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JohnJimJoeBob · Boot Joined: 08 Sep 2007 Posts: 56

Yes, but we're the first source of information listed on the right. Don't know why China is there...

**Posted:** Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:24 pm

Salsaman1991

**Posted:** Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:43 pm

Kirrus · Guest

Has anyone ran the image through a stenography program or two?
(sorry if this has been asked before...)

**Posted:** Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:58 am

Cr0ybot

The original file is only 4 KB, so it's unlikely that it's hiding much of anything. Even if there was something encrypted into it, I would have no idea how to get it out, since there are so many different ways of embedding hidden stuff into images.

**Posted:** Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:43 am

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Kortheal · Boot Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 53

Nobody has checked to see if the original image file is stegged have they?

**Posted:** Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:17 pm

Salsaman1991

I tried using camouflage once or twice, but if there really is something, I don't know the password. Don't have a clue on what other program I might use. I'm too new at this...

**Posted:** Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:41 pm

JohnJimJoeBob · Boot Joined: 08 Sep 2007 Posts: 56

So while we're being completely random... I did a search on Google for Bassamura (Bassa-MURA) and apparently, it's a fictional town in an Italian novel called "Il Broglio", or "The Vote-Rigging". It's about the possible rigging of the 2006 general election in Italy. Which has nothing to do with anything we've found so far.

**Posted:** Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:06 pm

petunia · Unfettered Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 616 Location: MS

Hi guys, I haven't been here a long time, but I've just caught up with the thread and will try to "sign up" tonight.

I noticed something on our mystery image. I think there's another little piece, just above the second "flag", that has been dismissed as noise but may not be. That region falls within one of Cr0ybot's yellow "white noise" rectangles, therefore we can take the black stuff in that region to be real, right? I've been playing with it in Paint and can post it later. Either way, I'm of the opinion that it's not "whah". Too bad it doesn't look like a Chinese character, or we might have a connection to the Chinese element! Oh well. :/

OOC, has anybody ever encoded stuff in music using the numbers of the frequencies (Hz)?

**Posted:** Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:45 pm

J-AKA-Avathar · Guest

That whole thing with the chinese IP address has been bugging me. So far, it all seems to be having to do with the Prince, and areas in the middle-east. But why was that IP there? especially with it being called "Red-Monday". Has there not been trouble in the past with china trying to get nuclear weapons? that, coupled with everything pointing at the middle-east, and that power-plant... But I'm just rambling. I have been following you guys on the forums for a while now, and now I figured I would post. There isn't really anything that I have figured out that you haven't, but hey, more heads are better than... less... I think.

**Posted:** Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:47 am

Salsaman1991

**Posted:** Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:56 am

Spunkysoda9 · Boot Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 56 Location: Planet Earth

Ok im new here so heres what i got 2 days ago..

JC <jc> to me
show details Oct 17 (2 days ago)

I know that you don't know Saul.
>
>I also know that you are not a member of the NCS. And yet, you know something about Red Monday...here's the latest

ECHELON CALL LOG: http://www.red-monday.com/phonelogs/93124.mp3
> Pub. L. No. 103-414, 108 Stat. 4279
> INCID: 92547 Date: 10/14 Time: 10:45 PM

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So, besides Saul being a complete jerk.... a little more on the 'Prince.' We've gathered that he is a member of the Saudi Royal Family, who was involved heavily in the Gulf War. He has spent an indeterminate amount of time in London, England (based on phone traces provided by xxx xxxxxxx), and has often been mentioned in reference to an 'A.Q' (unknown). He recently came to our attention during a supposed meeting with a certain xxxxx xxx xxxxx at this location: [111100101010000100, 11001011110100101000000]. We don't know the reason for the meeting, but the location is unsettling.
> Call: 206-279-1586

Don't ask me about the X's. Those are taken from a blacked up doc Saul passed me... I dont know who they are. I just found the original file referencing the meeting. But, pretty freaky, huh? So, long story short... we suspect that this 'Prince' is Khaled bin Sultan, but there are inconsistencies. Here's a basic run down:

Full Name: Khalid bin Sultan bin Abdul Aziz Al-Saud
Born 1949, eldest son of Saudi Crown Prince Sultan.
Education: Advanced military training in the U.S. and U.K. (thx AJF)
Attended the Royal Military Academy in Sandhurst and the US Army's Command and General Staff College at Fort Leavenworth in Kansas.
Graduate of the Air War College at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama.

After a lengthy tenure in different branches of Saudi Arabia's armed forces, Prince-General Khalid was named Commander of the Joint Arab Forces during Iraq's invasion of Kuwait (1990-1991). Promoted to Field Marshall by his uncle, King Fahd, after the campaign, Prince Khalid retired, in 1991, to concentrate in business. (thx J. Garson) Gotta love nepotism.

An interesting quote provided by P. Naegele from Sultan: 'Ours is a turbulent region, still in the grips of an arms race. True peace and disarmament are a long way off. There are great security anxieties in our region due to the dangerous imbalance between the various players.'

But according to one source... 'After the [Gulf War], Khaled suffered from delusions of grandeur that he began challenging King Fahd.' (Thanks to Nereus for pointing this one out.) http://www.geocities.com/saudhouse_p/khaled.htm is obviously a biased source, but peppered with interesting tidbits, nonetheless.

Since his resignation (exile?), Khalid has largely kept out of the press. Though he now works for his father, Prince Sultan, as deputy minister of defense, it remains to be seen how Khalid will fare once he and his peers begin jockeying for power. (AJF)

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Keep in mind, it's not confirmed that this is our man... but all the pieces seem to fit, except some info provided by C. Hughart having to do with the whole Living Oceans Foundation: http://www.livingoceansfoundation.org and Khalid's interest in Arabian horses: http://www.arabhorse.com/arabian-horse-shows/2006/dubai/index.php. Sounds pretty peaceful PC for a guy involved in something suspicious like this. But you never know. What are your thoughts?

Lastly, I don't think this has anything to do with the particle collider, Angelo:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/02/050223140133.htm

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Anyway, I guess the important thing, now, is to figure out who 'AQ' is, and how he ties into everything...

Oh, any any luck on the symbol?

Let me know,

More planned for 10/22.

~ JC

>If you are receiving this e-mail, chances are you got a red envelope from a man resembling a secret service agent in Ontario, California. Either that, or you were one of the several hundred who accessed the drop-point through the leak on Digg's homepage Wednesday morning. (btw special thanks to echelon/3 and NSMike for burying the story so quickly... you infocontainment guys are a lifesaver.)
>
>Either way... you were not supposed to know about this.
>
>But now, I suppose I should congratulate you... since you've accessed some sensitive information relating to Red Monday, you are now considered a junior informant for the NCS. Any and all communications between us should be consistered strictly confidential. We need to keep a lid on this.
>
>
>Many of you have been e-mailing me over the past week.. asking questions. Like what is Red Monday? I know some things... but I'm not prepared to give up any key details until I know you can be trusted. If you want to know more about the Event, then you're going to have to gather some intelligence for me. Thsi is a pure OSINT assignment. I need people who are quick and smart, people with some ingenuity... people who I can TRUST to help me investigate this. It could be the most significant event in 6 years...
>
>Write me back, and type Bravo if you comply, or Argyle if you are unable to accept...
>
>***
>Now, onto business...
>
>For those of you who were asking before.. I managed to retrieve that last bit of phone call from log 92547:
>http://www.red-monday.com/phonelogs/92547-recovered.mp3
>
>Not much there, but the symbol I was talking about is some sort of character I pulled out from a corrupted image file. I have no idea what it is, or what it means, so echelon/3 is working on it. She's good at this sort of stuff. But if anyone has any ideas, by all means... throw it out there.
>http://www.red-monday.com/files/extracted.gif
>
>Nyfb, lbh thlf gelvat gb penpx gur pbqr... Lbh boivbhfyl qvqa'g gev rabhtu. Ybbx hc Gevsvq Pvcure naq gura rznvy zr bapr lbh'ir oebxra gur zrffntrf. Ol gur jnl, EBG13 vf nobhg nf rnfl nf vg trgf jvgu rapbqvat... vs lbh qba'g trg guvf, guna lbh ernyyl unir ab ohfvarff jbexvat va gur pelcgbtencul vaqhfgel. Znlor lbh arrq gb nfx gur thlf ba gur qrifurq Frphevgl naq Pelcgbtencul Sbehzf arkg gvzr. yby.
>
>uggc://sbehzf.hasvpgvba.pbz/sbehzf/ivrjgbcvp.cuc?g=21349
>uggc://jjj.chercjantr.pbz/sbehzf/vaqrk.cuc?f=94960p95r2900876q949o76475967021&fubjgbcvp=63369&ivrj=svaqcbfg&c=1127932
>uggc://vasbphyg.glcrcnq.pbz/vasbphyg/2007/10/hcqngrf-ba-erq-.ugzy
>
>
>That's all for now. I should be in touch again October 15th.
>
>PS, shut up n00bs, I don't sound like a girl.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>Subject: What you need to know about Red Monday
>
>> Do me a favor and delete this message after you read it. Get rid of any trace I ever contacted you.
>>
>> someone got careless and there was a leak of my previous contacts. No harm no foul, but these people have wide net packet sniffers and I'd rather not take that risk again...
>>
>> Anyways, call me JC.
>>
>> So Saul told you about the Event? There are still a few details you probably need to be brought up to speed on. Here's our last conversation we had on the subject:
>>
>> ECHELON CALL LOG:
>> Pub. L. No. 103-414, 108 Stat. 4279
>> INCID: 92547 Date: 09/24 Time: 9:57 PM
>> Call: 206-279-1586
>>
>> I cached the log at: http://www.red-monday.com/phonelogs/92547.mp3
>>
>> sorry it's not complete... part of the file got cut off at tne end for some reason
>>
>> I'll be using the Red-Monday.com drop point to pass docs as I decode them... in the meantime, don't tell anyone else about this... just lay low.
>>
>> I will contact you again Oct 8, God willing, of course...
>>
>> ~JC
>>
>>
>> aQXw http://www.research.att.com/viewProject.cfm?prjID=117

So what should i replay back? also its been past Oct 8.

**Posted:** Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:44 am

Salsaman1991

It's the same automatic reply everybody received.

On a side note: I sent JC the information on AQ Kahn's activities in Egypt as soon as I posted it here, but haven't received a reply ever since...

**Posted:** Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:14 am

Cr0ybot

I haven't received a reply about the pattern in the symbol yet either.

Mayhaps we'll just have to wait until Monday.

**Posted:** Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:11 pm

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similarly ot the similar not, JC hasnt responded to the list yet, or my questions about AQ. looks like information is witheld till next monday Sad

BTW, Spunkysoda9, make sure you read all of the posts first (yah, i no, its alot) so you dont get flamed and that said welcome to the forum.

**Posted:** Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:51 pm

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