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[SPEC]How the monster awakens
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Red Walrus
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 		[SPEC]How the monster awakens
Leading evidence on the Tagruateo site
From Investor news on the Tagruato site:

Tagruato announces plans for "undersea construction sites"
Next time you drive by a large construction site demolishing a building or putting up new infrastructure, imagine it underwater.

Such is the latest directive of the Tagruato corporation. Company spokeswoman Suzume Soga announced this week that Tagruato has long been developing vehicles and machinery that will operate at the same capacity as the bulldozers and cranes you pass on the freeway each day, but also function at the ocean's greatest depths. COO Danno Jo, right hand man and cousin of CEO Ganu Yoshida, has been overseeing the revolutionary project.

"There are great reservoirs under the ocean floor that no one can get to due to obstruction by physical elements," explained Jo at the December 18th press conference. "With these new technologies in place, Tagruato will destroy any barrier."

Another benefit of these new technologies is the ability to actually construct drilling stations from the ground up. In the past, the process has been to build the various parts of the station in Tagruato's mainland factories, ship them across the oceans on aircraft carriers, and then reassemble them underwater. The process can be costly and time consuming.

"We can now skip that step," said Danno. "In a perfect world, we'll never have to work from the surface again."
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This was said at a December 18th conference of last year. So was the new station made with this new technology and are they going to awake a sleeping giant --If you haven't read it --see my thread on extremophiles:
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21345&sid=b656cf72e6ccaef1e0da3cd67a7aa4e4

Notice this:

"There are great reservoirs under the ocean floor that no one can get to due to obstruction by physical elements," explained Jo at the December 18th press conference. "With these new technologies in place, Tagruato will destroy any barrier."

Sounds like they broke into an previously undisturbed area.

It seems this report is giving us a big clue about how the monster is disturbed.

edit to add tag ~rose

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 		I thought it was obvious from the discovery of the Tagruato site that it was the cause of the awakening of the monster :-/

Ah well, good to have a thread to discuss it anyways.

In short, I agree.

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Kraker wrote:
I thought it was obvious from the discovery of the Tagruato site that it was the cause of the awakening of the monster :-/

Ah well, good to have a thread to discuss it anyways.

In short, I agree.


It just seems that things are being skipped over too quick, this spells it out. With this new technology they are going to break through previously unbreakable barriers in the deep sea floor.

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 		I'm all for it. But, there's still one thing that needs to be explained: why did the thing attack NYC? I mean, I could understand it attacking the Tagruato construction team and/or drilling station or ships, etc., but why go all the way to NYC?

Maybe the Tagruato people disturb the monster when building their Chuai station, and it attacks the construction project. The Tagruato people that survive that encounter flee on a surface vessel and head for NYC, as the closest major port - and, the monster follows them in.

If this is the way it goes, we'll probably find out about it as the events unfold in 'real time', e.g., if we get access to more 'internal' communications at Tagruato, then we'll read about construction halting on the Chuai station (sometime around December or early Jan.), etc. That would make the movie a whole different experience for those of us playing along at home, eh?

Anyway, assuming you're theory is correct - and, like I said, I'm all for it - why NYC? Any ideas, or is this a topic for a different thread? Wink

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 		I was always against a Slusho connection but if the extremophiles are in slusho the monster could be following a shipment to the states in. If the monster is an ancient extremophile awakened or a mutated one or genetically altered one it would explain it's anger at humans eating it's kin.

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 		It might also be New York is the closest and by January everyone will be eating and drinking the secret ingredient and ending up in the sewers and the ocean it might lead the monster there.

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If this is the way it goes, we'll probably find out about it as the events unfold in 'real time', e.g., if we get access to more 'internal' communications at Tagruato, then we'll read about construction halting on the Chuai station (sometime around December or early Jan.), etc. That would make the movie a whole different experience for those of us playing along at home, eh?


I was thinking the same thing. Maybe some video SOS from the platform where in the last few seconds the roar is heard.

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mhovis wrote:
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If this is the way it goes, we'll probably find out about it as the events unfold in 'real time', e.g., if we get access to more 'internal' communications at Tagruato, then we'll read about construction halting on the Chuai station (sometime around December or early Jan.), etc. That would make the movie a whole different experience for those of us playing along at home, eh?


I was thinking the same thing. Maybe some video SOS from the platform where in the last few seconds the roar is heard.


That would be cool and if TPTB are lurking on these boards consider it.

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 		yea the workers on the platform get disturbed by a wild roar while watching one of the (in)famous tagruato corp. training flicks Razz



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 		The "alien" monster attacks NYC because he sees the lights of the Manhattan skyline and it reminds him of his home planet and the people who imprisoned him and banished him to space. Shocked

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 		 SOS Video Concept
The video concept of the last seconds on the platform is great. I would totally see the marketing team producing this for a trailer, most likely a last month before release trailer. But I am a firm believer that since we're the ones doin all the work, we should get the reward...Maybe an earlier look at trailers or extended scenes, but something extra. We are the ones who obviously care the most about the movie!

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 		Re: SOS Video Concept
NYC5 wrote:
The video concept of the last seconds on the platform is great. I would totally see the marketing team producing this for a trailer, most likely a last month before release trailer. But I am a firm believer that since we're the ones doin all the work, we should get the reward...Maybe an earlier look at trailers or extended scenes, but something extra. We are the ones who obviously care the most about the movie!


Ha, Good one!! I wouldn't mind seeing a tanker called The Red Walrus. Smile

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Kraker wrote:
I thought it was obvious from the discovery of the Tagruato site that it was the cause of the awakening of the monster :-/

Ah well, good to have a thread to discuss it anyways.

In short, I agree.


It is possible that the "awakening the monster theory" is off base. Jabrams is famous for his flavor of irony.
Wouldn't recovering a scientific discovery of this magnitude ( an ancient, lifeless (dormant Rolling Eyes ) undiscovered life form (pre evolved whale??)
with the characterictics of an extremophile and then having it spring to life after it's been recovered and docked to land contain an element of irony that the other theories may not??

Imagine an archeological discovery regarding this from the investor news:

Tagruato drilling page wrote:
Next time you drive by a large construction site demolishing a building or putting up new infrastructure, imagine it underwater.
Such is the latest directive of the Tagruato corporation. Company spokeswoman Suzume Soga announced this week that Tagruato has long been developing vehicles and machinery that will operate at the same capacity as the bulldozers and cranes you pass on the freeway each day, but also function at the ocean's greatest depths. COO Danno Jo, right hand man and cousin of CEO Ganu Yoshida, has been overseeing the revolutionary project.

"There are great reservoirs under the ocean floor that no one can get to due to obstruction by physical elements," explained Jo at the December 18th press conference. "With these new technologies in place, Tagruato will destroy any barrier."

Another benefit of these new technologies is the ability to actually construct drilling stations from the ground up. In the past, the process has been to build the various parts of the station in Tagruato's mainland factories, ship them across the oceans on aircraft carriers, and then reassemble them underwater. The process can be costly and time consuming.

"We can now skip that step," said Danno. "In a perfect world, we'll never have to work from the surface again."


I know I already mentioned it (as well as 100 others most likely), but it seems plausible that the deep sea excavation process in Chaui could lead to an archaeological discovery of some ancient (prehistoric) giant (monstrous) extinct form of life.

Red Walrus ...
Do the extremophile's you've mentioned lie dormant under extreme cold temps, and become active upon "thawing" so to speak??

If this is the case, perhaps the "discovery" of the ancient extinct form of life would perhaps do the same. Wink

Tagruato is probably ecstatic over another seemingly "priceless" discovery due to their exclusive technologies.
Perhaps this "discovery" comes into consciousness as it thaws out of its pressurized, frozen slumber and begins wandering around the mass of land nearest its proximity.

It could awaken on it's way to the surface...or perhaps it awakens while in isolation on dry land in the city somewhere.

Perhaps people know of this "big discovery" but are under the impression it is lifeless.

When the hysteria begins, someone sees a glimpse of the discovery that they read and saw pics of in the newspaper and says, "I saw it, it's a lion Cool ...it's HUGE!!"

J/K about the lion... Rolling Eyes

Help me out here guys... Confused
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yea the workers on the platform get disturbed by a wild roar while watching one of the (in)famous tagruato corp. training flicks Razz



Awwwwww... come on!!!

I thought this was funny!!

Did no one else think it was funny?!?

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Melampus wrote:
I'm all for it. But, there's still one thing that needs to be explained: why did the thing attack NYC? I mean, I could understand it attacking the Tagruato construction team and/or drilling station or ships, etc., but why go all the way to NYC?

Maybe the Tagruato people disturb the monster when building their Chuai station, and it attacks the construction project. The Tagruato people that survive that encounter flee on a surface vessel and head for NYC, as the closest major port - and, the monster follows them in.

I like that thinking, the only solidly plausible idea for how an event at the Chuai station would lead straight to NYC. Another reason for escaping survivors to set such a course - you are likely to encounter many other vessels headed for NYC as you get closer, so more chances for aid or rescue.
Red Walrus wrote:
It might also be New York is the closest and by January everyone will be eating and drinking the secret ingredient and ending up in the sewers and the ocean it might lead the monster there.

As I've said before elsewhere, ocean currents don't run straight from NYC to the Mid-Atlantic ridge, so that'd be a really bad move for plausibility. To go from A to B based on that the creature would be venturing on a long trip north and back south. That'd take so much time that any event at Chuai would have had a pretty well documented response - like it'd happen just about in the present. If we see such information about the Chuai station on Tagruato.jp site then it might be plausible. Basically, the creature needs to have something to follow to NYC, and my suspicion is that it'll be in much shorter order.

I'm also very keen on the trailer (we should call the first item a 'teaser', as that's what such a piece of footage is called, especially considering JJ's reference to the "real trailer") showing us events at Chuai as part of the footage, if not possibly as basically ALL of it. Again comparing to Transformers that this project was first disclosed with, that movie showed us a teaser first that showed very little that was about the 'meat' of the movie. I can accept that the party footage is important to the story but that it's just a relatively incidental slice of the total movie's footage.
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