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[TRAILHEAD] Juan Ramon (Guinness Tipping Point ARG)
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CaptKing
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Wait, with adobe acrobat you can decompile PDF's?

Let me look into that.

EDIT: Well, wasn't able to retrieve the original layers (dont have adobe acrobat), but I did find some info on the document, using Adobe Bridge

Created: 10/22/2007 @ 3:06:42 PM
File Created: 10/24/2007 @ 11:22:39 PM

File size: 1.09 MB
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Looking at the Spanish, obviously the person who wrote it doesnt know how to speak it...

First sentence "Mi nombre es..." is wrong. It should be "Me llamo"

and the final sentence says "good things will come to those who wait"

I speak Spanish, so this should be a huge help. And looking over the video, what Juan is saying, is indeed what the subtitles tell us.
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Sorry for the triple post, but a big find! Searching in youtube for "Good things come for those who wait", I come up with a few videos:
first is an old Guinness ad with the slogan "good things come to those who wait"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=D1PBHMeX7ko

second is "a short film called hands"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IQDjynOzgCk

which leads you to
www.guinnesshands.com

Well, the site allows you to make a short film, in the same style as the Hands ad.
Its made by using your keyboard, with 5 different hand movements. each letter on your keyboard is a different movement.

After you make your sequence, you add music. Well, one of the songs on there called "Cante Flamenco" is the same song being played in the Juan Ramon movie!

My theory is that we have to find the right sequence of letters and send it to guiness, with "Cante Flamenco" playing, and we might get the next hint.

Also, Cante Flamenco may be important as well.

EDIT: Some people are wondering what the numbers 119500 mean, well I just found out that it takes 119.5 sec to pour "the perfect Guinness pint" that is why the tagline is "good things come to those who wait"
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CaptKing, I think you may be right about the pouring time and the number. And the frame by frame might be a clue to get us to use that site you mentioned. Definite things to try - they said it wasn't going to be easy.

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New Clue

Captain King, thanks for the idea. Yep, I think we may be on the right track. I made a video and there is definitely a clue on it that appeared.

I thought - what would be a word with 5 letters that we could use in this game. Ramon! So I made a Ramon video with the music from the You Tube, and it plays. At the end of the video, the hands turn over, and there is a secret message written on the fingers! The letters are backward and they go real quick so I haven't been able to get them yet. I have to watch it over and over again just to get one letter.

So far on the left hand I got HITW(or upside down M)C
On the right have to watch it again.
Here is my video - please watch and help decifer the clue.

Thanks

http://tinyurl.com/2oo9c2

edited: I can't get his url to hyperlink here on the website for some reason, but if you copy and paste it in your address bar it should work; it works for me.

The secret message is not the part about "please tell me the website address please"; that is me authoring it. It is right before that when the hands turn over and on the tip of the fingers is the secret message.

EDIT - I've tinyurled the URL for you, both to make it work (I think it was not working because it contains some reserved characters) and to keep it from stretching the forum ... 2 for 1! -xnbomb

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Didn't see it mentioned, but on the fingers in the make your own hands video, there are letters written on the fingertips.

I see H, I, T, W (or M), C AND Q, O, G, S, E

Here's a screencap cropped to just the fingers
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Palm
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RedHatty wrote:
Didn't see it mentioned, but on the fingers in the make your own hands video, there are letters written on the fingertips.

I see H, I, T, W (or M), C AND Q, O, G, S, E

Here's a screencap cropped to just the fingers


Thanks. I was watching it over and over again to get the letters. Finally, we got the clue -now what does it mean?

Edited: well, it's not a word since there is no U to go with the Q

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Could this be what the numbers on the dominos are for? Matching finger order with the hands, or at least spelling something out to give us the hint?

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maybe, but the W (or M) is sideways, the C and the S are reversed - don't know if that means anything but ...
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Letters

If you assign the letters to what number it would be on the alphabet, it comes out:
8-9-20-13-3-17-15-7-19-5

10 numbers seem too long for a combination.

edited: using an M instead of a W.
I am thinking it is an M

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Movie

Wait a minute, why don't we try making another movie (actually 2 movies) using that combination of letters and maybe we will get another clue. 5 fingers, 5 spaces for the movie on hands.

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I tried qogse but nothing different came up
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RedHatty wrote:
I tried qogse but nothing different came up


tried HITMC and got the same clue as before.

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I am thinking the dominos really play a big part in this. There is slight of hand with these hands in the movie, and there is slight of hand with the dominos. But have no idea what this clue can mean. Since this was the ad that was referring to frame by frame, maybe we should check out the swimming ad as well for a clue.

from the Guinness website - Welcome to Surfer:
Welcome to Surfer - one of the most celebrated ads of recent times. Part of the 'Good Things Come to Those who Wait' campaign,

Edited: here is the link - I don't see an obvious clue though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAk2wUkmguk

Edited again: found a cache of a promo by the ad agency and it says that we have to piece together a new film:

"To be the first to see the new ad you must solve a series of clues, codes and puzzles and piece together the new film…but don't expect it to be easy."

There is 16 frames to a foot - I hope we don't have to find 16 pieces and piece them together into a foot (unless they are referring to the film edges Bruce already did).

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Golden Dominos

ok... somehow i missed that it was a search for a golden domino....
from http://t4w.blogs.com/spinningaround/2007/10/the-hunt-for-th.html posted just 16 hours ago:

Quote:

AMV BBDO (our parent company) has just launched new work for Guinness: "the search for the golden domino".

In an unlikely twist on the norm, they are encouraging people to hunt down the ad themselves - makes a change from a 90-second spot in a Champion's League game?!

So far, all that we know (from this post on YouTube) is that there is a fella by the name of Juan Ramon who is giving clues scattered around the web. Then there is this PDF letter in which instructions are offered - with some hidden words in the background (TRAIN, TENTH, 29th, 2.00 pm, 4.30 pm, 6.00 pm, 7.30 pm, Linden, Hoyland, Howard Taylor and Brown - thanks to Duncans TV for those).

SO, a trip to the Guinness website and a watch of the video there gives the first of the codes - 119500 - which opens up the first couple of seconds of the ad on the site.

Curiously, there is a search box on the Guinness site, so we're assuming that the right searches on Google will start to give an idea of where the rest of the codes are hidden. Much fun and games, no doubt will follow. Likewise, the items in the site repay clicking - the radio being the only thing that is working so far. Hmmm ...

The only question that is bothering us is that of whether anyone will be bothered to track the clues down and solve the mystery simply to find an ad. There is no news of what might be on offer to those who crack it and, without some incentive, you have to wonder ...

Still, we'll keep an eye on the buzz around the web and let folks know of any developments that pop up.

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