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How long has Slusho been sold in Japan IG?
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iconsumer
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 How long has Slusho been sold in Japan IG?
lots of speculation as Slusho=drug-the-population - trying to get some evidence either way

There's been a lot of speculation about Slusho turning people into monsters, or testing the deep sea ingredient on the human populace, etc. etc.

... but what a lot of people seem to keep missing is that there has been reference to Slusho having been in Japan for a while (or maybe I'm wrong).

What's the accumulative info so far on how long Slusho has been on the market IG in Japan?

We know based on the Tagruato site that it hasn't hit the USA yet (and when it does IG will probably also be when the OOG drink tie could happen... probably closer to the release date of the movie).

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What's the accumulative info so far on how long Slusho has been on the market IG in Japan?


All I remember matter of factly was that - Slusho! brand happy drink is a icy cool beverage that is rapidly becoming one of the company's most profitable expenditures........Slusho! has grown to the second most popular frozen drink in all Asian markets ...neither of which confirm any set amount of time in terms of Japan's availability to the delicious icy cool happy drink of choice.

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We know based on the Tagruato site that it hasn't hit the USA yet
Actually I don't know if this is the case...evidence thet seems to contradict this can be found here in one of JJ's (Hawk's) blog . I don't know if we're supposed to follow as if it's just not available in our town yet or what. But it seems like IG it may be "available" in NYC as we speak. Based on the Slusho subsidiary page in the Tagruata site we can safely assume the marketing campaign for Slusho! is not yet under way in the west.

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We know based on the Tagruato site that it hasn't hit the USA yet
Actually I don't know if this is the case...evidence thet seems to contradict this can be found here in one of JJ's (Hawk's) blog . I don't know if we're supposed to follow as if it's just not available in our town yet or what. But it seems like IG it may be "available" in NYC as we speak. Based on the Slusho subsidiary page in the Tagruata site we can safely assume the marketing campaign for Slusho! is not yet under way in the west.


Good point Dr. Awkward! The way I see it, this points to the direction that some testing of Slusho might be under way in the USA, namely NY, because we have two contradictin IG sources: Tagruato site telling us Slusho hasn't hit western markets, and JJ's myspace blog telling us he had a slusho - unless someone brought it from Japan and gave it to him, which might also be a possibily, but I'm leaning more towards the first one. Either way, someone in NY has access to slusho right now (IG).

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riquardo wrote:
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We know based on the Tagruato site that it hasn't hit the USA yet
Actually I don't know if this is the case...evidence thet seems to contradict this can be found here in one of JJ's (Hawk's) blog . I don't know if we're supposed to follow as if it's just not available in our town yet or what. But it seems like IG it may be "available" in NYC as we speak. Based on the Slusho subsidiary page in the Tagruata site we can safely assume the marketing campaign for Slusho! is not yet under way in the west.


Good point Dr. Awkward! The way I see it, this points to the direction that some testing of Slusho might be under way in the USA, namely NY, because we have two contradictin IG sources: Tagruato site telling us Slusho hasn't hit western markets, and JJ's myspace blog telling us he had a slusho - unless someone brought it from Japan and gave it to him, which might also be a possibily, but I'm leaning more towards the first one. Either way, someone in NY has access to slusho right now (IG).



Maybe its available in test markets. Take the new iPod Touch. It didn't officialy release until the 28th of September but people in some areas were able to get them weeks earlier. Either that or the tagruato site hasn't been updated yet, such as in the case of the drilling site that still says opening Sept. 07.

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My theory on Hawk's post about drinking Slusho already, when it's not supposed to be in America yet:

...Hawk is a bum.

If you read through his Myspace page, pretty soon you realize that he's an unemployed, undereducated bum who leeches off his girlfriend (Lil) and his brother (Rob). I strongly suspect that when Rob moved from Minneapolis to New York, Hawk just "tagged along," and probably doesn't pay rent or do his fair share of housecleaning, yadda yadda yadda.

Anyhoo. If Rob works in Slusho's marketing department (a pretty good probability), then he likely receives a lot of promotional material -- T-shirts, free Slusho samples, what have you.

And Hawk, being the leech he is, "borrows" all of that from his brother.

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To me it seems that all of the myspace stuff is happening in real time in relation to the movie coming out next year so my guess is that an advert for slusho (if one ever comes out) will happen soon. The clue that an advert is coming/is around will probably come either from the new site or from rob on myspace.


I personally don't think the Slusho turns people into the creatures, i think the deep sea drilling off the coast of America is the cause for the monsters appearance. Closer to the opening of the movie we might even get signs that something weird/bad is happening near/at the site of the drilling. *fingers crossed*

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Apart from this ARG - we can call it that now, right? - the thing that sets this monster-movie apart from all others is the hyper-realistic, hand-held camera approach. The trailer is amazing because it seems like it could really be happening. That's the 'catch' or 'hook' or 'twist' or WHATEVER for this movie.

NOW, I know there's that stuff in the Slusho History about Noriko being/becoming a whale, but the idea that drinking seven or more Slusho's (or any amount of Slusho! for that matter) will turn a 5-6 ft. tall, 150-200 lb. human being into a creature with the biomass of, say, a blue whale - something big enough to rip off the SOL's head and toss it down Manhattan... this idea is not in any way, shape, or form, "realistic." In fact, without knowing anything about 'biophysics' I can still say, pretty darn confidently, that such a transformation would be impossible. Only at Hogwarts could something like that happen. Think about it: what conceivable biological processes could account for such a transformation? Even if, for the sake of argument, it was an alien nano-parasite that could intelligently manipulate human DNA or some such, where is all the biomass going to come from? The person would have to eat and eat and eat... so, maybe it's Noriko, since she's been missing and could have been out there in the ocean just eating this whole time. Even in that case, though, it would still defy biology and physics in a way that's not even remotely "realistic."

Instead, a much more plausible explanation would be that the monster has always been around and we just didn't know about it, ala BLOOP. Targuato just pissed it off by disrupting its habitat or its food supply, etc. That works. For a movie as 'realistic' as this one seems to be, the Bloop idea is FAR more likely than Slusho-turning-people-into-monsters.

OR, the monster was specifically designed/created in a lab and set loose on NYC, ala The Watchmen. That could also work, I suppose. Smile

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The Watchmen had nothing to do wtih a monster, they weren't that kind of superheros. In fact they weren't even "super" heros (other than Docter Manhatten). But the rest of what you said I agree with 110%.

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Didn't Ozymandius et. al. teleport a big-ass 'monster' into NYC at the end of The Watchmen? That's all I meant by referencing it. I know it wasn't a real monster in the story, but it was meant to be... wasn't it? (I haven't read it in a while). Hurm...

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Returning to whether or not slusho is available in the US, I sent a message to Hawk (he hasn't read it yet) saying I didn't know it was available in the US and how did he get his hands on it. Hoping the answer (if I get one) might answer some questions.

My geuss is, he gets slusho from an outside source, like if Teddy worked for slusho. I'm pretty sure that Rob doesn't work for slusho yet.

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Melampus wrote:
Didn't Ozymandius et. al. teleport a big-ass 'monster' into NYC at the end of The Watchmen? That's all I meant by referencing it. I know it wasn't a real monster in the story, but it was meant to be... wasn't it? (I haven't read it in a while). Hurm...


Yeah, the thing that was supposed to be thought of as an alien. I thought you were one of the few still clinging to the hopes that this is somehow tied to the watchmen when the watchmen were sooooo not about fighting monsters.

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My point about the availability of Slusho in Japan is that since it has been referred to as the second biggest drink in the Asian market, that would be solid evidence to debunk the slusho=mutant-people theory.

... because if that theory was correct, Asia would already be going through some chaos way before the events of the movie hits, and the IG characters / websites would most likely reflect such events.

Just sayin'

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Yeh, I think that the slusho-turn-people-into-mutants theory is completely out of the question. Its possible it acts like catnip to the monster though.

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Agreed, agreed, and agreed (to the last 3 posts). Smile

I thought The Watchmen references on myspace could be a hint that some LOST related group is behind the whole thing (for the same general reasons that Ozy and his crew had in the Watchmen).

And, yeah, the fact that many, many people in Japan have already experienced the joy that is Slusho means that Slusho doesn't turn people into monsters.

That also has some relevance to the Slusho-as-monster-catnip theory. Given that Slusho has already saturated Japan, wouldn't the monster attack Tokyo instead of NYC? But, then, it's a big world, and maybe NYC is just closer to the monster's 'home' - so, that theory could still work.

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My point about the availability of Slusho in Japan is that since it has been referred to as the second biggest drink in the Asian market, that would be solid evidence to debunk the slusho=mutant-people theory.
... because if that theory was correct, Asia would already be going through some chaos way before the events of the movie hits, and the IG characters / websites would most likely reflect such events.
Just sayin'


I agree completely. The "slusho=mutant-people" seems all but debunked because we know of headlines provided by Tagruato that seem to completely negate and contradict it.
The headline 'Tagruato cares!" wrote:
The lovely ladies handed out seven drinks to each senior in any flavor they could imagine

No mutations there...
Tagruato sees to it that each of the feeble old folks at Ibaraki consume more than "just six" Slusho!'s and it does have a hinted conspiratorial overtone (when combined w/ the characteristic effects we know Slusho! has).
Although there does seem to be an agenda, turning people into mutant whale hybrid creatures doesn't seem to be it. Their actions could as well be simply a novel way of reinforcing the delicious icy cool happy drinks motto.

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Onto speculation as to Slushos! current availability


Although Alias had no ARG or viral campaign, are we to borrow from that reality and follow as if Slusho! is already available and distributed in select (random) convenient stores, and a search is on for top marketing professionals who will insure it's success in the West will rival that of its success in Asia, causing it to be a staple in every 7-11, etc. (Tagruato - Our aspiration is to one day place Slusho! dispensers in every convenience store and mini mart..) ??

Hawk's actions in his blog are stated with such nonchalance...it sorta contradicts (though admittedly not completely) the test market and promotional big brother borrowing theories...
Hawk wrote:
...I took the 'balls back to my apt, packed a bowl, chugged a Slusho, and I was gonna cruise craigslist for job postings but A&E was running a Sopranos marathon...


Just seems like he assumes peole know WTF a Slusho is!
Mostly speculation admittedly…
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