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(spec) Deep sea drilling sation emplacements
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rhesusmonkeyboy
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Euchre wrote:

I'm going to do some of my own work with the maps. I'd like to ask smartmart - what did you use to do the graphics work?


I think you meant to ask me? Regarding the various gifs and jpgs?

If so, I used GIMP.

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rhesusmonkeyboy wrote:
Euchre wrote:

I'm going to do some of my own work with the maps. I'd like to ask smartmart - what did you use to do the graphics work?


I think you meant to ask me? Regarding the various gifs and jpgs?

If so, I used GIMP.

Actually, I didn't mean you. I saw your image, and good job based on the images you used - but really the other image linked in smartmart's post was a better one to use for a more accurate comparison. The fault map is a relatively crude one.

Cool choice using The GIMP btw. I run it on some of my systems, but I find it a bit more difficult to use than Photoshop. GIMP has some tools that Photoshop lacks, so it serves me to have both around.

At any rate, I did my own overlay with the SVG graphic from Wikipedia, and it appears most of the sites are NOT right on or even all that near the tectonic plate boundaries. It is possible because of some of the ones being in a similar offset from those boundaries that they were meant to appear on them, but that the person creating the Flash map didn't have quite the graphic alignment going for them.
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 Description   Tagruato drilling map overlaid with tectonic plate map. Note that the centering is different so the tectonic map is 'wrapped'.
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 		That's the same map I used, I used both the crude one to gen an overlay and the same color svg.

But I was having a rough time getting the scaling to work well, so I didn't bring the colors in from the SVG, just the black outlines. I was worried the red arrows would "confuse" us with the Tagruato red circles?

Much better job than I did! /thumbs up

Here's my ouevre, if you care, so it's got ley lines, fault lines, and tectonic plates in one directory:

http://s162.photobucket.com/albums/t259/louis_b_tique/Cloverfield/

I think directory views'll work for ye?

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Yeah, I was wondering about the placement ... IFF there's a correlation with ley / fault / tectonic lines... would it be more realistic for all of them to not lay exactly on them?

It seems if they all lay exact that'd imply possibly purposeful maliciousness? I don't know, whatcha think?

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rhesusmonkeyboy wrote:
That's the same map I used, I used both the crude one to gen an overlay and the same color svg.

But I was having a rough time getting the scaling to work well, so I didn't bring the colors in from the SVG, just the black outlines. I was worried the red arrows would "confuse" us with the Tagruato red circles?

Much better job than I did! /thumbs up

Here's my ouevre, if you care, so it's got ley lines, fault lines, and tectonic plates in one directory:

http://s162.photobucket.com/albums/t259/louis_b_tique/Cloverfield/

I think directory views'll work for ye?

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Yeah, I was wondering about the placement ... IFF there's a correlation with ley / fault / tectonic lines... would it be more realistic for all of them to not lay exactly on them?

It seems if they all lay exact that'd imply possibly purposeful maliciousness? I don't know, whatcha think?[/i]



That's what I think too, it follows the pattern but not exactly right onto it. Anyway, those maps are not garanteed to be the exact locations of 1) the fault lines 2) the drilling stations. So I think at this point we can agree that the harvested material (rock, oil, DSN) are somewhat associated with underwater tectonic plates and fault lines.

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rhesusmonkeyboy wrote:
That's the same map I used, I used both the crude one to gen an overlay and the same color svg.

I didn't catch that other image on the relatively quick run through of the thread, sorry. Embarassed
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But I was having a rough time getting the scaling to work well, so I didn't bring the colors in from the SVG, just the black outlines. I was worried the red arrows would "confuse" us with the Tagruato red circles?

I felt it best to leave in all the content from both images, as it prevents people from suggesting I 'doctored' either one - and the arrows give us that additional information about convergent and divergent boundaries.
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Much better job than I did! /thumbs up

Well thank you!
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smartmart wrote:
That's what I think too, it follows the pattern but not exactly right onto it. Anyway, those maps are not garanteed to be the exact locations of 1) the fault lines 2) the drilling stations. So I think at this point we can agree that the harvested material (rock, oil, DSN) are somewhat associated with underwater tectonic plates and fault lines.

Neat, that's what I was thinking.

Their reference for tectonic fault lines could be different -- be it reference source, or "different universe" reasons!
Euchre wrote:
I felt it best to leave in all the content from both images, as it prevents people from suggesting I 'doctored' either one - and the arrows give us that additional information about convergent and divergent boundaries.
Heheh! That's why I made the 1st one animated gifs!

I'm having lots of fun now!
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 		Shocked You guys certainly are impressive.

Rhesus, your comment about "different universe" is, in my opinion at least, pretty solid. Alternate Reality Game, remember? Nice wording, intentional or not.

I'm not sure about the "coming from under tectonic plates" idea...if "it" is capable of surviving beneath the Earth's plates, I would assume we'd have one heck of a time bringing it down. But maybe we don't win, who knows? That's half the fun.

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 		Can you marvelous mappers overlay the stations, and the plates with the oceanic trenches they talk of?

And adding the locations of MacDooble might help too...

Or am I asking too much ?
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 		which trenches?

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 		Does anyone have the Original Beyond the Supernatural>
Fehdman_Kassad wrote:
Can you marvelous mappers overlay the stations, and the plates with the oceanic trenches they talk of?

And adding the locations of MacDooble might help too...

Or am I asking too much ?


Assuming the other overlayers aren't already doing this, do you have some URLS for me to yank the pictures off of? I'm new to this.

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Does anyone have the Original Beyond the Supernatural? By Palladium Games, they had a ley line map as well, I can't find my 20 year old copy right now.

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rwarnerjr84 wrote:
Shocked You guys certainly are impressive.

Rhesus, your comment about "different universe" is, in my opinion at least, pretty solid. Alternate Reality Game, remember? Nice wording, intentional or not.

I'm not sure about the "coming from under tectonic plates" idea...if "it" is capable of surviving beneath the Earth's plates, I would assume we'd have one heck of a time bringing it down. But maybe we don't win, who knows? That's half the fun.
Part of the fun/problem is that we don't know whether it'll be vaguely magical, purely "science" or whatever combination of the two either.

Word choice wasn't intentional, but I'm a fan of RPG and Sci-Fi / Fantasy so it's not a foreign concept. PS You're Joker icon creeps me out.

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 		You can try:

http://www.s-yamaga.jp/nanimono/chikyu/TharpMapLarge.jpg

But you will have to play with it a bit to get the ones we want...
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 		Before anyone begins intensive mapping homework, I think the Pm wanted us to know the kind of environnement more than its precise location. But if anybody got spare time for this go ahead cause it'll be nice to see all the world events locations of this ARG on one map.

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Before anyone begins intensive mapping homework, I think the Pm wanted us to know the kind of environnement more than its precise location. But if anybody got spare time for this go ahead cause it'll be nice to see all the world events locations of this ARG on one map.

The kind of environment is going to be indicated by the locations, in a relatively precise way. There are fairly vast expanses of sea floor that are not too tremendously dynamic, but things like the tectonic boundaries create things like thermal vents and trenches - where it's VERY cold and pressures are VERY high. Thus the importance of knowing if they bothered to be so precise in their drilling graphic. I'd like to note that the tectonic SVG image and the image used for the Tagruato site are almost precisely the same continental outlines and were basically identical projections (no distortions, so there was no stretching to make them line up - just proportional scaling).

I'll overlay that nice sea floor map if the projection works well enough, but I'm not excited to work up a ley line graphic or a map of Vernon's travels. I would be willing to give someone a copy of the PSD file somehow, so they could add those layers on my work and give you that much grander map.
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smartmart wrote:
Before anyone begins intensive mapping homework, I think the Pm wanted us to know the kind of environnement more than its precise location. But if anybody got spare time for this go ahead cause it'll be nice to see all the world events locations of this ARG on one map.
Too late!

Now just like in real life, talk to me like a robot, I'm easily confused.

Here's my latest gif,
the first 2sec is just the drilling map.
The second 2 sec is my 1st attempt at trench "overlay" though I only put on the "red" dots ( if folks dislike this I can try to work around that somehow )
The third 2 sec is the map that Euchre created.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t259/louis_b_tique/Cloverfield/compile01.gif


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Oh, I'll gladly share my gimp hacks, XCF files, I keep them all as intermediates. I'm at home now.

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