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Toxic
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Re: Unsure?

sMooTH WuN wrote:
Toxic wrote:
Ok this is my first ARG and I was just tinkering with the archive and I typed System into the Query box and this is what I came up with:

Quote:

Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Lost connection to MySQL server during query in /home/.pal/chaoseed/exilearchive.com/func_lib.php on line 8
VERYBADERROR0


This might have been a fluke error but I figured I would post it just in case.


I tried "system" just now and I got the message that was already post a little while ago, not yours Toxic.. are you sure it was "system"? did you use any capital letters or anything different? This is just weird...

No hits for Chaoseed/chaosseed/chaos seed

AND no hits for MySQL


EDIT: Chippy, nice thinking on the "sea"... it could be interpreted as "See" ....See Bubbles! lol.. you ever blow bubbles when you were a kid? well hes back in town and he wants your number lol I love that one


Yah it was exactly the same. But even if it was capatalized it would come up the same as it normally does. I feel like a dumbass cause one part of it was a link, it went nowhere, but I didnt copy the link down. What I found weird was that at the very end it has "VERYBADERROR0". I dont know much about coding, but that doesn't seem normal to me.

EDIT: I just happened to look up Choas Seed on good and came up with this: http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/chaosseed/chaosseed.htm

Is it just a coincidence that we keep coming up with random games from the past?

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Is it just a coincidence that we keep coming up with random games from the past?



I think Jedditor explained it best by saying that someone inputted random cultural aspects of Earth... perhaps because this was geared toward technologically inclined people, they considered video games to be something we would recognize and take interest in, eventually drawing us in so that we may help whoever was asking for it.

Does that even make sense??

EDIT: At first glance, the "MySQL" almost reminded me of MySpace.. for obvious reasons.. "MyS..."
QL.... CUE-EL... COOL?? MySpace Cool? lol eeehhh...


PUZZLE:


This is what Jedditor said about the puzzle, for those of you who havent read it:

Quote:
the puzzle is interesting. i think someone asked the system to make a neat little puzzle with images from your culture. the system is good at that. of course i could be wrong.

the green numbers look like they repeat a lot just with a difference of 2. the same thing over and over i guess.

the black ones dont look like they have a message at all. so the fact that it has a number is the message. or a letter. which is it? well whatever im going to bed.


He also said this, after Kender sent him links to almost all of the pictures:

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quite a collection of images there. a lot of stuff going on. kings and queens? tv and movies? columbo having a sale in the ocean blue? amazing. b...heh. that strawberry character seems like a fun guy.



Maybe its nothing, but why did he say queens? and also, movies...

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oh snap... SAIL THE OCEAN BLUE! he may have been on to somethign there...

COLUMBO SAIL THE OCEAN BLUE

IN 1492 COLUMBUS SAILED THE OCEAN BLUE!!!


Now where to go from here..
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This is admittedly a little train of consciousness, but here goes.....

We can assume fairly confidently that the the song lyrics in the upper left to stand for "1". If we also assume that the square outlined in black is the Lo Shu magic square that we get redirected to by typing "square" in the query box, the top three numbers will be 4, 9, 2. Reading across the top, that gives something like 1 4 9 2 Columbo Sale Ocean Blue.

or perhaps I'm going insane from staring at the puzzle too long....

EDIT:
Does this mean that the black outlined box is just a little hint to make us realize that the green outlined area is a magic square of some kind?

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Quick point to where Chaoseed came from, please? (sic....)
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There actually is a Chaoseed Software, and it wouldn't be the guy's first ARG. That said, he knows my address and shouldn't be sending postcards to my parents; however, his reaction to my sending him the link via Wii was...suspicious....

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well Chaoseed is an interesting peek... but MySQL is just a database system, which I'm certain is what is running on the backend of this site. Considering it was an error that the text appeared, I'm certain none of this is "in-game", as it were. Which is why Chaoseed is more than likely a 'peek' behind the curain, and not necessarily anything to do with the arg. MySQL - Definitely not.

And for reference: "In 1492"
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thebruce wrote:
well Chaoseed is an interesting peek... but MySQL is just a database system, which I'm certain is what is running on the backend of this site. Considering it was an error that the text appeared, I'm certain none of this is "in-game", as it were. Which is why Chaoseed is more than likely a 'peek' behind the curain, and not necessarily anything to do with the arg. MySQL - Definitely not.

And for reference: "In 1492"


Did anyone else notice how many times the number 3 and multiples of 3 appear in that poem?

Also I was just looking at that picture again. Does anyone know what the blue words (I think they are chinese) mean? The ones over the bottom right picture. I dont know if it means anything but I figured I would share just in case. Nevermind, I just noticed someone else already had that.

I also just thought about something. Notice how he speaks of TV and Movies? What could possibly be from movies? The only two things I can think of are the one on the left and the middle in the bottom. If so what movie or movies? Yet again nevermind.

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Toxic wrote:
thebruce wrote:
well Chaoseed is an interesting peek... but MySQL is just a database system, which I'm certain is what is running on the backend of this site. Considering it was an error that the text appeared, I'm certain none of this is "in-game", as it were. Which is why Chaoseed is more than likely a 'peek' behind the curain, and not necessarily anything to do with the arg. MySQL - Definitely not.

And for reference: "In 1492"


Did anyone else notice how many times the number 3 and multiples of 3 appear in that poem?

Also I was just looking at that picture again. Does anyone know what the blue words (I think they are chinese) mean? The ones over the bottom right picture. I dont know if it means anything but I figured I would share just in case. Nevermind, I just noticed someone else already had that.

I also just thought about something. Notice how he speaks of TV and Movies? What could possibly be from movies? The only two things I can think of are the one on the left and the middle in the bottom. If so what movie or movies? Yet again nevermind.


lol 1 out of 3 ..lol not bad!

and thebruce- I realize MySQL and CHAOSEED are probably OOG, but why add the "VeryBadError0"? That makes it suspiciously IG.. even though I trust your word and believe it is not.

Now, from what Jedditor said, we need to focus on:

"B...heh." and "Strawberry is a fun guy"

I already stated this once, but could he be referring to "FUNGI"?

Three clues by Jedd, three lines in the Magic Square.

One line down, two to go. I believe each clue refers to different lines of the MS. Seeing as though strawberry is obvious, that would mean the "B...heh" refers to the last line.
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You know what, now that I think about it, the rest of the puzzle probably has to be solved in a different way. The "1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue" is encased in the GREEN code.

The fact that the rest of the puzzle is encased in Black leads me to believe there is going to be a different method for solving this...

Jedditor mentioned something about the numbers or letters in the black code.

Quote:
the black ones dont look like they have a message at all. so the fact that it has a number is the message. or a letter. which is it?


Quote:

Chippy wrote:
yes to B for strawberry clock - bee?


Chippy, where did the "B" come from? could this be related to Jedditors "B...heh" somehow?


A THOUGHT: The fact that Jedditor wrote "Kings, Queens" is most likely a hint towards CHESS. Just thought of that... now as to why he wrote "movies" .. still workin on it.. maybe the bottom left pic comes from a movie?

Hm: The bottom left pic looks like an African American Male wearing a track shirt? maybe? Is there any track movies with an African American Male? Its not Higher Learning.. did Carl Lewis ever make a movie??? lol doubt it...
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sMooTH WuN wrote:
You know what, now that I think about it, the rest of the puzzle probably has to be solved in a different way. The "1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue" is encased in the GREEN code.

The fact that the rest of the puzzle is encased in Black leads me to believe there is going to be a different method for solving this...

Jedditor mentioned something about the numbers or letters in the black code.

Quote:
the black ones dont look like they have a message at all. so the fact that it has a number is the message. or a letter. which is it?


Quote:

Chippy wrote:
yes to B for strawberry clock - bee?


Chippy, where did the "B" come from? could this be related to Jedditors "B...heh" somehow?


A THOUGHT: The fact that Jedditor wrote "Kings, Queens" is most likely a hint towards CHESS. Just thought of that... now as to why he wrote "movies" .. still workin on it.. maybe the bottom left pic comes from a movie?

Hm: The bottom left pic looks like an African American Male wearing a track shirt? maybe? Is there any track movies with an African American Male? Its not Higher Learning.. did Carl Lewis ever make a movie??? lol doubt it...


The one on the bottom middle is of an actress I beleive. Dont know what movie though. I just happened to notice something in a previous post. I think on page 14 of this thread. or somewhere around there. But I thought the same thing of the guy on the bottom left. I will try and look into it right now.

EDIT: Also I just noticed that strawberry Clock's AIM name is KingOfThePortal. I don't know if that is significant or not

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Toxic wrote:
sMooTH WuN wrote:
You know what, now that I think about it, the rest of the puzzle probably has to be solved in a different way. The "1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue" is encased in the GREEN code.

The fact that the rest of the puzzle is encased in Black leads me to believe there is going to be a different method for solving this...

Jedditor mentioned something about the numbers or letters in the black code.

Quote:
the black ones dont look like they have a message at all. so the fact that it has a number is the message. or a letter. which is it?


Quote:

Chippy wrote:
yes to B for strawberry clock - bee?


Chippy, where did the "B" come from? could this be related to Jedditors "B...heh" somehow?


A THOUGHT: The fact that Jedditor wrote "Kings, Queens" is most likely a hint towards CHESS. Just thought of that... now as to why he wrote "movies" .. still workin on it.. maybe the bottom left pic comes from a movie?

Hm: The bottom left pic looks like an African American Male wearing a track shirt? maybe? Is there any track movies with an African American Male? Its not Higher Learning.. did Carl Lewis ever make a movie??? lol doubt it...


The one on the bottom middle is of an actress I beleive. Dont know what movie though. I just happened to notice something in a previous post. I think on page 14 of this thread. or somewhere around there. But I thought the same thing of the guy on the bottom left. I will try and look into it right now.

EDIT: Also I just noticed that strawberry Clock's AIM name is KingOfThePortal. I don't know if that is significant or not



AW cmon this is too easy..lol Trout

TROUT! lol dude your 1.5 out of 5!!

there arent THAT many pages here. To avoid repitition of facts the best thing to do is go back and read the posts, toxic.

The actress is from a TV Show apparently. She is known as the Lizard Lady Wink or something or other..

And the strawberryclock being kingoftheportal has been mentioned, although I dont think his AIM has been mentioned, IF that really is his personal AIM, or just a fan. (he has alot apparently) So you were half on point with new info so I gave you a half. Very Happy
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sMooTH WuN wrote:
Toxic wrote:
sMooTH WuN wrote:
You know what, now that I think about it, the rest of the puzzle probably has to be solved in a different way. The "1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue" is encased in the GREEN code.

The fact that the rest of the puzzle is encased in Black leads me to believe there is going to be a different method for solving this...

Jedditor mentioned something about the numbers or letters in the black code.

Quote:
the black ones dont look like they have a message at all. so the fact that it has a number is the message. or a letter. which is it?


Quote:

Chippy wrote:
yes to B for strawberry clock - bee?


Chippy, where did the "B" come from? could this be related to Jedditors "B...heh" somehow?


A THOUGHT: The fact that Jedditor wrote "Kings, Queens" is most likely a hint towards CHESS. Just thought of that... now as to why he wrote "movies" .. still workin on it.. maybe the bottom left pic comes from a movie?

Hm: The bottom left pic looks like an African American Male wearing a track shirt? maybe? Is there any track movies with an African American Male? Its not Higher Learning.. did Carl Lewis ever make a movie??? lol doubt it...


The one on the bottom middle is of an actress I beleive. Dont know what movie though. I just happened to notice something in a previous post. I think on page 14 of this thread. or somewhere around there. But I thought the same thing of the guy on the bottom left. I will try and look into it right now.

EDIT: Also I just noticed that strawberry Clock's AIM name is KingOfThePortal. I don't know if that is significant or not



AW cmon this is too easy..lol Trout

TROUT! lol dude your 1.5 out of 5!!

there arent THAT many pages here. To avoid repitition of facts the best thing to do is go back and read the posts, toxic.

The actress is from a TV Show apparently. She is known as the Lizard Lady Wink or something or other..

And the strawberryclock being kingoftheportal has been mentioned, although I dont think his AIM has been mentioned, IF that really is his personal AIM, or just a fan. (he has alot apparently) So you were half on point with new info so I gave you a half. Very Happy


Yah, I knew it was only a matter of time before it happened. I went through and read most of the other posts but my brain is starting to wear out from lack of sleep. Oh well it happens to everyone I am assuming.

But anyways back to the topic at hand. Did anyone read the plot outline for V? It rings a lot like the books you guys have been emailed. Reptillian alien race. Medical student and a reporter leading the war against the aliens. Aliens that need a new planet to call home. Massive citites. Here read it for yourselves: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085106/plotsummary

EDIT: Also Strawberry Clock does have a lot of fans, but he also has a lot of people who hate is work. I used to mess around on Newgrounds about 2 years ago.

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Ok I am not sure if this is right but I figured I might as well try. There was a guy during the 1936 Olympics that were held in Berlin during Hitler's time. Well he was black and he won a gold medal, much to Hitler's displeasure. That man was named Jesse Owens. Well I couldn't find the picture in the puzzle but I figured someone else would have a better shot. I am gonna go to bed. Before I go here is a link to the IMDb website for his movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085106/plotsummary

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Days of the Dark Forest - The Journal of Keridwen Oculet, Part 3


Day 22: The negotiations went well. The Blues are greedy folk, very interested
in the honey. They would say "their honey", but I wouldn't. Because they were
so interested, they assumed they would have to give something in return, so I
asked them to cede ownership of the trees. They agreed.

Day 24: I was extremely impressed with Davadron today. The Hedges are such
strange creatures, but he was able to negotiate with them with patience and
skill. His range of talents is astounding. Well, in any case these talks were
also successful. The Hedges want leaves from the trees, and in return they
have agreed that we own the bees who nest in them. Now comes the tricky part.

Day 25: It worked. We did it. We made it happen. I still can't believe it.

The Blues and Hedges finally met today. Davadron brought them together. The
Blues want honey, of course, and they do it by stealing the entire hive. But
that destroys the bees, and the Hedges have promised the bees to us. And the
Hedges want leaves, but the harvesting kills the trees...which the Blues have
promised to us. So either faction pursuing their goals would violate the
treaties made by the other one. And neither wants to get into that conflict.

The real truth, of course, is that they were already connected and they didn't
realize it. Without leaves, the trees die and stop providing the sugary food
to the bees, who also die. Without bees to sting the herbivorous animals of
the forest, the trees would have their leaves eaten and also die. The two life
forms have evolved together. The flower stalks provide the bees with food and
homes. The bees having learned to build their homes in the trees, defend them.

The Blues and Hedges have to work together. We're going to try to find a way
that they can get what they want without destroying everything. No, we *will*
find a way. We can harvest *some* leaves and *some* honey, without killing
anything. This is a lesson we will *make* them learn.

And now Davadron is organizing a celebration that I should attend.

Day 27: Now that this expedition is coming to a close, I'm thinking about
everything that's happened to me. It's hard to believe it all happened in less
than a [month]. I started out just a girl who liked books and studying plants
and animals. And now I've become something like a leader. Davadron and I were
able to do what I thought was impossible, preserve these beautiful life forms.
I know we'll have a great future together, like a spider jumping into the
unknown but keeping a connection to the knowledge we've already gained.

I can't wait to see where he and I will go next.


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as the top bit is 1492, and square leads to magic square: we have numbers for each bit now too:
Code:
4 9 2
3 5 7
8 1 6

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working with the numbers from the books, we have
0213 (assuming it begins with 0, to fit with the other numbers)
1048
2101

Factors are
213: 3*71
1048: 2*2*2*131
2101: 11*191

If using them as strings, with the added 0, they each have a 0; lining them up we have
0213
0481
0121

And again, factors are
213: 3*71
481: 13*37
121: 11*11

As letters (both 0-based and 1-based):
0213 = ACBD = -BAC
1048 = BAEI = A-DH
2101 = CBAB = BA-A
or with 0's lined up
0213 = ACBD = -BAC
0481 = AEIB = -DHA
0121 = ABCB = -ABA

no idea where to take these...
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