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#l3 conversation from 5/14

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AnthraX101
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#l3 conversation from 5/14

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[15:49] * Now talking in #l3
[15:49] <SLake> What do you expect me to do about the threats?
[15:49] <SLake> Call the bully and tell her not to?
[15:49] <rose> how about some advice?
[15:49] <rose> Marcus told me to ask you for help
[15:50] <SLake> I'm not masterminding anything else. I'm legal representation for Ideltech. Not the Green Lantern.
[15:50] <rose> So Marcus was just giving me the run around then?
[15:50] <rose> by telling me to talk to you if i need help?
[15:51] <SLake> Last time I tried to help. I got fed to the alligators..
[15:51] <rose> you did?
[15:51] <rose> what do you mean?
[15:52] <rose> I seem to recall being on the receiving end of your wrath
[15:52] <SLake> Exactly. Why should I stick my neck out when all it does it put me in between a rock and hard place?
[15:53] <rose> that is a lousy attitude Mr. Lake
[15:53] <rose> listen
[15:53] <SLake> Thanks Ms. Greenfell or whomever you are.
[15:53] <rose> I think someone at Ideltech is giving information to Alecia Church
[15:53] <rose> you're welcome Mr. Lake Smile

[15:54] <rose> information that isn't part of employee records
[15:54] <SLake> that would be something to seriously look into if I were Ideltech's security.
[15:55] <rose> so I should tell Elias?
[15:56] <rose> Marcus gave me his number but I don't intend to bother him on vacation
[15:56] <SLake> I'm really sorry, but I'm not James Bond. I know my limitations and I'm not about to tell you do to one thing or another.
[15:56] <SLake> What are your/our options?
[15:57] <rose> if you can't help me, I should just figure it out myself
[15:57] <rose> what I don't understand
[15:58] <rose> is what DO you care about?
[15:58] <rose> Marcus is your client, and he told me to turn to you and you're just not helping me at all
[15:58] <SLake> I picked a side and I'm sticking with Ideltech and making sure they get the best representation I can provide.
[15:58] * User (johnahue42SPLAT3c041c4.6b45bb2.ipt.aol.com) has joined #L3
[15:58] <rose> who is User?
[15:59] <AnthraX101> John Hue
[15:59] <SLake> Marcus is a busy man. He sluffs stuff over to me on just about everything.
[15:59] <SLake> I got an email regarding purchase on toner cartridges today.
[15:59] * johnahue42807 (johnahue42SPLAT3c041c4.6b45bb2.ipt.aol.com) has joined #L3
[15:59] <SLake> Why? Becuase Marcus is gone.
[16:00] <rose> you are equating me with toner cartridges?
[16:00] <rose> are you just mad because I cursed at you? because I am reaching that point again
[16:01] <SLake> Let go of your hatred. Razz

[16:02] <rose> what are you now, the guy from "Kung Fu?"
[16:02] <johnahue42807> David Carradine?
[16:02] <rose> listen someone is spying for Alecia Church
[16:02] <SLake> No. Much more yoda like.
[16:02] <rose> do you care about that?
[16:02] <SLake> Has anyone solved the login or OE.com yet?
[16:02] <SLake> or=for
[16:02] <rose> not yet
[16:03] * Rasputin42x69 (Rasputin42SPLAT2fc699fc.7f8dc.3f38bee0.330f146X) has joined #l3
[16:03] <rose> I think the user name is AChurch
[16:03] <rose> but not the password
[16:03] <AnthraX101> "solved"? What do you mean by that?
[16:03] <Rasputin42x69> Greetings.
[16:03] <rose> I've been trying
[16:03] <SLake> solved=cracked=resolved=figured out
[16:04] <AnthraX101> You wouldn't happen to be encouraging us to break the law and forge our identity, would you mr lake?
[16:05] <SLake> As legal counsel for your employer I do not recommend breaking any laws.
[16:05] <rose> we got a few hints from Marcus ( who cares about me)
[16:05] <rose> about how easy it is
[16:05] <rose> and about poetry, I think
[16:05] <SLake> But I cannot prevent any attempts to break the law either. I'm not your guardian Angel.
[16:06] <rose> I'll add that to the list of what you aren't Mr. Lake
[16:06] * bagsbee (bagsbeeSPLATf5eb36d.52627b1.nyc.rr.com) has joined #l3
[16:06] hello everyone
[16:06] <rose> hi bagsbee
[16:07] <SLake> Ms. Greenfell. I'm under no contractual obligation to do anything for you. You are not an employee of Ideltech.
[16:07] <SLake> I hate having to remind you that.
[16:07] <SLake> ...remind you of that.
[16:08] <rose> ok, well then I don't need to talk to you I suppose
[16:08] <rose> thanks
[16:08] * rose (roseSPLATcc59707.11de379d.ipt.aol.com) has left #l3
[16:08] <AnthraX101> One thing that you do have a responsability is protecting Ideltech however. If someone has access to TOBI who should not, perhaps you should bring that up to the people who should know?
[16:08] <SLake> Give me proof that someone has access TOBI without permission and I'll do my job.
[16:09] <SLake> Don't hand me hearsay and innuendo
[16:09] <AnthraX101> I'm not telling you to do anything, however if there is a posability of something, it should be investigated. And you have shown us you do not wish us to do the investigating
[16:10] <AnthraX101> Last time we tried to follow hearsay and innuendo, we asked if the guy really killed kennedy, as you put it.
[16:11] <SLake> Investigating isn't the same as canvassing.
[16:11] * johnahue42807 (johnahue42SPLAT3c041c4.6b45bb2.ipt.aol.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[16:11] * User (johnahue42SPLAT3c041c4.6b45bb2.ipt.aol.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[16:11] <Rasputin42x69> That was because a couple of us EMailed Ms. Church. Thankfully, I'm not among that number.
[16:11] <AnthraX101> I am aware of they Mr. Lake does not approve of us investigating claims.
[16:12] <SLake> Digging through someones trash isn't the same as taking the can, dumping on their frontlawn in broad daylight and sifting through it.
[16:12] <Rasputin42x69> I agree.
[16:12] <Rasputin42x69> I'm interested in getting the skinny on her, but I'm not about to draw attention to myself.
[16:14] * dashcat (dashcatSPLAT3231975e.1c6ad229.client.comcast.net) has joined #l3
[16:14] I don't really understand what the problem is here
[16:15] we want to find out information, so we go about trying to find it out, and there's a problem?
[16:15] <SLake> I would only suggest doing legal things here. But since you crashed through the front door with a few people here. You might let the others sneak around and see what else they could find.
[16:15] did someone do something illegal?
[16:16] sending an email is illegal?
[16:16] <Rasputin42x69> Sending an EMail draws attention to yourself.
[16:16] or did someone use other means that I'm not aware of?
[16:17] <SLake> No. I was simply clarifying for anyone logging this conversation and feeling like taking it to the authorities that I do not encourage anything illegally done.
[16:17] but of course
[16:17] to state otherwise would be sheer folly
[16:18] <SLake> ramiles00: Stephen I got you Voice Message
[16:18] <SLake> lll_pllc: I sent no voice message.
[16:18] <SLake> ramiles00: Your sure your didnt call me with the message "Stay out of CHURCH"
[16:18] <SLake> lll_pllc: Mr. Miles I do not even have your number here with me.
[16:18] <SLake> Just in case anyone here missed Mr. Miles attempt to say I called him.
[16:18] what's your point?
[16:19] so he thinks you called him when in actuality, you didn't
[16:19] big deal
[16:19] <SLake> exactly my point.
[16:19] * RAMiles (Ramiles00SPLAT1faf4a71.3fd056b1.cable.rcn.com) has joined #l3
[16:19] <SLake> If I wanted to reach you I would do it in a manner much less noticable.
[16:20] and I ask again, what's your point?
[16:20] <AnthraX101> I'm not sure that I trust a lawyer who is afraid to protect his cliant, and rather encourages others to break the law.
[16:21] <SLake> My point is make sure you know for sure who sent you a message before you go relaying it around the world.
[16:21] but if you didn't send it, then what are you worried about?
[16:21] you're a LAWYER for pete's sake
[16:21] <SLake> I'm not sure I trust a group of people who can't think collectively on what the next best move would be, besides ringing the woman who's uncontrollably violent when she doesn't get her way.
[16:22] so you're here to berate us then?
[16:22] <SLake> I'm not worried. But *if* i sent you something. Don't be ignorant enough to go skywriting it all over the place.
[16:22] <AnthraX101> What group? We are just a bunch of random people, who says we have any coordination?
[16:23] <AnthraX101> Either you want us to act as a group or not, mr lake
[16:23] <SLake> no. I'm here giving you advice to plan your moves more strategically.
[16:23] <SLake> well. Ms. Greenfell said, "I told the group"
[16:23] * enaxor (enaxorSPLAT3ee19918.31478372.ipt.aol.com) has joined #L3
[16:23] <SLake> I can safely assume you're a group then.
[16:23] <AnthraX101> A group cant exist without communication between its members. If you send us info, perhaps you should expect it to be disclosed
[16:24] any gathering of people is a group, Mr. Lake
[16:24] <enaxor> but not all members of a group act as one
[16:25] of course not
[16:25] the "members" of our "group" collaborate in order to help each other and ourselves
[16:26] but there's nothing from stopping someone associated with us from going off and doing their own thing
[16:26] it's not a formal organization or anything
[16:26] <SLake> Maybe that's something that should be done.
[16:27] <enaxor> we can't control what members do
[16:28] <SLake> I wouldn't go so far as to try and control anyone. You all are in the same boat it would seem. Employees or the company I represent. It would behoov you to at least try and think more collectively and act that way if possible would it not?
[16:29] so now you presume to tell us how we should THINK?
[16:29] <SLake> No. I presume nothing about you Mr/Ms Bagsbee.
[16:29] Mr.
[16:29] <SLake> Mr. it is.
[16:31] <SLake> How is it possible that a ragtag hardly affiliated group of employees can to find out so much without some sort of basic level of communication and thinking?
[16:31] back to the berating again
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[16:32] <SLake> I'm using your terms. There's no point in continuing a conversation with you Mr. Bagsbee you seem to want to take offense to everything I say.
[16:33] * enaxor (enaxorSPLAT3ee19918.31478372.ipt.aol.com) has left #L3
[16:33] I should not be offended by being called "ragtag", and told I lack a "basic level of communication and thinking"?
[16:34] <SLake> I've communicated more information that I should have... again... and yet this whatever you call it sits here wanting me to do the work for you or something.
[16:34] I wasn't in earlier chats with you Mr. Lake, but from what I've gathered you've made your point abundantly clear
[16:35] <SLake> ragtag wasn't meant to be offensive. It means loosely affiliated. And you didn't understand my point. I was saying you have come so far with so little effort. Imagine what would happen if you went above the basic level of communication and thinking.
[16:35] <SLake> So I apologize if you took offense to the comment.
[16:36] it's ok, my constitution is hardier than that
[16:36] <SLake> For someone who wasn't here for earlier chats. You certainly are quick to jump down someone's throat.
[16:36] I'm just confused as to what your point is, really
[16:36] <SLake> to be brief.
[16:36] <AnthraX101> If you want something from us, Mr. Lake, then perhaps you should ask, rather then giving us hints and then wondering when we go wrong
[16:36] not your original point, but the point you're trying to make RIGHT NOW
[16:37] <SLake> I don't want anything from you Mr. Anthrax. I never meant to give any impression that I did.
[16:37] <SLake> Marcus sent you to me.
[16:38] <AnthraX101> And you in turn lead us to Mrs. Church
[16:38] <SLake> My point right now would be. If you could harness the various levels intuity, compassion, investigative curiousity... you would be amazed how quickly you found information.
[16:38] * Rasputin42x69 (Rasputin42SPLAT1de2983b.7f8dc.3f38bee0.330f146X) has joined #l3
[16:39] that may be true, but you come off as sounding like we screwed up
[16:39] <dashcat> Can we get back to Alecia Church?
[16:40] <SLake> If any part of your group went crashing through the front door of Ms. Church's life via email, phone calls, personal visits, etc. I would say yes.. the group as a whole screwed up.
[16:40] <SLake> In turn, the groups screwing up (which I initiated) caused a hellfire storm here.
[16:41] <SLake> I didn't appreciate the fact that I stuck my neck out legally for a group of employees who turned around and burned me.
[16:43] <SLake> Hopefully you can understand that.
[16:43] <SLake> If not strile the compassion bit in the point i just recently made.
[16:43] <SLake> strile=strike
[16:43] <Rasputin42x69> I understand it fully.
[16:45] Mr. Lake, suppose I put a sensitve document on my website for a select group of people to see, but it eventually gets disseminated all over the 'net
[16:45] should I blame Google?
[16:46] * Rasputin42x69 (Rasputin42SPLAT1de2983b.7f8dc.3f38bee0.330f146X) Quit (SVSKilled: GHOST command used by Rasputin42x23)
[16:46] <SLake> If any of your colleagues caught more heat than another when I blew up. I'll take the time to apologize. I'm not above making amends.
[16:46] * Rasputin42x69 (Rasputin42SPLAT642f304.7f8dc.3f38bee0.330f146X) has joined #l3
[16:46] *you* put the info out there, and then when it wasn't used in the way you intended, you turn around and insult us?
[16:46] <SLake> No I should blame you for not thinking to put a spider file in your site to prevent it from being indexed.
[16:47] <dashcat> I think that would be a good idea SLake....since that person is considering quitting Ideltach and others are thinking the same
[16:48] <SLake> I can't blame you for not thinking and acting like a puppy with a new chew toy. But you aren't puppies. You're pretty smart people if you were hired by Ideltech.
[16:49] <SLake> I unwittingly assumed people wouldn't go knocking on everydoor looking for clues.
[16:49] ok, and a select few used the information in a way that, in hindsight, may have not been the best way
[16:49] <SLake> Hence my ability to realize my reaction to those few people was harsh.
[16:50] * enaxor (enaxorSPLAT3ee19918.31478372.ipt.aol.com) has joined #L3
[16:50] <Rasputin42x69> Granted, it was that...
[16:51] <SLake> No one has any idea what it's like when the she-devil Ms. Church comes calling at 2 am ranting about emails and lawsuits. You want to see me get angry.. give her a reason to do it again.
[16:52] <SLake> And if you don't like my reactions to your actions, don't come ask me for more information or ask my point as to what you should be doing next.
[16:52] ok no one wants that, honestly
[16:52] <SLake> I'm no braintrust. I'm one guy.
[16:53] but I think the point you are missing is that *you* put the information out there...not *us*, *you*
[16:53] <SLake> I gave you that information in goodwill. That you would use it wisely.
[16:53] <SLake> you = the group
[16:54] and you didn't in any way anticipate what might happen if that info was used wrongly?
[16:54] <SLake> You failed my basic belief that it would be done under the radar.
[16:54] <SLake> Instead you walked in. Hit the fire alarm and wanted to see who came running out.
[16:55] <SLake> Which in turn lead to more than enough phone calls with Ms. Church than I ever cared to have in my lifetime.
[16:55] <enaxor> so we messed up
[16:55] <SLake> She doesn't call her lawyers. She calls ME.
[16:55] when you leak info, you need plausable deniability, and you had none
[16:56] <SLake> Trust me. I know the term. Hence Landau, Luckman, & Lake taking the brunt of the "security" leak regarding this case. Ideltech isn't being mentioned in any of the briefs.
[16:57] <SLake> OE will get a huge settlement when the dust clears.
[16:58] * enaxor is now known as enaxor|bbl
[16:59] * Rasputin42x69 sighs.
[16:59] Mr. Lake, I'm sorry things worked out the way they did, honestly I am
[17:00] hopefully your firm can minimize the damage
[17:00] <SLake> So am I. Question is can you trust me enough to give and receive information?
[17:00] <SLake> The damage isn't a big deal. I believe in the cheesy "fight the good fight" ideals. That's why we leaked it instead of Marcus leaking it.
[17:01] personally I think that remains to be seen, but a better question is do *you* trust *us* enough
[17:01] <Rasputin42x69> Myself, I think this conversation is going in circles. I move that we table this discussion and move on.
[17:01] <SLake> I never completely trust anyone. Not even my dog. I trusted you enough to get a dumb hint to you about OE.
[17:02] <SLake> I'll continue to share what I can as long as it doesn't lead to that psycho calling me.
[17:02] <SLake> Not circles. Spiraling onto itself. It needs to resolve itself before we move on.
[17:03] Mr. Lake, I have to run...it was a pleasure talking to you, hopefully no hard feelings and things will work out
[17:03] <SLake> onto=into
[17:03] * bagsbee (bagsbeeSPLATf5eb36d.52627b1.nyc.rr.com) has left #l3
[17:03] <SLake> So what else do you want to know?
[17:04] <AnthraX101> I think you understand our objections, Mr. Lake, and see where things need to go from here. After all, Ideltech is nothing without its employees, and I don't think any of us want to leave
[17:04] <dashcat> What game does Alecia like to play in Vegas?
[17:04] <SLake> She's a poker fiend.
[17:04] <SLake> 5 card, 7 card, Texas Holdem
[17:05] <SLake> anyone who makes $68,000 playing poker has to be pretty good. Especially when she only plays 3 or 4 times a year.
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[17:05] <dashcat> Do you know her personaly?
[17:05] <SLake> No!
[17:06] <Rasputin42x69> I would hope not. Smile

[17:06] <SLake> She's smart. She's crafty. You can see it in her eyes. And hear it in her voice.
[17:06] <SLake> true story. First time she spoke to Milton he called her the devil.
[17:06] <SLake> Then he pawned her off onto me.
[17:07] <Rasputin42x69> As in "Paradise Lost" Milton? Smile

[17:07] <SLake> no. Milton Landau
[17:08] <Rasputin42x69> Ahh, ok.
[17:08] <SLake> Anything else? I've got another appointment tonight in Tucson. I've got to get packing.
[17:08] <SLake> I can hang out for a bit but I need to have my assistant get me some food.
[17:08] <SLake> Big day tomorrow. I'm speaking at a college graduation.
[17:09] <dashcat> So you have met with her in person tho? You've seen the look in her eyes
[17:09] <SLake> Yes.
[17:09] <Rasputin42x69> Any idea how she holds her family in regards? Her ancestors, specifically?
[17:10] <SLake> I was asked earlier about Benjamin.
[17:10] <SLake> It would seem she hold her bloodline in very high regard
[17:11] <Rasputin42x69> Ah, that makes sense...
[17:12] <Rasputin42x69> Interesting that Benjamin was a traitor...
[17:13] <SLake> one moment. Phone call.
[17:14] <SLake> Depends on who's side you were on I guess.
[17:16] <Rasputin42x69> Heh
[17:16] <SLake> Any other questions?
[17:17] <Rasputin42x69> That's pretty much all I can think of at the moment. Perhaps the others here...?
[17:17] <dashcat> What is her background? Is she ex cia? Murder inc? She is threatening people's lives so she must have some experience
[17:21] <SLake> Another phone call.
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[17:25] <RAMiles> Dash... I am thinking more Mafia
[17:26] <SLake> She's not ex-anything. She practically didn't exist until she reached her senior year of high school.
[17:26] <Rasputin42x69> Interesting...
[17:27] <SLake> The threats concern me. They do. I hate to sound simplistic but the threats sound like empty ones most of the time. If it weren't for the sheer rage I've heard in her voice I would say she's making empty threats.
[17:27] <SLake> But who knows?
[17:27] <dashcat> She has a strange way of doing business...threatening death to those who don't give her what she wants...I woild think the government would be all over her
[17:28] <RAMiles> Steve, what is she using to find info out on us
[17:28] <SLake> She's untouchable when it comes to the federal government. Seriously, just looking at her taxes. Anyone else would be getting audits every year.
[17:28] <Rasputin42x69> Unless she's only a figurehead, so to speak?
[17:28] <SLake> Mr. Miles I have no idea.
[17:29] <SLake> Is it possible one of you is sharing information with her?
[17:29] <RAMiles> none of us
[17:29] <RAMiles> we think its more inside then us
[17:29] <SLake> And or one of you has given her access to TOBI?
[17:29] <Rasputin42x69> We don't have access to TOBI yet.
[17:29] <RAMiles> thats true
[17:30] <RAMiles> It has to someone who got inside access to TOBI from the ground floor
[17:30] <SLake> If you dance with the devil you're going to get burned my grandfather used to say. I hope none of you is flirting with trying to get on her good side just to get more information.
[17:30] <Rasputin42x69> Heh, I'd rather not have any side of her.
[17:31] <SLake> Do you trust Elias?
[17:32] <RAMiles> Why Elias
[17:32] <SLake> He's security.
[17:32] <RAMiles> why not ask if we trust sandy
[17:32] <SLake> He could possible get us a list of who has access to TOBI..
[17:32] <SLake> follow my train of thought therE?
[17:32] <Rasputin42x69> He seems trustworthy thus far... A bit inexperienced, but trustworthy.
[17:32] <RAMiles> true
[17:32] <Rasputin42x69> I follow.
[17:33] <SLake> Mr. Anthrax, you've been awfully quiet...
[17:33] <dashcat> I take someone informed you that Elias said he heard Sandy talking to Alecia?
[17:33] <SLake> a few people relayed that information.
[17:34] <SLake> but since it's hearsay I can't do anything just yet.
[17:34] <AnthraX101> I have said my peace.
[17:34] <SLake> we need some sort of litmus test to find where people stand.
[17:34] <dashcat> But you are keeping an eye on Sandy I hope?
[17:34] <SLake> When I see her. She's very friendly.
[17:34] <SLake> Busy as a bee.
[17:35] <dashcat> She's been accused of being a spy...is no one investigating her?
[17:35] <SLake> I don't believe any official accusation has happened.
[17:35] <SLake> Elias told you(the group) but hasn't approached me.
[17:36] <Rasputin42x69> Hmm, a litmus test... Any suggestions?
[17:36] <SLake> I have no idea if he went to his supervisor regarding Sandy.
[17:36] <dashcat> So why not investigate both of them?
[17:37] <SLake> I have a hard time overstepping my bounds. I've been hired to protect my client. It doesn't mean I have a carte blanch to run around and play columbo.
[17:37] <SLake> Although I think I would be more like Monk.
[17:38] <dashcat> Well I wasn't suggesting YOU do it. Isn't the DOD interested in any of this? Can't Marcus set an investigation in motion?
[17:39] <dashcat> It's possible you have a spy in the company and you have two likely suspects...and no one is doing anything?
[17:40] <SLake> We could contact local authorities... it would shed a ton of bad light on Ideltech. There would be bad press, questions...
[17:40] <dashcat> What about private security agencies?
[17:40] <Rasputin42x69> Thus, it's better to fly under the radar with this.
[17:40] <SLake> If there's a spy why not just steal the information? Why an offer to buy?
[17:41] <dashcat> To cover up their spying
[17:41] <SLake> There's a small security firm that owes me a few favors. I'll see if they can do anything.
[17:41] <RAMiles> Maybe cus whoever isnt after info
[17:41] <SLake> Sounds like an expensive cover up.
[17:42] <dashcat> Offers can be withdrawn
[17:42] <SLake> So it's a smokescreen?
[17:43] <Rasputin42x69> What was her last offer, if I may ask?
[17:43] <dashcat> I really don't know. It's just one possibility
[17:43] <SLake> Before I can bring in the "Pinkertons" I'll have to ask Marcus.
[17:44] <SLake> What's the group focused on right now if I may ask?
[17:44] <SLake> The last offer was SELL or else.
[17:46] <Rasputin42x69> I think right now we're all focused on getting as much info on her as we can, particuarily how she can harm Ideltech.
[17:47] <RAMiles> She seems to have heavy connections if she can pulls peoples info just like that
[17:47] <Rasputin42x69> Pretty much what you intended, before things went to hell.
[17:48] <SLake> I don't like the idea of going to the Feds. She's protected somehow. If I turn that way she'll know it before the end of the day I imagine.
[17:48] <Rasputin42x69> I gathered that. She seems to be at least a bit above the law.
[17:48] <SLake> Someone said Marcus hinted that her login was pretty easily guessed?
[17:48] <Rasputin42x69> Yes.
[17:49] <SLake> Well. What's been tried?
[17:49] <RAMiles> I tried the usuall
[17:49] <RAMiles> God and Password
[17:49] <RAMiles> and AChurch and Password
[17:49] <SLake> password cracking for a witch like that can't be all too hard...
[17:49] <Rasputin42x69> I've tried a few poker terms, her birthdate, etc.
[17:49] <SLake> How do we know AChurch is her username?
[17:50] <SLake> Do we have a list of all permutations?
[17:50] <RAMiles> Guessing she used something simple
[17:50] <Rasputin42x69> Truth be told, we don't.
[17:50] <RAMiles> I am thinking her Password maybe something personal
[17:50] <Rasputin42x69> The username IS a part of the puzzle, I guess.
[17:51] <RAMiles> you have any suggestions steve
[17:51] <SLake> back when I clerked in Houston. We had naming conventions for everything. Usernames, computers, printers..
[17:52] <SLake> what kind of machine is it?
[17:52] <RAMiles> Nameing conventions???
[17:52] <Rasputin42x69> BRB, nicotine fix.
[17:52] <SLake> yeah
[17:52] <SLake> first name last name
[17:52] <SLake> first initial last name
[17:52] <RAMiles> ahh
[17:54] <SLake> Time for me to pack it in.
[17:54] <RAMiles> so it could be first inital lastname bdate
[17:54] <SLake> doesn't do us any good if it's case sensitive usernames and passwords though and we don't track what's been tried.
[17:55] <SLake> heh. that is.. if it was legal to try.
[17:55] <dashcat> AleciaC is what she uses on her email
[17:55] <SLake> I guess more importantly if you forgot your own username and password for a computer you'd at least want to make sure you listed all the ones you tried.
[17:56] <Rasputin42x69> Of course.
[17:58] <SLake> I'll be in on sunday to check messages and email.
[17:59] <SLake> If I get the feeling I can trust certain people here. I might let you call me and update me.
[17:59] <Rasputin42x69> Gotcha. Have fun on your trip!
[17:59] <RAMiles> take it easy have fun
[17:59] <SLake> Never given a commencement speech before.
[17:59] <dashcat> Bye
[17:59] <dashcat> Good luck
[18:00] <RAMiles> yah good luck
[18:00] <SLake> thanks.
[18:00] * SLake (~Dur@296d6466.1c25dec6.cyberpass.net) Quit (Quit: )
[18:01] <Rasputin42x69> Well, that was interesting..
[18:02] * Rasputin42x69 is now known as R[a]sputin42x69
[18:23] * R[a]sputin42x69 (Rasputin42SPLAT36cd2766.7f8dc.3f38bee0.330f146X) has left #l3

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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 6:37 pm

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Here is a chat I had with Stephen Lake earlier today. Sorry I didn't post it sooner. I had to leave and just got back. Please don't tell that I shared. Wink

Quote:

enaxoro: is there nothing more you can tell us about alecia church?
lll_pllc: What else might you want to know?
enaxoro: just any background info you may have
enaxoro: I already know about her great great great great grandfater and a few other grandfathers she had
enaxoro: how about her education
enaxoro: any interests she has, besides spying
lll_pllc: let me open up the files.
enaxoro: thanks
lll_pllc: please forgive me. I'm not being rude I'm being inundated.
enaxoro: I'll wait
lll_pllc: Alecia Josephine Church Born May 31, 1968
enaxoro: good info thanks
lll_pllc: I don't show where she did her schooling but she has a degree from Stanford.. it's duel degree Economics and Business.
enaxoro: Big question....
enaxoro: Do you want us to try and crack her login?
lll_pllc: I cannot tell you to do anything of that sort as legal counsel for your employer. As I just explained to Mr. Anthrax101
enaxoro: ah, so it is up to us to interupt that
enaxoro: Do you know what sort of hobbies or interests she likes?
lll_pllc: You obviously know of her grt grt grandfather Benjamin by now.
enaxoro: Dr Benjamin, the poet turned traitor?
lll_pllc: Yes.
enaxoro: I think he was more like her great great great grandfather
lll_pllc: Well of course but I didn't feel the need to type it that many times.
enaxoro: heh
lll_pllc: Did you know Ms. Church has logged several trips to Vegas?
lll_pllc: Seems she quite an established poker player.
enaxoro: really....that's interesting
enaxoro: she likes texas hold em
lll_pllc: I don't know what she prefers to play but she's earned enough to have to file her earnings in taxes.
lll_pllc: 68,000 last year.
lll_pllc: and a sticky not in the back of the folder says she was once during college a nationally ranked chess champion.
enaxoro: you are a wealth of information
lll_pllc: L3 investigative team makes Scotland Yard look like rent a cop.
enaxoro: maybe something in there will help us with our little puzzle
enaxoro: that's good to know
lll_pllc: I'd love to share the entire folder full of stuff with you but who knows who'll run off and let her know we have her SSN.
enaxoro: I was going to ask for that, since you have a copy of her tax return
enaxoro: but I didn't suppose you'd give it out
enaxoro: Okay I'll ask anyway.....Can you tell me her SSN?
lll_pllc: Sorry. If i felt it was something useful I'd give it.
lll_pllc: Can't have you or someone else running off and doing identity theft. LOL
enaxoro: lol
enaxoro: anything else you can think of that might be useful?

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