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Mos
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Contact - TERMINATED!

07:42PM egrodin: Mr. Joyce I need to speak with you.
07:43PM ljoyce: Yes?
07:44PM egrodin: It has been brought to my attention that you have violated conditions of your employment with Ideltech.
07:45PM ljoyce: Which conditions did I violate and how did I do that?
07:45PM egrodin: You have leaked information about Ideltech and it's employees to a company that has been trying to buy out Ideltech.
07:45PM ljoyce: That's absolute nonsense.
07:48PM egrodin: Our sources are absolute. because of this infraction your employment with Ideltech has been terminated. Your Ideltech email account has been frozen and is under review and all security codes that were issued to you are no longer valid.
07:48PM ljoyce: That's nonsense. I want evidence.
07:48PM ljoyce: After all the work I've put in, you ditch me because of your so-called "absolute sources?"
07:48PM ljoyce: How do you know your sources haven't been compromised themselves?
07:48PM ljoyce: Maybe you haven't heard, but there is no such thing as an absolute source.
07:49PM ljoyce: This is, quite frankly, bullshit.
07:50PM egrodin: It is not our responsibility to provide evidence you were hired as with all employees on a 90 review period since you have not reached that 90 days thus we do not have to explain reasons. Mr. Thesburg has his reasons and is the one that made this decision. I am just the one given the task to inform you of this.
07:51PM ljoyce: Then I would like to speak with Mr. Thesburg as the most convienant time.
07:52PM egrodin: If you have issues you want to discuss about this then you can try to get in touch Mr. Thesburg at your convenience, I do not know his schedule and I do not set his appointments. I am only used to do the dirty work obviously.
07:53PM egrodin: I am sorry for having to tell you this. I wish you luck in the future.




Okay, this will have to go to Marcus. I need some people to back me up and claim that I am a loyal employee and a driving force behind our group's progress.

Please?[/i]

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 8:59 pm
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rosie
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Mos:If I can help you I will

If I can bring this up with Marcus or SLake I will.
It seems someone told them you were working for Alecia
how else would they find out?

Or did Mr. Baxter find out using his new system and tell them?

We can clarify how they found out at least. I will INtellIM Marcus and tell him you contacted me and you are upset about losing your job. Don't know if that will help but I will try.

Rose

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jonathan
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Joined: 10 May 2004
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I'm on it man Smile

PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 12:57 pm
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rose
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Joined: 26 Nov 2003
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Not my finest effort

Quote:
01:37PM roseaware: sorry, Pat is the one who sent me the message. It was LJoyce who was fired.
01:37PM MThesburg: Ah, for the affiliation with Alecia.
01:37PM MThesburg: But you will have to discuss that with him
01:38PM MThesburg: I am not permitted as his employer to say more
01:38PM roseaware: He just wants a chance to talk to you about it
01:38PM roseaware: that's all
01:39PM MThesburg: No thanks. I can't sit around re-thinking decisions like that. Not only that, I have no desire to hurt my TRO. His affiliation means we can't talk legally
01:40PM MThesburg: He is permitted to talk to Lake, or have his atty contact him would be more appropriate.
01:40PM MThesburg: But you know that.
01:40PM roseaware: I understand that, but I think he is denying any affiliation with her.
01:40PM roseaware: Don't be cross, I'm sorry, I just promised I would ask you. So I did.


Mos, find Steve Lake.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 1:43 pm
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sauceykat
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Mos, you should have Jonathan represent you as your attorney, he's a law student isn't he?

D-

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Rasputin42x69
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01:37PM roseaware: sorry, Pat is the one who sent me the message. It was LJoyce who was fired.


Eagh! Leave me outta this! Smile
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jonathan
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Hi.

Mos seemed like a very good player, and I hate to see good players sacked Sad.

I have prepared a letter that I will e-mail to Ideltech, which should at least make them give a valid reason for your dismissal Smile

Sorry I'm not emailing it from my real name, Last time I pulled a stunt like that I came close to getting the sack myself!




21 May, 2004
In regards to:
Ideltech
Attention:
Dear Marcus Thesburg,
Dismissal
It has come to the attention of AGJ Solicitors that you (being Ideltech Information) are dismissing employees without due cause.
In this particular case, our client L. Joyce, complains that he was dismissed without valid reason from Ideltech Information on May 21st 2004. I do adhere to the fact that an employee can be dismissed in the first twelve months of employment without reason. However, I am also aware that there are "exceptions" to this rule. I will now outline what exceptions Ideltech fall into.

Ideltech Information, are guilty of breaking the Public Interest Disclosure Act 1998, (subsection 12, point VI) which clearly states that any employee who provides information to a third party pertaining to the following information should not be sacked by his or her employer. If the employee is sacked, this would prove substantial grounds for an Employee to seek compensation under the act outlined above.


• a criminal offence;
• the breach of a legal obligation;
• a miscarriage of justice;
• a danger to the health or safety of any individual;
• damage to the environment; or
• deliberate covering up of information tending to show any of the above five matters.


Since no reason was stated for Mr Joyce's dismissal, except that he is "guilty" of "leaking information about Ideltech and it's employees to a company that has been trying to buy out Ideltech."
Due to this, AJG have to assume that, until proven otherwise, it may constitute one of the above points.

Under law, Ideltech Information must now
i) Give a valid and thorough account of the reasons behind Mr Joyces' dismissal.
ii) If this reason is deemed unsatisfactory by Mr Joyce, AGJ will seek compensation on his behalf.


However, up until this incident Mr Joyce did enjoy his position at Ideltech. He is willing to call off any further legal proceedings if Ideltech Information:
i) Re-instate his position at the company.
ii) Re-activate his Ideltech e-mail account.

Also, Please note that failure to respond within seven days (as of May 21, 2004) will be denoted as contempt on the issue from Ideltech, and will consequentially lead to the request from AJG for an employment tribunal on the grounds of wrongful dismissal.
Finally, I urge you to take note that there is no qualifying period of service or age limit for employees who wish to complain that they have been dismissed for a reason described in this section. Therefore, the "90 day-review period" argument is overwritten and thus declared void.

I await the response of Ideltech Information with earnest,



Cordially Yours,
Alan John Greenshaw
AGJ Solicitors

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Giskard
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Great letter Johnathan... I'd love to see them answer to that! Smile
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StercusMaximus
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Not bad, Jon!! If nothing else, all that legalese should be somewhat intimidating!!


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