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[INFO] Colbyrook- I am not a game Jacker
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avpruler
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colbyrook, please forward me one, i dont think ur lying, cuz i only davel in photoshop, and my bro is the family hacker so,


www.myspace.com/shatten_szaro1107

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:58 am
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i_c_weiner
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Here's the easy answer to all of this, noting that I'm not an HTML wizard:
He had a template previously made for a message from this Martin guy for HTMLing things from Myspace.
He decides to HTML Rob's message. He forgot to change some information from Martin's thing.

Now, of course, if my understanding of copy-pasting and creating HTML documents is way off from that, I've got nothing.


I do believe that Colby is telling the truth. Why would he attempt a gamejack, and then come back to defend himself and offer to send the suspicious message to other people? If I were to attempt a gamejack, I'd either (1) just leave or (2) try strongly to defend my point, but never give anybody access to something that would possibly prove I was gamejacking. To this, I believe that Colby isn't gamejacking. He hasn't strongly or adamentally been here defending his point like I would expect from a gamejacker. He seems to be just as lost as we are. Also, he's offered to send the information that, to some of use here, prove that he has been gamejacking. What can a gamejacker gain by sending something that proves he is a gamejacker? I think that the main thing that proves he hasn't been gamejacking is that his offer to send the information to other people.

Also, Colby, if you'd like to, send me the message as well, so we don't have only witch hunters looking at it. My Myspace is myspace.com/comradeweiner

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:17 am
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wargasm
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sad fact #1: whiches apparently are in season
sad fact #2: colbyrook floats

i see noone has recieved this forward yet....

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:47 am
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BigThunder
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5 pages... really???

Regardless of whether or not ColbyRook is a gamejacker or not, let us all consider the myspace message from Rob to be OOG until it's proven to be IG.

Right now it's not IG because no one, not even Colby, has proven it to be true. And even though there are a lot of claims out there, we really haven't even proven that it's false either.

I have my own opinion but I'm going to keep that to myself.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:52 am
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Finch
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i_c_weiner wrote:
Here's the easy answer to all of this, noting that I'm not an HTML wizard:
He had a template previously made for a message from this Martin guy for HTMLing things from Myspace.
He decides to HTML Rob's message. He forgot to change some information from Martin's thing.

Now, of course, if my understanding of copy-pasting and creating HTML documents is way off from that, I've got nothing.


I do believe that Colby is telling the truth. Why would he attempt a gamejack, and then come back to defend himself and offer to send the suspicious message to other people? If I were to attempt a gamejack, I'd either (1) just leave or (2) try strongly to defend my point, but never give anybody access to something that would possibly prove I was gamejacking. To this, I believe that Colby isn't gamejacking. He hasn't strongly or adamentally been here defending his point like I would expect from a gamejacker. He seems to be just as lost as we are. Also, he's offered to send the information that, to some of use here, prove that he has been gamejacking. What can a gamejacker gain by sending something that proves he is a gamejacker? I think that the main thing that proves he hasn't been gamejacking is that his offer to send the information to other people.

Also, Colby, if you'd like to, send me the message as well, so we don't have only witch hunters looking at it. My Myspace is myspace.com/comradeweiner


The thing is though he wouldn't need to do any complex copying and pasting with the ooriginal for us to see. Just highlight the whole thing, copy, paste, done. If he did get a legit email, he copied two divs from the middle of the html and pasted them in place of the same two divs on his friends email. What can be gained from tinkering with his friends message? Nothing, which raises an eyebrow or two how code just ended up there. You don't prove anything by being passive about it, you prove something by offering proof.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:59 am
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keeno_82uk
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the conclusive proof to settle this has not been settled. Colbyrook needs to forward the message. Until then this HTML talk is all but confusing matters.

As the hours tick by, i am slowy becoming certain that colbyrook is indeed a hoaxer.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:13 am
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Euchre
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It's actually a bit silly to ask him to forward the message now, as he'd look for a way to manipulate it as to make it more correct and complete of a forgery. When there were suspicions, if the one suspecting the fake had asked for a forward and he was none the wiser - then a request of a forward might have proved something.

Witch hunts were based on accusations against people who had done nothing, not like this where the person asked us to believe something special they had found/done/shown.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:23 am
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keeno_82uk
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maybe its more of a torch carrying possy from a local village hunting down Frankenstiens creation after he did something wrong, but didn't realise the response it would get lol

i agree, the time for proof has long since past. Is colbyrook going to be banned?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:27 am
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iconsumer
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Look. What he did to the HTML was clear manipulation.

Enough trusted people have verified it (for fucks sake... Mr. Toasty was the first to even give it a looksie, and he's the one who found Tagruato.jp in the first place).

Case closed. Colby needs to be banned, and these threads locked.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:35 am
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SlushoLover
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iconsumer wrote:
Look. What he did to the HTML was clear manipulation.


Agreed. Been programming since 1988 and been a web designer since 1994. You can't muss up any code like that with just a copy and paste error. The moment you see that part of the message leads to Rob while another part leads to this guy Martin tells that (A) the person knew what they were doing when they replaced some parts of the code, (B) the image provided originally is fabricated and (C) no amount of "I am not a crook" will convince me otherwise.

Kudos to MrToasty for his find. I love lurking here but colby cost me alot of time today. He OBVIOUSLY faked this. Trust me. What he did is "kid's stuff" in the world of coding...

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:14 am
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jon-561
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SlushoLover wrote:
iconsumer wrote:
Look. What he did to the HTML was clear manipulation.


Agreed. Been programming since 1988 and been a web designer since 1994. You can't muss up any code like that with just a copy and paste error. The moment you see that part of the message leads to Rob while another part leads to this guy Martin tells that (A) the person knew what they were doing when they replaced some parts of the code, (B) the image provided originally is fabricated and (C) no amount of "I am not a crook" will convince me otherwise.

Kudos to MrToasty for his find. I love lurking here but colby cost me alot of time today. He OBVIOUSLY faked this. Trust me. What he did is "kid's stuff" in the world of coding...


I also think the fact that he used the word "organise" instead of organize in the email makes it crystal clear that the author is either British or Australian (which Colby is and Rob isn't)....

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:18 am
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Hawbs
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firelight wrote:
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I got a forward, but yea the message could have easily been altered.


can you forward it to myspace.com/gigidygigidygigidygigidy

(sorry, the only one I currently have... Very Happy )


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So thats firelights Myspace? Go there, scroll down. There was a comment left by Colby on May 12, 2007.

firelight = colby
imo

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:46 am
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W-Three
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Seems more likely that they know each other. But who knows.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:52 am
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Bruce
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Hawbs wrote:
firelight wrote:
Uninvited wrote:
I got a forward, but yea the message could have easily been altered.


can you forward it to myspace.com/gigidygigidygigidygigidy

(sorry, the only one I currently have... Very Happy )


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So thats firelights Myspace? Go there, scroll down. There was a comment left by Colby on May 12, 2007.

firelight = colby
imo


From that post I gathered that firelight is another friend of Colby's named Ben.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:03 pm
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Ziz
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Ok, I am hesitant to even give this yam bag any more air play, but after reading this entire thread I have to throw this out there. Firelight is definitely Colbyrook just look at the sentence structure in each of their postings. I spent 10 years as an Army officer in PsyOps. Studying grammerical structure and handwriting analysis was one of my specialties. If the Mods are wise they will ban them both.

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