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Interview with TJ Miller
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 		Another sort of interview...
There's a short video about TJ Miller in relationship to his new role on the new show Carpoolers on ABC's website, found here:
http://abc.go.com/fallpreview/carpoolers/index
Click the thumbnail with his face.
It's a good sampling of what he sounds like, and of course we see more of his face than we are probably going to in the movie.
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e2c wrote:
it would make sense with all that stuff Miller said...the whole film in a handheld camera look, however I remember one of those set videos that were leaked on the net a few months back. it shows rob and a blond chick being trapped under a bridge with lots of shit falling apart and onto them. there was no handheld camera there.... could you really film everything from one point of view up til then and then go back to a more conventional camera mode?


There's been some speculation about who the girl was with Rob, but I recall seeing other set pics that showed it was clearly Odette Yustman (Beth) with Michael Stahl-David (Rob) -- it's just that she had a lot of dust in her hair from the debris.

And yeah, TJ Miller was nowhere to be seen during that shot, so I'm thinking that one, at least, wasn't done in "Hud-cam."

Here's my spec: the vast majority of the film is, indeed, Hud-cam. He gets wounded during the escape, but manages to get airlifted off Manhattan by the military at the end, and thinks himself to be sole survivor of the attack.

Then, in epilogue, we cut back to Manhattan, find Rob and Beth still alive -- forgotten, abandoned, left to die. And die, they do. But not before that one final scene in Central Park (maybe there's a defensive reason for going there...could the monster be vulnerable there? Out in the open? Exposed to nature/trees or whatever? )....and Rob finally gets the balls to tell Beth how he feels, then Monster squashes the poor bastard. End.

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And yeah, TJ Miller was nowhere to be seen during that shot, so I'm thinking that one, at least, wasn't done in "Hud-cam."

Would Hud have to be present during filming for something to be in "Hud-cam"? What I mean is, could they film the scene from his perspective, dubbing his voice in later? I'm wondering, logistically, how feasible it would be to require an actor to be present for the shooting of all scenes of a movie. Seems to me that could be cost prohibitive - not from the perspective of salary, which I presume is fixed, but from an "overhead" perspective.

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e2c wrote:
it would make sense with all that stuff Miller said...the whole film in a handheld camera look, however I remember one of those set videos that were leaked on the net a few months back. it shows rob and a blond chick being trapped under a bridge with lots of shit falling apart and onto them. there was no handheld camera there.... could you really film everything from one point of view up til then and then go back to a more conventional camera mode?


Just some random thoughts...

if the movie starts in conventional style - maybe a next day news broadcast or something - and, then, shows the footage from the recovered camera (Hud's), they could then go back to conventional at the end. Just a thought.

Also, I recently saw a kick-ass movie that moved from 1st person, documentary style to conventional "3rd person omniscient" style - it was "Behind the Mask, the Rise of Leslie Vernon." That movie was a kind of deconstruction of slasher films - damn funny too - so, it totally worked when they shifted perspective, and it went from documentary style to bona-fide slasher film. Anyway, it has been done before, albiet in a very unique context (any fans of Jason, Michael, Freddy movies MUST see "Behind the Mask"). Don't know if it could work for Cloverfield though.

If all the characters die, then I would think they would have to go to conventional style at the end - in Blair Witch, they didn't need to do this, b/c they were out in the woods; but audiences will probably want to know what happened to New York, right? Personally, my money is on the movie being all HUD-cam, until the last of the Slusho 7 gets killed and the tape ends; and, then, they end the movie with News Broadcasts the next day (as the 'epilogue').

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And yeah, TJ Miller was nowhere to be seen during that shot, so I'm thinking that one, at least, wasn't done in "Hud-cam."

Would Hud have to be present during filming for something to be in "Hud-cam"? What I mean is, could they film the scene from his perspective, dubbing his voice in later? I'm wondering, logistically, how feasible it would be to require an actor to be present for the shooting of all scenes of a movie. Seems to me that could be cost prohibitive - not from the perspective of salary, which I presume is fixed, but from an "overhead" perspective.


You're right, they would get a real cameraman. There have been other cameras' seen(and even talked about , was it that Ken guy? I forget) so it may look hand held but of a better quality. Hopefully the lesson was learnt from The Blair Witch Project not to make viewers motion sick.

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 		i dont think that all of the slusho 7 dies.

if you look at the call sheet ( and i've mentioned this before ) it has three names on it; Beth, Hud, and Rob. The call sheet is supposed to be the last scene in the movie so if thats the case then these three are the only ones that survive.

I could be wrong but I think this outcome is very likely. What do you guys think?

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Here's my spec: the vast majority of the film is, indeed, Hud-cam. He gets wounded during the escape, but manages to get airlifted off Manhattan by the military at the end, and thinks himself to be sole survivor of the attack.

Then, in epilogue, we cut back to Manhattan, find Rob and Beth still alive -- forgotten, abandoned, left to die. And die, they do. But not before that one final scene in Central Park (maybe there's a defensive reason for going there...could the monster be vulnerable there? Out in the open? Exposed to nature/trees or whatever? )....and Rob finally gets the balls to tell Beth how he feels, then Monster squashes the poor bastard. End.


That sounds pretty awesome. I wish that's how it ended, but I don't think it will - its the kind of ending a writer loves and the studio hates because it leaves people feeling unsettled. This is kind of obvious, but I think they'll want to at least leave open the opportunity for a sequel and keep a few of them alive so that there in the next version there are people who know what's going on and/or that the audience can already relate to. JJA said this is going to be "the American Godzilla" which to me seems to suggest that they want to make this into a franchise. That is, I think that if this movie does respectably well, we can expect more of them in the future. Like Monstrous Bloop vs. Mothra or something.

Also, I'm sort of wondering whether we should take TJ at face value here. I mean, Bad Robot loves to leak red herrings about its projects and he DID say he got in trouble with them for blabbing. Maybe they're like "OK, you screwed up, but we'll think about hiring you in the sequel if you go give an interview and tell them X" and X is totally untrue. Just sayin'.[/quote]

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 		Has anyone thought that he is the monster?

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 		i doubt hud would the monster... huds at the party and throught the trailer and idk how that could make sense but if they could tie the two together i'd be pretty crazy... dont see how though... sry Smile

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sonckrinde wrote:
Has anyone thought that he is the monster?


Pretty sure that's a new one. Can you be more specific on how you think this would play out? It's an interesting idea, and definitely an unexpected twist, but like the poster above me, my imagination isn't quite grasping this. Do you think the monster is the one filming this whole thing? Or that Hud turns into the monster after drinking Slusho?

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 		yeah seriously... explain it more... shoulda waited before i discarded the idea... my fault... now please explain... :-p

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 		Heck, we might never even see the monster in the first movie, just vague glimpses based on what info we get from his other projects like Lost. I just hope if we don't get all the info we need in the first movie they don't draw it out as long as they have took to answer questions on Lost, lol.

I don't think he's lying in the interview. But I do suspect that the info released in it was planned.

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jfiscus wrote:

I don't think he's lying in the interview. But I do suspect that the info released in it was planned.


yea actually..that cud well b...interesting

@the idea that hud is the monster.

whad he films his own attack on the city?


@hud being POV shot in the last scene (so he is present)
ok that could well be....didnt think of that...maybe they did some shot reverse shots later or so.

i would like to add that also in that scene its almost sure they will be running under the bridge from the park/city so a mobile camera( filmed by hud) would make sense. otherwise they could have filmed it on a set in the soundstage.

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e2c wrote:
jfiscus wrote:

I don't think he's lying in the interview. But I do suspect that the info released in it was planned.


yea actually..that cud well b...interesting

@the idea that hud is the monster.

whad he films his own attack on the city?


@hud being POV shot in the last scene (so he is present)
ok that could well be....didnt think of that...maybe they did some shot reverse shots later or so.

i would like to add that also in that scene its almost sure they will be running under the bridge from the park/city so a mobile camera( filmed by hud) would make sense. otherwise they could have filmed it on a set in the soundstage.


No way Hud is the monster...makes no sense. If he's filming, who is making the roar? How does he blow-up the building? How does he rip off the SOL head and toss it into the city? Not to mention he's only 6' tall.

Regarding the Central Park scene...I remember when it was a hot topic on these forums back in early August and regular poster "Nooneimportant77" took some video of the shoot...if you get a chance go back and view the footage (don't know if its available to view anymore)...you'll see that Rob and Beth are focusing on each other and only talking to themselves...if Hud is supposed to be there, he's dead or incapacitated because they're not paying any attention to him (someone earlier in this topic speculated this was the case).

Seeing that there are no new updates to discuss, here is the thread in question: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20461&start=300

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 		Why does Hollywood always have this lapse in logic? I think we can arguably agree that the monster isn't wider than the streets in New York and probably isn't taller than some of the larger buildings there (lest he look like a beanpole). So we aren't dealing with something omnipresent. Why should any of the Slusho 7 die? If the monster is destroying one block, be a couple of blocks over. Save from any debris or shrapanel they should be pretty safe. Blah, Hollywood and their persistence about having a protagonist, antagonist and drama, lol. Mad

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