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brettoniasam · Unfettered Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 340

so...any lip-readers in the house?

**Posted:** Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:47 pm

mjames · Boot Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Posts: 64

It does sound like someone edited the sound... although I think instead of going for lip reading, we need someone to check for layers of sound (much like what was done with the original trailer). I don't even think that can be done with a quicktime format film, but if someone with a tad more video experience (i'm a light and sound tech, but not viedo) could take a crack at it, that would be awesome.

I agree with the whore idea, although in a movie like this I figure there would be alot of "Holy Shit"'s and "Oh Fuck"s... so i don't see why they would choose to edit something that only ARGers would see unless "they" were covering up a clue... Whore is definetly not a clue...

**Posted:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:25 am

McPhearson · Decorated Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 288

I wonder if, just like a soldier's letters being checked for possible operational giveaways, Tagruato (or whomever Teddy works for) is editing the film to keep Jamie from giving something away.

I have a deaf cousin, and I learned to enunciate like a mother. I'll watch the video, see what I come up with.

**Posted:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:32 am

brettoniasam · Unfettered Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 340

If she *is* saying "whore," my theory behind it is pretty mundane, but logical:

...It could be Marlena that edited it with the "cornbread" comment.

As a joke. And when Jamie finds out Marlena's been going thru her private videos to Teddy -- and editing them -- the proverbial feces will hit the fan.

**Posted:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:35 am

McPhearson · Decorated Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 288

It could be "whore", but from what I saw... I turned the volume down, and it looked as if she said "core" or "coral" (I don't know where you guys are getting that its ONE syllable).

Nevertheless, I went to coral.jp, and it was all Japanese.

Core.jp doesn't exist.

Core.com is just an internet provider.

But when I went to coral.com, I took me to the homepage of the Coral Chemical Company. Honestly, it may just be a coincedence. But still, it's worth a look.

**Posted:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:47 am

Dr. Awkward

Does actually seem like a two syllable word other than "cornbread".
She lips more like a R, like coral, than a B for bread...

Aura... Dunno

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mjames · Boot Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Posts: 64

Well, i like the train of thought. I'm going to check those out (although it seems to me that those would be sites that would already have existed before cloverfield since coral is a common word).

The reason i was saying "one-syllable" is because her mouth never closes, which shows it can't be "cornbread", because to say cornbread you have to close your lips for the "buh" sound.

**Posted:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:05 am

CloverfieldClues.com · Entrenched Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 757

**Posted:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:06 am

ajaw · Boot Joined: 12 Sep 2007 Posts: 14

I don't know about the word "whore", say it yourself, there isn't much lip movement associated with the sounds other than the "o" sound. it seems more like the word ends in an "aw" or "ow" sound as her mouth is open at the end of the word. I also wouldn't rule out more than one syllable, Americans (especially drunk ones Wink

) often slur words a bit (like towel becomes "towl") though it would be really unfair of the pm's if this is a real clue to do that...

**Posted:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:06 am

McPhearson · Decorated Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 288

**Posted:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:13 am

SlushoLover · Veteran Joined: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 97

Still thinking it's "whale" she's saying... Wink

**Posted:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:27 am

lestat5891work

To me, it seems like the QT video is just of such crappy framerate and quality that she's saying "cornbread" but her lips read otherwise due to a slow capture or something. Her lips really aren't synched throughout the whole video.

**Posted:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:04 am

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brettoniasam · Unfettered Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 340

Funny, I don't have any problem with framerate or "jumpy" film at all. Are you guys using the DOWNLOADED version, or are you watching the streaming version on the actual site?

Because when I watch it, there's no problem with the lip-synching and dubbing at all -- except for the "whore" part. It looks painfully, blatantly obvious...the fact that she leans forward and slowly enunciates into the camera make it pretty clear that the PMs were making a point of saying, "Oh, look! She's really NOT saying 'cornbread'!"

**Posted:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:33 am

CloverfieldClues.com · Entrenched Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 757

CORNBREAD is the new IT'S A LION Screwy

**Posted:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:13 am

deletia

I don't mean to discourage anyone from investigating this, but I'm throwing my two cents in with Dennis. It's just too obscure. If it is dubbed over, she could be saying just about anything. Perhaps something will come of this later, as brettoniasam suggested, but I can't imagine it's worth investigating right now.

**Posted:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:48 am