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Red Walrus
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W-Three wrote:
Well, I have to say:

A) That picture that supposedly looks like a minotaur, to me looks nothing like one. Any chance someone could highlight where they see these horns?

B) Im inclined to believe that the OP is in fact lying, its nothing personal but a few things (to me) don't add up.

1) They appear very unsure, giving rather vague answers and not knowing alot about objects used in movies.
2) The red shirt gag and the phrase "Is that a minotaur?", seem a bit odd. The red shirt gag fits in slightly, but not entirely. As the star trek gag was the main group would take one extra person, who was wearing a red shirt, he died. However, this person was not only with someone else, but wasn't with the main crew, so in that respect it seems out of place. As for the "Is that a minotaur?" comment, it seems very...well odd. Two characters feeling the ground shake, go down the street and see a large creature and the only thing they say is "Is that a minotaur?" without screaming running away or anything, before getting crushed. To me, that seems very out of place, and odd, not to mention, why does no one out of the floods of people running say anything about a minotaur, or horns, or anything.. Now, naturally it could be a red herring, one that JJ put in to throw everyone off.
3) The rest have already been mentioned, so I wont write them again.

Obviously I could be wrong, but its my opinion its a hoax.


I can't see a minotaur either, All I see is a punk with tattoos and ripped white t-shirt(with one arm in a black leather jacket) being gagged with a noose. The head looks like a gimp leather hood like on Pulp Fiction with hair around it and maybe? red blood coming from the eye holes. If no one else can see this I'm in need of professional help. The Slusho! theme song will do that to you. Smile

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dr_worm wrote:
No startling revelations here, like most of the gamejackers we've seen. Give her a break.

Disclosing a potential ID of the monster in a monster movie where the monster has been kept a guarded secret isn't a startling revelation?
Um, Ok...
brettoniasam wrote:

*In none of those movies was I asked/told to join the SAG. Never have. Only ACTORS join the SAG. EXTRAS are not ACTORS.

I am not saying you don't work in the industry and don't know how it works for a non-union extra, but my point was it takes 3 on screen extra appearances to be eligible for SAG membership. This is per what is stated here, and here. Also in the Wikipedia you'll notice that they explain that the Screen Extras Guild has disbanded and the remnants effectively absorbed by SAG. This page corroborates that effectively, see the 1992 information. SAG calls them 'background actors' though, which is certainly less demeaning and more respectful of the poise one is supposed to have to be on screen in any case, featured or not.
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*In all of those movies, we extras had access to: a)the specific stage/area we were part of; b)catering and the lunchroom; and c)the restrooms. Other than that, we were NOT allowed anywhere NEAR any other sets or stages. The few extras that *did* try to spy on those areas were fired immediately.

That pretty well squashes any validity of Denise's claims.

Edit: Apparently phpBB doesn't work with parenthetic URLs, so if you click the Wikipedia link you should arrive at the disambiguation page, choose Extra (actor).
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 		One possibility(if any of this is true ) is the line was written as minotaur to prevent leaks.(Though I'm getting pretty untrusting of anyone)

It reminds me of the guy who was in Darth Vaders outfit(David Prowse?)was given fake lines.

Real line: " I don't care about the asteroids, I want that ship"

Fake line: "I don't care about the hemeroids, I want to shit."
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Red Walrus wrote:
One possibility(if any of this is true ) is the line was written as minotaur to prevent leaks.(Though I'm getting pretty untrusting of anyone)

It reminds me of the guy who was in Darth Vaders outfit(David Prowse?)was given fake lines.

Real line: " I don't care about the asteroids, I want that ship"

Fake line: "I don't care about the hemeroids, I want to shit."
Smile


Cthulhu rhymes with minotaur Smile

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Kraker wrote:
Cthulhu rhymes with minotaur Smile

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That was priceless!
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*In all of those movies, we extras had access to: a)the specific stage/area we were part of; b)catering and the lunchroom; and c)the restrooms. Other than that, we were NOT allowed anywhere NEAR any other sets or stages. The few extras that *did* try to spy on those areas were fired immediately.
That pretty well squashes any validity of Denise's claims.


I think that our movie also would be SUPER closed sets - only principles' allowed. I can't see them allowing things like this when it's all supposed to be so secret. I've been around open sets where they were pulling passers-by in to be extras and practically anyone was allowed to watch so long as they kept their yap closed. But this movie is not one of those...

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 		I have worked in the industry as well.
There *is* such thing as SAG-Extras. On a union production (depending on the state, like California or Nevada) you HAVE to use union extras for a certain number, then you can fill in with non-union. However, if you are non-union you can ony work on a union production three times and then you have to join the union.

The Taft-Hartley occurs when you are given a line in a union production. If the director signs the paperwork, you can then join SAG.

This happened to me in Utah, on the set of "The Visitor" (short-lived tv series with John Corbett). I was working on the pilot as an extra in the ER (and drove a military truck in a military uniform in another scene) and in the trauma bay the director asked me to say a line "We're losing him" to cue another extra to cross the set with a piece of equipment. This line was not in the script, it was not necessary for the production (except to cue some action). The scene itself ended up completely overdubbed with music and ER sounds. But at the end of a very long night the PA (production assistants) pulled for me to get my TH and I got paid for the role ($750) instead of being an extra ($75). No, I'm not on IMDB since I'm not really in the business, didn't join SAG, and wasn't credited anyway. Oh, John Corbett is a vegetarian, very tall, and very nice (we spent a long time chatting in between takes while he was lying on the gurney since I was positioned at his head, and later I got to zip up the body bag.

I did not sign up for SAG, though (too expensive for the amount of work I'd get while living in Utah - and I wanted to keep working as an extra in a non-union work state). Funny thing is I kept getting residual checks for years (every time the episode was rerun on Sci-Fi). I was also a featured extra on "Nothing Lasts Forever" (you'll see my face as a medical student following Gail O'Grady around the ward), and a number of episodes of "Touched By An Angel" as an extra, driving a car in the background, and sometimes a stand-in for a guest star if I was the right height & coloring (you get paid a little more when you are a "featured" extra or "stand-in" or they use your car.
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 		Sorry not buying this for one main reason. She said as a mere extra she was given lines to say. My uncle was the police officer in "Runaway Bride", it was a scene that didn't get put into the movie because of all the fuss. Apparently 5 words were said and because my uncle was not part of the Actors Guild (union whatever) there was ALOT of complaining about the part. Ultimately it was taken out of the movie however up until last year I think he had been getting royalties for his part.

Anyways to sum it up, she had lines, got paid only as an extra, no qualms from anyone else.......

I don't believe it.

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AlexGrave wrote:
She said as a mere extra she was given lines to say.


This is not what she said. She said the girl next to her was instructed to say a line.

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the girl i was sitting at at the cafe runs after me to stop me then as shes turning me around she looks at the sky. the only thing she says is 'is that a minotaur?' before we get killed


For all those reasons that people give I was trying to easily introduce the subject of speaking roles, SAG membership and pay. Suddenly she was questioned gestapo style and *poof* she's gone. I doubt it was a real claim however it would have been nice to try and squeeze some info out, catch her in a trap and then cry foul. Or have her clue us in were it legit. Now we may never know...

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SlushoLover wrote:
AlexGrave wrote:
She said as a mere extra she was given lines to say.


This is not what she said. She said the girl next to her was instructed to say a line.

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the girl i was sitting at at the cafe runs after me to stop me then as shes turning me around she looks at the sky. the only thing she says is 'is that a minotaur?' before we get killed


For all those reasons that people give I was trying to easily introduce the subject of speaking roles, SAG membership and pay. Suddenly she was questioned gestapo style and *poof* she's gone. I doubt it was a real claim however it would have been nice to try and squeeze some info out, catch her in a trap and then cry foul. Or have her clue us in were it legit. Now we may never know...


we'll know come one friday night in January Rolling Eyes Cool

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casemyo wrote:
we'll know come one friday night in January Rolling Eyes Cool


Of course, we'll know all come one night in January. Does that mean we should stop playing this game now since the answers are forthcoming? And can marsupials really roll their eyes like that? I cry foul on your eye-roll emoticon until you can prove you can actually do that.

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konamouse wrote:
I have worked in the industry as well.
There *is* such thing as SAG-Extras. On a union production (depending on the state, like California or Nevada) you HAVE to use union extras for a certain number, then you can fill in with non-union. However, if you are non-union you can ony work on a union production three times and then you have to join the union.



Yeah, the state has a lot to do with it.
Here in North Carolina, we're non-union. I think that's why Wilmington turned into such a major East Coast moviemaking center. Wink

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Red Walrus wrote:
W-Three wrote:
Well, I have to say:

A) That picture that supposedly looks like a minotaur, to me looks nothing like one. Any chance someone could highlight where they see these horns?

B) Im inclined to believe that the OP is in fact lying, its nothing personal but a few things (to me) don't add up.

1) They appear very unsure, giving rather vague answers and not knowing alot about objects used in movies.
2) The red shirt gag and the phrase "Is that a minotaur?", seem a bit odd. The red shirt gag fits in slightly, but not entirely. As the star trek gag was the main group would take one extra person, who was wearing a red shirt, he died. However, this person was not only with someone else, but wasn't with the main crew, so in that respect it seems out of place. As for the "Is that a minotaur?" comment, it seems very...well odd. Two characters feeling the ground shake, go down the street and see a large creature and the only thing they say is "Is that a minotaur?" without screaming running away or anything, before getting crushed. To me, that seems very out of place, and odd, not to mention, why does no one out of the floods of people running say anything about a minotaur, or horns, or anything.. Now, naturally it could be a red herring, one that JJ put in to throw everyone off.
3) The rest have already been mentioned, so I wont write them again.

Obviously I could be wrong, but its my opinion its a hoax.


I can't see a minotaur either, All I see is a punk with tattoos and ripped white t-shirt(with one arm in a black leather jacket) being gagged with a noose. The head looks like a gimp leather hood like on Pulp Fiction with hair around it and maybe? red blood coming from the eye holes. If no one else can see this I'm in need of professional help. The Slusho! theme song will do that to you. Smile


I see EXACTLY what you see. There's no minotaur there.

Interestingly:

The Hanged Man is one of the most mysterious cards in the tarot deck. It is simple, but complex. It attracts, but also disturbs. It contradicts itself in countless ways. The Hanged Man is unsettling because it symbolizes the action of paradox in our lives. A paradox is something that appears contradictory, and yet is true. The Hanged Man presents to us certain truths, but they are hidden in their opposites.

The main lesson of the Hanged Man is that we "control" by letting go - we "win" by surrendering. The figure on Card 12 has made the ultimate surrender - to die on the cross of his own travails - yet he shines with the glory of divine understanding. He has sacrificed himself, but he emerges the victor. The Hanged Man also tells us that we can "move forward" by standing still. By suspending time, we can have all the time in the world.

In readings, the Hanged Man reminds us that the best approach to a problem is not always the most obvious. When we most want to force our will on someone, that is when we should release. When we most want to have our own way, that is when we should sacrifice. When we most want to act, that is when we should wait. The irony is that by making these contradictory moves, we find what we are looking for.

http://www.learntarot.com/maj12.htm

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 		didn't he say all the lines are improviesd?

am i late?

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 		Nothing she said was impossible.

Lines are given to extras many times that have nothing to do with the script - just to make sure lips are moving, or to cue action (see my post from last night). Doesn't mean we'll get paid as a regular actor - especially if there is plans to dub it all over with action sounds/music/etc.

I'm embarressed you guys jumped down her throat so cruely when she came in here to share some information with this board. This place used to welcome new folks with open arms and a beverage of choice. Everyone was a new visitor once (yes, even me). This is a place to play & discuss ARGs and Chaotic Fiction, and now movie trailers and video gaming. We're always looking for the next game or interactive fiction or puzzle trail. And we've always been a community (that means we've worked TOGETHER).

I know you Cloverfield folks have had a huge rash of gamejacks and fake sites, but sometimes a little honey is better than vinegar.
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