
At the beginning he says " This is Brian Archer again with more questions than answers." "This question is for" and then I think I hear either "the wing3" or "winged 3"
I've looked into most versions of 3 ravens I could think of but, haven't come up with anything.

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sMooTH WuN
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Re: Brian Archer Transmission

DeadbyDawn wrote:
I've been listening to the Brian Archer transmission for a couple of days now and I have an idea but, I haven't had it lead anywhere so, I thought I'd put it out here and see if maybe it helps someone else out.
At the beginning he says " This is Brian Archer again with more questions than answers." "This question is for" and then I think I hear either "the wing3" or "winged 3"
I've looked into most versions of 3 ravens I could think of but, haven't come up with anything.


3 archangels? gabriel, michael and Rafael?
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mgelles
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That's interesting. Because I initiatially thought the spider quote sounded Shakespearean but couldn't place it. The other connections I wouldn't have come up with but in retrospect I think they're all valid.

Despite not being able to connect the spider quote with a specific work. The question posed seems to have a connection with regicide.
"Can a spider save itself by eating its own head or can we make this right or save ourselves by disposing of of our king or leader. It sounds like this may have been attempted with the we've killed the adults.

As far as the Shakespeare connections Macbeth deals specifically with regicide. Malcom is one of King duncan's sons and following this line of thought to the nth degree could the question be not for "wing 3 but witch 3
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i definitely could be wrong here because I havent read macbeth since high school, but dont the 3 witches refer to themselves as "we three"?

wing three = we three?
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what frequency/node is that particular piece?
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im fairly certain he is saying question 23 not to the winged 3.

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