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[SPEC] Dead-End Boneyard - Leaps of faith and other random..
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brettoniasam
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I don't think the fireball thing will be adequately explained until the movie comes out -- and even then, we may *still* not know what caused the massive explosion or the fireballs.

It could wind up being a simple case of Hollywood excess: ("I want the BIGGEST GODDAM EXPLOSION you can put together. Nevermind what causes it or if it's not even close to real-world physics...I want something that goes BOOOOOM!")

But a *possible* explanation, based on supposed "insider" reports (which you can take with a grain of salt, of course), is that the explosion takes place in the HARBOR, not on land. Specifically, an oil tanker explodes; and the fireballs raining down are supposed to be burning oil barrels hurled a mile or so inland from the force of the explosion. (And for the record, that *has* happened in the real world before...Google the Texas City explosion of 1947 or 48, when a freighter full of ammonium nitrate blew up and barrels were blasted well over a mile inland.)

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Johnnyutah16
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1-18-08 trialer and present evidence

another bit of unverified rumor is the film starts by the Hi-8/VHS-C/8mm tape being found @ a destroyed Coney island...that being said, could have Grumpants started or ended @ coney? given the trail from where we think he entered NYC and the location of the explosion, the location of ellis island (SOL's gets her Dome uppercut), adn the location of where the poster shows grumpapants entering. This pses the question, did grumpants exit the way he entered? how did the tape get to that location that he departed from? why was grumpy pants following the tape/people filming? obviously he came towards the filmer on the trailer and then it is the tape is found where evid of the monster was bout 20 miles away the next day? using my CSI/Law and Order Logic, follow the tape, this is the corpus delecti, from here we will find intent and motive. If the coney island is true..what was grumpy pants looking for?

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Jamie having a UTI really sticks out to me, why bring this up?

along with promiscuity, and/or lack of sex/ or lack of personal hygiene from internet based Medical Encyclopedia:

Other factors may also increase a woman's risk of developing UTI including pregnancy, having urinary tract infections or bladder infections as a child, having past menopause, and diabetes.

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I agree that in both videos they make sure that the UTI is mentioned (or at least indicated by a glass of cranberry coloured drink). It seems too contrived to be just something in passing. It could be a symptom of something other than the standard medical stuff... something related to the consumption of Slusho, or a side-effect of some environmental changes.... Who knows. But I don't think it would be so prominent if it weren't something of note.

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Johnnyutah16 wrote:
Jamie having a UTI really sticks out to me, why bring this up?....
[i]Other factors may also increase a woman's risk of developing UTI including pregnancy...]


Did Hanssen impregnate Jaimie w/ seabed honey laced semen Shocked

No...seriously - is this plausible...

Kinda goes w/ the "Jaimie is part of an experiment" theory from earlier...
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Lastly, Jamie is Growing in a pot on her Myspace Profile?

Im sounding like one of those idiots that say, use erroneous logic to put together a mad man's puzzle

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Here's an old idea I had. There's something called a reverse IP lookup. Basically, you input the IP info of a known 1-18-08 site into a search engine and it returns all the other site hosted on that same IP. Problems, I think there could be potentially thousands of sites hosted on a single IP, it assumes they'd register multiple 1-18-08 sites on the same IP, and as far as I can tell (just did a cursory look), you have to pay/join to get the search results. Anyway, the stuff is way over my head.

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OK I wasn't gonna go there but...

UTIs are more likely to occur the more sex that a girl has, at least that's what most (females) believe. I can get into the graphic details of why this is so, but I'd rather not. So the implication of this is: (1) Teddy and Jamie had a lot of lovin before they left or (2) Jamie has been gettin alot of lovin lately from someone other than Teddy. I think that's what they're trying to imply.

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jojo wrote:
OK I wasn't gonna go there but...

UTIs are more likely to occur the more sex that a girl has, at least that's what most (females) believe. I can get into the graphic details of why this is so, but I'd rather not. So the implication of this is: (1) Teddy and Jamie had a lot of lovin before they left or (2) Jamie has been gettin alot of lovin lately from someone other than Teddy. I think that's what they're trying to imply.


Negative Ghostrider...

Lascano wipes back to front.

Plain & simple.

I'm a doctor Jim...not a detective.
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Dr. Awkward wrote:
Johnnyutah16 wrote:
Jamie having a UTI really sticks out to me, why bring this up?....
[i]Other factors may also increase a woman's risk of developing UTI including pregnancy...]


Did Hanssen impregnate Jaimie w/ seabed honey laced semen Shocked

No...seriously - is this plausible...

Kinda goes w/ the "Jaimie is part of an experiment" theory from earlier...


Can't imagine what kind of experiment they'd be doing, but Jamie being pregnant is an interesting possibility. And, if her pregnancy is related to some nefarious plan, with Teddy involved - that's interesting. According to the American Pregnancy Association, "Pregnant women are at increased risk for UTI's starting in week 6 through week 24."

That's from here: http://www.americanpregnancy.org/pregnancycomplications/utiduringpreg.html

Jamie probably recorded that first video on or around Sept. 7.

The first time anyone saw that first jamielovesteddy video was on Sept. 12 (I'm pretty sure of that date, but not 100%). But, she posted that myspace comment to Lena - about what a success the video was - on Sept. 10. And, in that myspace comment, she says that Teddy has called her for the past three days - the implication being that he first saw it three days before, on Sept. 7.

So, counting back 6 weeks lands us on July 27, but since that's exactly 6 weeks to the day, we should probably go back... July 20th? Anyway, let's just say that if this UTI is an indication of pregnancy, and if JJabrams & Co. did their homework, then Jamie woulda been knocked up sometime in Late July.

Based on all the myspace comments, I'd guess that Jamie and Teddy first hooked up on August 11. But, that's very speculative; the evidence is circumstantial. If that's right, though, then it wouldn't be Teddy's baby. Or, should I say... "baby." Shocked So, maybe they hooked up earlier than that; OR, they did hook up for the first time on 8/11, and it's someone else's baby. I mean, we are talking about Jamie here.

If she is pregnant, then w/out more info., there's no telling who the father is (b/c it's Jamie, and the only thing we know about her so far is that she's a budding alcoholic who sleeps around a lot). But, the pregnancy idea would be an interesting wrinkle. Hopefully, it's not just a soap opera - that would blow. Evil or Very Mad

EDIT: If all of this is just a soap opera, it'll be easy to spot anyone who played along once the movie comes out - we'll be the one's cheering wildly each time a character gets killed. Laughing

EDIT II: Crap! Forgot the most important info.: if Jamie is pregnant and she got knocked up sometime in Late July, then Dec. 9th would be a tad shy of 5 months into the pregnancy.

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Melampus wrote:
Dr. Awkward wrote:
Johnnyutah16 wrote:
Jamie having a UTI really sticks out to me, why bring this up?....
[i]Other factors may also increase a woman's risk of developing UTI including pregnancy...]


Did Hanssen impregnate Jaimie w/ seabed honey laced semen Shocked

No...seriously - is this plausible...

Kinda goes w/ the "Jaimie is part of an experiment" theory from earlier...


Can't imagine what kind of experiment they'd be doing, but Jamie being pregnant is an interesting possibility. And, if her pregnancy is related to some nefarious plan, with Teddy involved - that's interesting. According to the American Pregnancy Association, "Pregnant women are at increased risk for UTI's starting in week 6 through week 24."


I'm under the assumption there are several different strains of seabed honey, each producing their own effects.
The residual Dharmanites experimented with many women on the island to attempt a successful pregnancy (LOST)...maybe they should have tried seabed honey.

Perhaps Teddy is contracted by Tagruato's nefarious lurkers to initiate an
experiment on more than one unwitting victim...Jaimie's ditzy nature
would lend herself as an easy score (no pun intended...alright, it was intentional).
Get her drunk, slip 'er a rufie and inject away...

They could have been practicing their experiments in Japan for quite
some time and recently expanded their research to the American
bloodlines of the West.
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no one is visibly pregnant in the trailer. fireball could = ruptured(sp?) gas line.

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I agree that fireball is ruptured gasline, or some other volatile part of NYC infrastructure.

And, that's true - there's no visibly pregnant women in the trailer; but, Jamie's not in the trailer either (she's in the pic on 1-18-08.com, but she's not in the trailer, at least not that anyone can see).

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It could wind up being a simple case of Hollywood excess: ("I want the BIGGEST GODDAM EXPLOSION you can put together. Nevermind what causes it or if it's not even close to real-world physics...I want something that goes BOOOOOM!")


Laughing I think you hit the nail on the head with that. If I was a director it's what I would do!

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The UTI...

I agree, Jamie is not in the Trialer, she is in the pic @ 12:04, so she was there, but why isnt she in the trailer? I honestly think Grumpy Pants is searching for something one of them has. Why would grumpy pants fire the SOL head down their street, the world is a big place, why their street?Why would the Video be found @ a destroyed Coney Island the next day?I think Grumpy Pants is looking for something. We are trying to use Human Maternity Doctrine on a Grumpy Pants biology, she is creating a hybrid, she will have human symptoms of being Prego, but the term may be quicker? Remember this is partially Sci-Fi/Horror/PermicuoisSorority girlporn, some science rules will apply some rules will have no explanation.

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