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Kingpin
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dalphx wrote:
Anyone know the name of the bldg in the trailer when they come out outside and the roar comes its to the far left of the screen, somethin rub I think, written on a awning, tried pausing but its blurry. Looks like they are on Broadway...think they are on the roof of that "six times" square bldg when the explosion happens.


Well, the building Lady Liberty's head hits is 401 Broadway, and the building behind it with the glowing spire is the Woolworth Building.

However they can't be in 6 Times Square because that's right up at 1466 Broadway, for a better idea of the distance 401 is at Broadway and Walker street whilst 6 Times Square is at Broadway and West 42nd Street which is about 49 blocks from Times Square. Sad
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Jon8907 wrote:
Step the fuck off.
I think the few people in this forum that aren't totally paranoid can see by now that this game is going to be around 80% handed to us over time 20% player discovery.


I see where your comin' from...

But I'd gage the ratios at more like 55% handed to us over time, 45% player discovery.

I'm curious what nenya, Lasher, and Mr.Toasty, to name a few, are thinkin'...
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brettoniasam wrote:
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*groan* Did you ever stop to wonder if judging people for making a mistake about something that's actually valid to the story (tagruato's site) is just a bit hypocritical when you're one of those kids who spent the last 3 months arguing over whether it's "t's alive, it's huge" was really "it's a lion, it's huge"? Ok. Let's see. Tagruato is a story influencing website. Really, in all honesty-- does whatever that kid mumbled in the trailer actually make a difference? Seriously? If so, how?

Step the fuck off.

I think the few people in this forum that aren't totally paranoid can see by now that this game is going to be around 80% handed to us over time 20% player discovery.


I assume that missive was directed at me, and not Dennis (Cloverfieldclues), so here ya go, Jon:

1) I haven't been a "kid" for going on 24 years now. But thanks for complimenting a 41-year old in that manner.
2) It's okay for Dennis to judge and ridicule me for offering an opinion and a theory, but when I remind him that since he famously posted on his blog that Tagruato.jp was OOG (if he was wrong once....), that's NOT okay?

Who's being the hypocrite here, Jon?
"Step the fuck off," indeed. Who taught you to talk like that: Eminem, Fred Durst or Vanilla Ice? Very Happy


1) Even better, a 41 year old that acts like a kid! You do have this aura of youthful pettiness about you though.
2) You're missing the point, though. It's like arguing over who's *more* wrong. Totally pointless. And besides that I'd much rather hear a debate over the validity of a website that is as important to the story as tagruato.jp is than a relatively unimportant phrase that almost everyone has a different interpretation of.

And good job calling me out on telling you to "step the fuck off", God knows there's no possible way I could put those 4 words together without hearing it from some washed out celebrity.

Dr. Awkward: You might be right.. I'm more of a sideliner anyway, but it seems like the only time we get information is when they want us to have it. No?

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Jon8907 wrote:
brettoniasam wrote:
Jon8907 wrote:
*groan* Did you ever stop to wonder if judging people for making a mistake about something that's actually valid to the story (tagruato's site) is just a bit hypocritical when you're one of those kids who spent the last 3 months arguing over whether it's "t's alive, it's huge" was really "it's a lion, it's huge"? Ok. Let's see. Tagruato is a story influencing website. Really, in all honesty-- does whatever that kid mumbled in the trailer actually make a difference? Seriously? If so, how?

Step the fuck off.

I think the few people in this forum that aren't totally paranoid can see by now that this game is going to be around 80% handed to us over time 20% player discovery.


I assume that missive was directed at me, and not Dennis (Cloverfieldclues), so here ya go, Jon:

1) I haven't been a "kid" for going on 24 years now. But thanks for complimenting a 41-year old in that manner.
2) It's okay for Dennis to judge and ridicule me for offering an opinion and a theory, but when I remind him that since he famously posted on his blog that Tagruato.jp was OOG (if he was wrong once....), that's NOT okay?

Who's being the hypocrite here, Jon?
"Step the fuck off," indeed. Who taught you to talk like that: Eminem, Fred Durst or Vanilla Ice? Very Happy


1) Even better, a 41 year old that acts like a kid! You do have this aura of youthful pettiness about you though.
2) You're missing the point, though. It's like arguing over who's *more* wrong. Totally pointless. And besides that I'd much rather hear a debate over the validity of a website that is as important to the story as tagruato.jp is than a relatively unimportant phrase that almost everyone has a different interpretation of.

And good job calling me out on telling you to "step the fuck off", God knows there's no possible way I could put those 4 words together without hearing it from some washed out celebrity.

Dr. Awkward: You might be right.. I'm more of a sideliner anyway, but it seems like the only time we get information is when they want us to have it. No?


Eh, I hate stepping into arguments, but this is rediculous.

It's a game for a movie.

Think about it.

John, you did approach him a little harsh for just making a comment, and age should be unimportant in any debate. It's useless to criticize someone for acting immaturely when the very argument is immature. Also remember that in this particular game, anything is open to debate. We get sometimes very vague clues and it is still too early in the ARG to tell if something will develop importance later. While Tagruato might be more important right now (and in my opinion later), it doesn't mean that since someome compared them that they are ultimately wrong.

Brettoniasam, as a kid, I can also tell you that it doesn't take a genius to put those words together :-p. I support your right to offer theories on alternate wording which might be a future clue or of importance, but it is in my personal opinion that when you are discussing something on your topic, it is uneeded to switch the blame. This is your theory you are talking about, and defending. If someone else ridicules it and challenges it, challenge them back with proof and ideas, not by pointing out their personal faults (unless they attacked you personally, which I do not believe he did).

Eh, don't flame me for what I posted, just take it into consideration and remember: It's a game for a movie.

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 		I get what you're saying.

I'm not into dragging people into arguements. I just really sense a lot of unneccessary thought-bashing in here and it's annoying when people make fun of other ideas to prop up their own arguements.

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 		Can't we all just get along...
I'll pass out some brownies...
Brownie Brownie Brownie Brownie Brownie Brownie Brownie Brownie
Now if your neighbor doesn't have one, don't forget to share...

Brett…don't let the man getcha down…you conjur some thoughtful concepts Wink

Jon8907 wrote:
Dr. Awkward: You might be right.. I'm more of a sideliner anyway, but it seems like the only time we get information is when they want us to have it. No?


Yes jon…it would seem we are the marionettes…and they are the PM's

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Eh, don't flame me for what I posted, just take it into consideration and remember: It's a game for a movie.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
How dare you Flaming Nutter
this is NOT some sort of fuckin' game...a gaddam monstaz gonna attack NYC soon … we gotsta stop it!!! J/K Very Happy



Dennis and Brett are big boys…they'll hash out this lover's quarrel (right fellas Wink )

Can't we all just get along…and back on topic Very Happy
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 		"six. six times." We can plug this phrase into MANY questions and get the answer SIX TIMES. Maybe Teddy is a Bulls fan.

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 		I just have a feeling that the video message is supposed to be a guide or comments regarding the ARG...

It´s a perfect way to communicate (though it´s one-way communication) with those who take part in the 'game'... why not disguise the help or information by making it directed towards Teddy (in-game), but the undertones of the 'speak' made by Jamie is directed toward the gamers..

The video on jamieandteddy.com could be dubbed using voice-over in post-production to fit the progress of the game.. seeing the new video was like watching some japanese martial arts movie being dubbed in english..

Six, Cornbread and the date are clues, hints, help or announcements for the 'players'... they stick out and nearly screams as being hints, though I must admit that Cornbread doesn´t make alot of sense so far Crying or Very sad

What really bugs me is the number six ... Shocked

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Jon8907 wrote:
I just really sense a lot of unneccessary thought-bashing in here and it's annoying when people make fun of other ideas to prop up their own arguements.


It's easy to sense it when it smacks you in the face repeatedly upon every visit. There's a few who think their word is gospel and no one else should speak until spoken to - sometimes not even then. Just remember: Any man can talk, but a wise man also listens...

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 		Eh, I'm not one to get embroiled in flamewars anyway...

...and despite what Dennis might think, I've actually ALWAYS been a fan of cloverfieldclues.com. Over on IMDB, since Day One, I've been offering cloverfieldclues.com and unfiction as, hands down, THE best, most intelligent, and most fair 'n' balanced (urgh...hate to use that phrase, though: Damn you, Fox News Channel) storehouses of Cloverfield info out there.

I just think it's a little premature to throw away the "cornbread" comment as non-essential. It IS a clue -- whether or not it's a red herring is a different story. But the PMs definitely make a point of drawing attention to a really nonsensical word that has no apparent connection to anything else in the storyline, and seem to make a point of drawing attention to the way Jamie sloooowly enunnnnnciates a word that wouldn't look remotely like "cornbread" even with the BEST of kung-fu dubs.

And my theory about it is VERY simple and mundane enough, requiring no "it's a lion! ...must be VOLTRON" leaps of illogic to follow -- to wit: Marlena is sticking her nose into her roommate's business, snooping through her personal videos, and trying to sabotage Jamie's relationship with Teddy.

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 		i don't understand just because out of one out of place word, you automatically think theres a clue there.

What about the harmonica playing. theres deffinately something out of the ordinary there.

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What about the harmonica playing. theres deffinately something out of the ordinary there.


OMG Quick! Someone identify the song!

(Actually shes just playing a fanfare announcing her arrival I'm sure.. Ta Da, Its Me! being a bit silly/drunk)

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i don't understand just because out of one out of place word, you automatically think theres a clue there.

What about the harmonica playing. theres deffinately something out of the ordinary there.


Well, let's see:

a) She says, "The answer YOU got wrong is..." Meaning there's a question there from Teddy. And we question the question: i.e., just exactly what did Jamie ask Teddy?
b) and she whispers the answer. Why? Must be something dirty, or secret -- something that has to be shielded from the "virgin" ears of her roommate Marlena and/or "15 horny girls downstairs," right?
c) and the answer she whispers is: "....cornbread." ....huh???

All that build-up...and the survey says: "CORNBREAD!"

....uh...yeah.

So. Explain to me thees, seenor: (to anyone who thinks "cornbread" WASN'T tossed out there as an OBVIOUS, HIT-EM-OVER-THE-HEAD-WITH-IT clue) why go to all the trouble of even mentioning it? It's like setting up a joke without a punchline -- the writer(s) give you an unnamed question from Jamie to Teddy, point out that Teddy missed the answer, and the answer is so secret that Jamie has to whisper it, and the dub is so far off the mark it makes 70s kung-fu flicks look on-target...

...so please -- by all means. Explain why the writer built all that up if it wasn't important.

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 		I don't think people are disputing the fact that Cornbread *might* be a clue. Why the hell not? Same goes for "six times" and what's in the blue box. I just don't buy in to the conspiracy that she's not actually saying cornbread... and that someone would have edited her video to "censor" her by dubbing in the word cornbread (using her own voice!) in a effort to "coverup" something else.

I know that Cornbread-gate is your theory, but you don't need to take criticisms so personally.


In my defense about the whole Tagruato thing... I was out of town the day that was found. When I read through the six or so pages here about the site, and how it was found, the evidence was shaky IMO, and nobody seemed to question any of the inconsistencies with the site. If you actually read my post, instead of quotes from people here saying "CC thinks it's OOG", you would have seen that it was done very "tongue-in-cheek".

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brettoniasam wrote:
b) and she whispers the answer. Why? Must be something dirty, or secret -- something that has to be shielded from the "virgin" ears of her roommate Marlena and/or "15 horny girls downstairs," right?


Or... just something she doesn't want Marlena to know, doesn't have to be dirty.

That said, on the subject of video tampering I don't think they're insinuating Marlena has been meddling with Jamie's videos, because:

1) To what purpose?
2) For the very reason you mentioned above, why go to all the trouble?

As for the importance, it seems people are trying to put together the whole puzzle without the instructions, this is only the second video... it may be more productive to wait until a good few more are out then we can look back at them as a whole.

Cornbread and six may be significant, but they're only from part two of what surely would be a series (if npt, why did they bother making them at all, right?)
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