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[SPEC] Dead-End Boneyard - Leaps of faith and other random..
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Animaniac
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 		This one was bugging me:

I had googled 'I'm glad if I don't see you' and found this flikr link:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hrstuks/931943032/

The same pic is there, with a note 'lifted off someone on myspace'
The only 'tag' on the phote is 'clue'

The next two pictures are a pic of bush w/ Monsterous superimposed over him and 'Anagram, a work in progress' with the anagram "a transponder north sun"

Besides, possibly the above, there is no indication in his profile or comments that connects him to the ARG/ARE or even that he is aware of it. The rest of the posted pictures are seemingly unrelated sketches/photos

I think a fan or player would have described the picture more than 'off someone' but I don't see the logical connection back to the game of it was..

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:31 pm
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Animaniac wrote:
This one was bugging me:

I had googled 'I'm glad if I don't see you' and found this flikr link:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hrstuks/931943032/

The same pic is there, with a note 'lifted off someone on myspace'
The only 'tag' on the phote is 'clue'

The next two pictures are a pic of bush w/ Monsterous superimposed over him and 'Anagram, a work in progress' with the anagram "a transponder north sun"

Besides, possibly the above, there is no indication in his profile or comments that connects him to the ARG/ARE or even that he is aware of it. The rest of the posted pictures are seemingly unrelated sketches/photos

I think a fan or player would have described the picture more than 'off someone' but I don't see the logical connection back to the game of it was..


I'm fairly sure what you posted is 00G

as for the guy, he stands out to me more than the other pictures, but he hasn't been develloped on in any way, shape, or form, so i can only conclude he is unimportant.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:37 pm
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jojo wrote:
The whole Slusho! history page drives me nuts. I swear there's a clue in there somewhere.... the exclamation points, the odd language and word choice, the pattern of filled cups on the bottom, the donkey/fish/octopus and hammer/mitten/cheese craziness, the temperamental crab, the "twins". There's just too much weirdness going on, even for a "Japanese" site. I've wasted hours of time on it though, to no avail. Crying or Very sad


Me too. Bang Head

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Kraker wrote:
Animaniac wrote:
This one was bugging me:

I had googled 'I'm glad if I don't see you' and found this flikr link:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hrstuks/931943032/

The same pic is there, with a note 'lifted off someone on myspace'
The only 'tag' on the phote is 'clue'

The next two pictures are a pic of bush w/ Monsterous superimposed over him and 'Anagram, a work in progress' with the anagram "a transponder north sun"

Besides, possibly the above, there is no indication in his profile or comments that connects him to the ARG/ARE or even that he is aware of it. The rest of the posted pictures are seemingly unrelated sketches/photos

I think a fan or player would have described the picture more than 'off someone' but I don't see the logical connection back to the game of it was..


I'm fairly sure what you posted is 00G

as for the guy, he stands out to me more than the other pictures, but he hasn't been develloped on in any way, shape, or form, so i can only conclude he is unimportant.

Ironic that image is brought up today, and now it's gone.
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Oniduo
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 		Its not a octopus its a jelly fish it looks like? possibly a Pelagia panopyra?

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Finch
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jojo wrote:
There's just too much weirdness going on, even for a "Japanese" site.

I'm not sure I agree with that. They have a very loud and garrish way of advertising in Japan. If you've ever seen the commercial Arnold Schwarzenegger did for a Japanese company for air on Japanese TV you would probably change your definition of the word "weird". If anything I think how Slusho.jp was made was brilliant. At least they did more homework for Japanese advertising then they did for current uses of paraffin, lol.

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 		I still wanna know more about that "1981-2004 ACE" graffitti.

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Oniduo wrote:
Its not a octopus its a jelly fish it looks like? possibly a Pelagia panopyra?


Jellyfish do not have two large eyes and binocular vision. Looks like a violet color cartoon octopus always headed west. The purple thing is like a manta ray covering its crotch, not that that makes any sense. Not that much of Abrams' mold-collecting mess in all of this is making much sense either.

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 		Jellyfish or octopus?
Yeah, I actually tend think its a jellyfish too, but I just posted my vent rather hastily. It's really hard to tell at this point -- it does have 4 legs from a one sided view, which suggests that it might be an octopus, but it could be a jellyfish too?? I dunno... does anyone remember what it's named in the Flash program?

I thought people were leaning towards jellyfish because it has the double-letter thing (like haMMer, miTTen, chEEse, etc)?

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 		Hey Eonblue
I was rewarded for clicking on Dabbit?!?!?!?!?!
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 		Re: Hey Eonblue
pegassissy wrote:
I was rewarded for clicking on Dabbit?!?!?!?!?!


Yes indeed. The dabbit is your friend.

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 		The Watchmen & Teddy's "gift"
I'm still clinging to my plane ticket idea. So, here's a renewed argument, to see if it holds any water; and, also, a theory about the whole kit & kaboodle...

The gift Teddy sent to Jamie is a plane ticket, to come spend her birthday with Teddy, wherever he is.
- Only Jamie and Beth directly state their birthdays (on their myspace blogs). On her blog, Jamie says she shares a b-day with Jesus; so, they know that we know that her B-day is Dec. 25th. And, "Don't open until Dec. 9th" is odd, if nothing else, because it's a long way off, but also oddly close to her b-day. If your b-day was on, say, June 25th, and your long-distance lover sent you a gift in early March w/instructions not to open until June 9th... wouldn't you wonder about that? Why not just say "To be opened on your birthday"? Or, in Jamie's case, "Don't open until X-mas." The only thing we've been specifically told about Jamie that relates to a date in December is her birthday, so the connection seems relatively glaring.

There could certainly be other explanations, but a plane ticket would explain the odd proximity w/her b-day.
- It's early enough that Jamie probably wouldn't have made firm plans w/anyone, so he can still surprise her without making her life difficult - she prob. wouldn't have made other plans or travel arrangemens for X-mas as early as the 9th. It serves as a b-day and X-mas present, so he didn't make any gaff by apparently forgetting that her B-day is Dec. 25th. Given how crazy she is about missing him, it's the perfect gift.

Now, to spice things up, if Jamie does go on a trip to visit Teddy for X-mas (and maybe New Years), then perhaps when she comes back, she unwittingly brings something back w/her that draws the monster to NYC. That would work with the date of the attack being Jan. 18. I know it sounds kinda silly, but in keeping w/the general idea that Teddy is using her as a guinea pig somehow, but also explaining why he uses Jamie (rather than any random person, wherever he happens to be): Teddy is involved with Tagruato, Slusho, or just some very wealthy and powerful group that hatched a plan similar to that found in The Watchmen, which was:

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To cause a sudden, short-lived (overnight) disaster involving some totally unknown and non-human cause, e.g., a monster/alien attack on NYC. The idea is that this will galvanize the otherwise fractured global powers; by uniting them against a common and totally unknown enemy/threat. Given the state of the world these days, it's not totally implausible to imagine some group of scientists, scholars, and gen. Illuminati type people thinking that this could actually work, and that the cost of the one-night disaster would be worth the result: saving humanity from destroying itself. Note, though, that such a plan hinges on the source/cause of the disaster being something totally unknown and non-human - that's essential, if it's going to unite human leaders in a common struggle against something that isn't just more human leaders. Also, it's got to be a pretty big disaster; that way, it need only happen once to keep humanity paranoid forever; or, at least, long enough to mend the rifts between cultures and establish a truly global government/community

That was the idea in the Watchmen, anyway, and Rob recently asked Hud if he wasn't allowed to play along w/Hud's 'game' until he had read the Watchmen.

So, Teddy invites Jamie on this trip - and, of course, she's giddy about it. But, he's inviting her as part of the big plan, she's going to be the 'bait' for the monster (somehow). There are surely other ways we could dream up getting the monster to NYC, but this one would work just as well. It could have been anyone from NYC, someone who could visit some place away from NYC just before the attack (to get 'marked' w/whatever is going to attract the monster), but for reasons that won't ever raise any suspicion; it just happened to be Jamie. (and, didn't we hear somewhere that Jamie was the first to be killed by the monster?)

The reason I like this idea is that it would allow for the movie to have NO explanation at all about the origin of the monster; b/c the world has no idea where it came from. That's the key to the 'plan' working. So, the movie is "insane and intense" because it seems real, and we don't know squat about where the thing came from or why it's there; it's just a roller coaster ride of mayhem and destruction. Then, once the night is over and the monster is gone (somehow), the movie ends with an epilogue of news footage the following day, w/reporters all basically asking "WTF?" but also world leaders holding press conferences saying how they are going to put aside their grievances, etc. UN committees are immediately formed; international cooperation is seen rising to an unprecedented, nay miraculous, level, etc. etc. For the people watching the movie, but not doing anything on line, it will be an amazing monster movie, and one w/an ironically optimistic ending.

Meanwhile, the real truth behind it all will be discovered here, online, before and/or after the movie is released.

Whaddya think? [I've been falling behind in keeping up w/all the threads; if something like this was mentioned before, my apologies. If that's the case, I hope I at least added some new reasons to entertain this line of thought].

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 		Wow! Surprised
It's really well thought out.
But why?:
1. would Teddy do that to someone he cares about
2. would JJ skirt so close to the basis of a movie in production right now, he's not been the type of guy to ride other peoples coat-tails for ideas.
3. would Teddy even know there was a creature? If the creature was active when he sent the plane ticket, wouldn't it have made some type of impact in the space of time between video 2 and Dec. 9th? How could anything that destructive be controlled?
Just asking.
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 		All good questions, Hurley.

1. We don't know Teddy cares about Jamie at all. All we know is that Jamie is crazy about him.

2. Watchmen is very different from this movie - the only common point I'm suggesting is the general idea of causing some disaster to unite the world against an unknown threat. That's general enough that I don't think it counts as JJ riding on someone else's coat-tails for ideas. I mean, the whole thing (ARG, hand-held camera monster movie, etc.) is pretty damn revolutionary!

3. This stuff is up in the air right now. Teddy may or may not know about a monster or any grand plan, depending on his position within "the group." The creature could be out in the ocean somewhere - active, but relatively contained, or just not prone to going anywhere outside its natural habitat. And, they could "control" just by knowing that it will only live for so long once on land, but that it won't be able to resist venturing inland; or, having some ability to recall the creature, or just kill it 'by remote.' Dunno.

But, it would have to be a real, biological creature - if it dies in NYC (Rather than just vanishing back into the sea), then it will be picked apart with meticulous detail - can't have anything in there to trace it back to anyone, so nothing artificial. That's all I got for now.

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