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[TRAILHEAD] Juan Ramon (Guinness Tipping Point ARG)
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ncfriend
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 		geez ya think they blocked our US IP addresses?

no, i'm at Juan Ramon's office right now.
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 		The problem is, we HAVE to find the answer to #7. I know I sound like a broken record, but I really do believe we are REALLY out of order right now...
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jbfinbar wrote:
Well since I had so much trouble with #3 I do know that you can access the other sites before you have solved the previous puzzle it just won't let you do anything. The site remains frozen/inactive until you go in the proper order and solve the previous puzzle. I was trying to solve #4 before #3 and I didn't realize it for the longest time that's when I finally figured out that I had skipped one puzzle and when I went back and solved #3 #4's site became active and only then allowed me to use it.


Are you saying that what we have for domino 7 is incorrect? That we skipped the correct #7? The clip we have only gives us carniceria guzman (hoy) or hospedaje de alida (??) aleman

ETA: We are at the right spot, we just ahve to wait, I am sure of it - the email from guzmam:
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Hola!

Thanks for your email to Pedro Guzmam. He has been expecting you and will be very glad that you have found him!

Pedro has gone for a very important meeting with Juan Ramon (the mayor).

He will be back in the next few days with some important information for you!

Cosas buenas llegan a los que esperan!
Good things come to those who wait

Carnicería Guzmam

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 		No I think we're at the right spot for #8, I wasn't saying that. Sorry for the confusion. I was trying to say that I think all these new sites we are looking at won't work until we do solve the Carniceria Guzmam puzzle first. I think all these new sites are real sites for the game they just won't activate until we solve all the puzzles in their proper order.

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jbfinbar wrote:
No I think we're at the right spot for #8, I wasn't saying that. Sorry for the confusion. I was trying to say that I think all these new sites we are looking at won't work until we do solve the Carniceria Guzmam puzzle first. I think all these new sites are real sites for the game they just won't activate until we solve all the puzzles in their proper order.


Exactly, I agree.

But, to wait in an ARG/puzzle game... well puzzles me!
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 		bull
OK, to analyze the page,

I am wondering if the bull has more to do with it.
It is labled "Black Bull"
It has the title: Pintura de mi Toro "El Che" (translates to Painting of my Toro "the Che")
There is a picture of a bull in each top corner of the page.
There is a picture of a bull in each top corner of the banner sized logo.
We had a painting clue in the past
The family picture and the Guzmam pictures do not have "alt" tags, but the bull and the meat does.
"El Che" on Wikipedia means a marxist leader which does not seem to fit - but not knowing Spanish, maybe it just means leader
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Che
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Hidden items:
the description meta tag says Visit Carniceria Guzmam with a picture of a 6:6 domino
keywords are: pedro guzmam, guzmam, carniceria, chorizo, ham, Carniceria guzman, butcher,carne,butchers
A myspace address that does not work anymore: http://www.myspace.com/pedroguzmam
He says please visit my shop (2ce now - once in description meta tag, and once in hidden text)
Tells a gambling joke where the "steaks are too high"

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Ham relationship:
there is a link to spanish ham named Jamon

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And now I realize that the source code was changed for the description - because I posted it before and it orignially said:

Had the domino with the 6:6 and In the source code of the page, the discription says:

Venga y pruebe nuestro repertorio de Jamon
edited: translated it says:
Come and you prove our repertoire of Jamon

(instead of the "Visit Carniceria Guzmam" as posted above in the hidden text)

so why was this changed?
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Conclusion: Still lost. Or are we to visit a meat shop somewhere? A differnt website?

Edited: the only conclusion I come up with is that this is alot of bull. lol

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 		okay, I agree, but I also firmly believe that we are in a holding pattern - here's why - email all the other sites & here are the replies:

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A balanced diet is very important!

Usually we weigh up the flour for you, but sometimes we let our customers have a go...

www.molinodefenix.com

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Stick with quality, strike with flair!

We're currently dealing with your enquiry. In the meantime, why not CHECK OUT OUR SPECIAL EDITION MATCHBOX? We've designed it to mark the occasion of almost 250 years on the business!

Who would have thought six rooms might emerge as four?


>> Haga su pedido hoy!

www.dominodorado.com

Quote:
A clean car is a sign of a happy life, bro...

www.arpatallerdeautos.com

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¿Todavía no puede encontrar lo que estás buscando?

Any other time we'd be happy to help, but nobody is around at the present.
We've taken DUPLICATES of some of our best titles as part of a very special contribution to this year's Tipping Festival.

We hope you will be there to witness the spectacle, which is to be FILMED for the very first time!

Our advice would be to JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER every once in a while...

¡Verte allí!

www.arenasdetiempo.com


These each gave us an idea of what to do, guzmam is the only one that says wait a few days
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 		I am wondering if the slow down was planned or if it was due to the fact that back in July a legal US citizen named Pedro Guzman was detained and deported by US homeland security, (and the UK Guinness people just figured that out).... seems like it wouldnt affect it too much, but you never know what corporate minds are thinking...
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 		As for the [:::|:::], all of the website's source-codes have that in the title. I believe that is the clue that lets the player know that it is an in-game website.

EDIT: Also, an interesting fact about this site, it is the only site that is not primarily flash-based. it is all controlled by java-script, not sure if that means anything or not.
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 		When you click on Juan Ramon on the game site he gives you information. I was wondering if it may change with each clue you are working on. He says there is more than one way to solve to the puzzle. In the last film clip there is a sign that says Hospedaje (lodging.) Which we haven't looked into I don't think. Maybe we can get in that way.

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 		clue 7
weighing flour = the store
check out he special edition matchbox - store item
why did 6 rooms emerge as 4?
description meta tag says Visit Carniceria Guzmam
He says please visit my shop; hidden text of his website

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 		just a wild guess, but the source, the steaks joke - I *think* that when this site goes active, we will have to move the pick of the steaks to the upper left bull which has a hiorn that looks like a hook

PS - I know I have been guilty of this, the name is GUZMAM not guzman
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 		BTW how do you guys find all that hidden info on those website pages? Embarassed

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RedHatty wrote:
just a wild guess, but the source, the steaks joke - I *think* that when this site goes active, we will have to move the pick of the steaks to the upper left bull which has a hiorn that looks like a hook

PS - I know I have been guilty of this, the name is GUZMAM not guzman


Don't forget the 2 matchsticks on the chalkboard (very hard to see) may come active too.

So the conclusion is - the site is not active - are we 100% sure we are in the right order?

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jbfinbar wrote:
BTW how do you guys find all that hidden info on those website pages? Embarassed


Right click on the screen, select "view source" and then read the code.

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