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[Melampus]

I leave for a day and miss all the fun!

Just wanted to add one observation: we're pretty sure that the PM's are monitoring this forum - if nothing else, it's easy feedback for their marketing efforts, and also to check on our progress in figuring things out, etc. Assuming that's true, then they HAD to know that there was a lot of interest in that photobucket account a while back - people talked at length about trying to hack it. So, they knew that we knew about the account and that at least some people were intent on 'getting in.' NOW, couple that with the lame password: paramount.

My point is: if they didn't want anyone to have access to that PB account, if getting in would screw up their carefully laid plans, then they would have made the password more difficult. Knowing people are trying to get access to the account and then making (or leaving) the password as "paramount" seems like an open door, doesn't it?

[Euchre]

[MrToasty]

Here's one, I'll see if I have the others.

[Kraker]

[MrToasty]

And the rest...

[SlushoLover]

[Kraker]

[Euchre]

I think Kraker hit on the right idea when mentioning that the WBM has multiple versions. Google's cache doesn't do that by design, so any reverse reference there is ephemeral, and thus not much to worry about blocking. The WBM would be worth blocking, so a more site specific block would make more sense. Many large companies with time sensitive or copyright oriented materials request that IA does not cache it's content on the WBM. That's another thing, you don't have to block it from your end - you can just ask the IA to not cache your content from their end.

[Kraker]

Well, if anyone is interested, here is the only documented version of a website I could find on the WBM:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070711120505/http://www.slusho.jp/

It's what slusho was like july 11th

I'm assuming that since it was the first, the creators quickly came to their senses and realized that the wayback machine could give an unfair advantage to the players, so they decided to get their future sites blocked.

That is my theory.

[human]

[jojo]

Sorry I missed all this...

I have two questions-

1) Is it likely that a PM would be monitoring the site on a Saturday evening? Are these guys independent contractors who sit at home and program when they feel like it and have, like, little alarms that go off when someone messes with a site, or is it like a 9-5 office job? It just seems a little odd because most of the updates (and definitely all the MySpace work) has been done on weekdays during normal working hours, so I'm wondering if the fact that this didn't happen during that time period makes it more likely to be a Unfictioneer or someone else messing with us. In other words, Sat night seems like prime time for a bored teen to hack into a site & have some fun, not for a company of probably 20-30somethings to be sitting at work.

[Kraker]

[jojo]

Sorry, one more quick question - what exactly did the first message say (the one that was like "don't hack into this") - does anyone have a screengrab or remember it? I didn't see this info when I went back through the threads.

Asking because I'd like to put it here: here

[Dr. Awkward]

[Melampus]

A thread entitled "sarahnettleute Password Thread" was started on Aug. 3, by da_pope. There are 44 posts - according to the posts in that thread:

1. there was a sarahnettleute myspace account that got deleted just about as soon as people found it (which was within hours, I think, of finding the Slusho 7 myspace pages).

2. the photobucket account was NOT initially password protected - it became password protected only after some unfiction people had been there and looked at the photos (that photo that is now Doc Awk's icon/avatar wasn't there, though).

My point is: we can rule out any possibility of Dr. Awkward "just messing with us" on this one, as in... The Colbyrook Incident (cue dramatic music). If Doc Awk had reported just finding the photobucket account and guessing the password, then yeah, it'd be very suspicious, but that account has been around for a long time.

I like the Doc Awk = PM idea - that's exciting. Doc Awk did find the Vernon MacDooble articles; but, then again, Doc Awk was also one of the people who initially applauded colbyrook for the 'find' that was the b.s. Rob message. IMO, Dr. Awkward has been a good contributor to this forum... but, not that good. I think the chances Doc Awk is a PM are slim to none.

I think Doc Awk stumbled on the password just as reported. The fact that the PM's responded so quickly on a Saturday, though - that is weird (as you pointed out a few posts back, jojo). But, I don't think any of that has anything to do with Dr. Awkward. If Dr. Awkward is a PM, then...

"Do you think my methods are unsound, Willard?"
"I don't see any method at all, sir."
- Sheen & Brando, Apocalypse Now