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[META]PG-13 or R?
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Matt Dark
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 		R... it has jamie in it... need i say more?
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Matt Dark wrote:
R... it has jamie in it... need i say more?


Should have had a poll up on this one. Like to see the percentage of R versus PG-13

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brettoniasam wrote:
I think Paramount's bottom line is that they're looking at the bottom line...for "Star Trek."

Pretty much, Paramount hired JJ for one reason above all: to make "Star Trek" into a megabajillion blockbuster. That's why they threw him $190 million for that and gushed that he's the next Steven Spielberg.

So, $30 million to throw JJ a bone to go play in the sandbox, flex his creative talent? No prob. Paramount could care less if "Cloverfield" sinks or swims, so long as "Trek" brings home the gold.


I can relate to that Brett...Cloverfield is a reputation enhancer for Jabrams.
I'm sure Paramount will be irritated if 1-18 winds up being a theatrical
turd nugget...because that lends no incentive to enlist a large alternate
audience to Star Trek, much less the original fan base.
Plus 300 million pennies saved is 300 million pennies earned...seems like
Paramount could find a more efficient way to spend their money if they
felt Cloverfield invited too much risk.
I also think they also know that Jabramz Robot could fart 30 million from
a number of other studios...

Jabramz small screen presence is well known at this point.
Although Joyride and the likes haven't bombed (IMO), Jabramz Robot has
yet to ignite the same level of hype on the silver screen as their TV magic has.
When Cloverfield breaks open that should change drastically...kick it up a notch - BAM (sorry Emeril) .

When Jabramz Robots big screen rep equals their lil' screen rep, the fertilizer
will have the perfect PH balance to grow a huge Star Trek MP.
All the original Trekkers will go in full force, as well as, I'd presume, a
relatively decent sized Jabrams Robot fan base that wouldn't consider
watching ST in theatres...I fall into the latter category (sorry Captain) .
I'm a Lynch/ Tarantino/ Jabramz whore...I'll go outta my way to watch anything they've touched.
I'd never have watched Blue Velvet or Destiny Turns On the Radio if the respective people weren't involved.
It's a crapshoot at times I admit...Hostel payed off very little for me -
as a matter of fact, I still feel Quentin owes me $20 for buying that DVD (Roth gets a pass) .

I don't think it's a coincidence season 4 was pushed up to February
either...you can just about guarantee more people than have already
subscribed to the past seasons will watch Lost this year -
thanks to 1-18-08.
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Great Analysis DR. I also believe Paramount will not let this bomb, way too much hype around it and will get more viewers to Star Trek. Any Trekkies know the money made from the 1st movie, to what the last one drew in? (probably half). They will show off JJ in 01-18 and give trek fans something to look forward too in their film. Maybe a preview trailer on 1-18 for Star trek?

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 		It'll be hard to give a Trek preview before 1-18-08. They just barely have the cast chosen and production starts in November. I don't believe their production starts til march next year (could be wrong on that dont remeber exactly). Maybe something like the batman trailer where it was just the Logo and no actors but that would be it I think. Confused

Then again I could be wrong think they could have a teaser after two months of filming?

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 		speaking of star trek...my new ringtone

http://hjem.wanadoo.dk/~wan13237/darkmateria_the_picard_song.mp3

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brettoniasam wrote:
I think Paramount's bottom line is that they're looking at the bottom line...for "Star Trek."

Pretty much, Paramount hired JJ for one reason above all: to make "Star Trek" into a megabajillion blockbuster. That's why they threw him $190 million for that and gushed that he's the next Steven Spielberg.

So, $30 million to throw JJ a bone to go play in the sandbox, flex his creative talent? No prob. Paramount could care less if "Cloverfield" sinks or swims, so long as "Trek" brings home the gold.


That's actually a really interesting analysis.

I'll forfeit my point, because--for the majority of the people interested in this movie--it doesn't matter if it's rated R or PG13.

Ultimately, the movie's content will determine its rating, not the other way around.
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brettoniasam wrote:
Pretty much, Paramount hired JJ for one reason above all: to make "Star Trek" into a megabajillion blockbuster.



I'm all for THAT!! Haven't had one since THE VOYAGE HOME and WRATH OF KHAN
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Rekidk wrote:

Ultimately, the movie's content will determine its rating, not the other way around.


that was on some proverb-esque level of brilliance hahah. impressive

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Rekidk wrote:
Ultimately, the movie's content will determine its rating, not the other way around.

Not nesacarly(sp) true. If they want this film to be pg-13, it will be pg-13. If they want content included that will make it R, they can make it R. I realize the point is not as strong for wanting a film to be a R movie, but we see this all the time with pg-13 movies.
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hmghosthoost wrote:
brettoniasam wrote:
Pretty much, Paramount hired JJ for one reason above all: to make "Star Trek" into a megabajillion blockbuster.



I'm all for THAT!! Haven't had one since THE VOYAGE HOME and WRATH OF KHAN


wrath of khan was fantastic! I like trhe look of jjs idea a direct prequel to the series! and casting sylar as spock was genius

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 		Yeah, I doubt Paramount would actually want Cloverfield to bomb, of course -- but I think they're expecting only modest results from it. Again, as long as JJ doesn't do something drastic like turn Cloverfield into kiddie porn or blatantly insult Trekkies (*GASP* -- Shocked Silly ), then Paramount will be happy so long as JJ remembers that Trek is the only thing that matters.

And yes, JJ really does have the potential to turn Trek into a bona fide GREAT film -- not just a much-needed shot in the arm for the franchise -- on the order of Trek II. (Khan stands alone -- even outside and beyond the Trek franchise -- as truly one of the greatest films I've ever seen. Montalban's plastic chestpiece and Shatner's bellowing "KHAAAAAAN" notwithstanding, of course. Wink )

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It was just too weird to watch a Hobbit
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PS.... Believe it or not, that was in fact Mantalban's real chest. Director Nicholas Meyer said that this was the number one question ever asked him about any of his movies.

SOURCE: Star Trek The Wrath of Kahn - The Director's Edition 2-Disc Set, interview with Ricardo Mantalban and Nicholas Meyer.
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 		i heard one time that when a movie's trailer says "not yet rated" it usually means that its either R and they wanna do so more editing to try to bump it down to PG-13 or from PG-13 down to PG... any chance this could be happening with cloverfield too? if the IMDb report about it being NYR is true of course...

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 		By the way, here is your first look at SPOCK from the upcoming Trek movie

http://www.movieweb.com/news/70/24370.php

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