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CONTACT: I harass Melody until she logs off.
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Varin
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Yliandra wrote:
Ok, even if she is a fictional character (one prone to overreaction often I might add) this is just so silly. He never threatened her. He made really bad jokes and inappropriate advances. Hardly a matter for the police. She should've just given him an ascii finger and be done with it. I think whoever is 'playing' Melody needs to giver her a touch less naivete. Heck I've had real people online say a lot worse in IM's. Smile


I guess this sort of thing puts BTS people in a bit of an awkward position. (And before you ask - No, I'm not Melody) Some people have thinner skin on this sort of thing. Not everyone has tough skin like me or Yliandra Smile and that's ok. Though, I'm not sure if it's the thinner skin of the BTS person showing through here or if the character of Melody is supposed to be that way.
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Varin wrote:
I guess this sort of thing puts BTS people in a bit of an awkward position. (And before you ask - No, I'm not Melody) Some people have thinner skin on this sort of thing. Not everyone has tough skin like me or Yliandra Smile and that's ok. Though, I'm not sure if it's the thinner skin of the BTS person showing through here or if the character of Melody is supposed to be that way.


I think it has to be the BTS person trying to do what she thinks Melody would do. If she were really so bothered, she wouldn't be posting about it on IU (in character) and dragging players into it. She would've just had him banned from the game, or at least had a letter from the PMs sent censuring him and warning him not to do it again. It's not as if he did it under some assumed name, he used his Ideltech handle (from when he still worked for them). No way would she still be bothering with the character issues. I personally think she's LHAO at the whole thing. But I still think she has to give Melody a little more backbone and not make her so whiney. Sure that kind of humor bugs some people if it's serious, but I can't imagine anyone really thinks Mos is such a creep that he would've sent that to an actual person who had just gotten smacked by their sig other. Melody (the character) would've probably been offended and pissed, but she knows enough about the net not to go spouting off about police involvement. At least she's been portrayed as such IMHO.
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Yliandra wrote:

I think it has to be the BTS person trying to do what she thinks Melody would do. If she were really so bothered, she wouldn't be posting about it on IU (in character) and dragging players into it. She would've just had him banned from the game, or at least had a letter from the PMs sent censuring him and warning him not to do it again.


I agree that's probably what's happening. I guess Melody is supposed to be a super lightweight. I mean, come on, she got hit by Thad and played super victim. I would've told the loser to f off rather than go home and cry about it. A little too girly-girl for my taste.
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I think it has to be the BTS person trying to do what she thinks Melody would do. If she were really so bothered, she wouldn't be posting about it on IU (in character) and dragging players into it. She would've just had him banned from the game, or at least had a letter from the PMs sent censuring him and warning him not to do it again.


Yes I agree, she is trying to respond in-game. I think we need to try to understand how Melody feels and not guess about what the BTS person thinks. Melody's point is that she can appeal to the players, her friends for help, but she doesn't have any in-game leverage.

I don't know about Melody's character : she is a small town girl and pretty naive. Her trip to Eugene was the first time she ever left Amboy. It's not too hard to believe that she would be confused and upset by this. Unlike Yli, this is her first use of IM and chat to communicate I think. She didn't know what to do at all. Smile

Now to contradict myself about trying to guess about the PMs, I suspect they don't want this type of interaction. And, I would guess that Mos will get reprimanded by Alecia, if he hasn't already. It doesn't seem likely that she authorized this chat--what did OE gain from it?

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What the F

I think this convo was completely out of line, not to mention in very bad taste. It is one thing to mess around and push peoples buttons, but the joke about battered women and the reference to "where you pee" is a bit juvenile.

just my two cents worth......

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Now, I realize that technical solutions are not exactly the best solution to social issues (for instance, see: V-Chip and all of the debates about how people would use it as a replacement for talking to their kids about what is good/bad, right/wrong, appropriate/inappropriate). But don't most IM clients have some form of warning and/or blocking? I know that AIM has a that warning feature, and all should have the ability to block. If things get a little too out of hand (regardless of whether something is "in-game" or "out-of-game"), the offender can be blocked.

This is really no different from the "Ban" feature in IRC. It is also not too different from not answering your phone when you see the CallerID of someone you do not want to speak to. The magic of telecommunications is that if things get nasty, you can disconnect. Nobody makes you listen to the telemarketer; you can just hang up. In ARGS, there is no HR Department to call. There is no referee to call foul and disqualify a player. If someone is being childish, the technology involved makes it easy for a BTS person to ignore that player (or for a moderator to delete their inappropriate post to the forums).

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Mos wrote:
10:02PM ljoyce: Melody, my only request is that you touch me where I pee.


Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

maybe I'm just a sick little monkey, but that's funny!

Lessee, so far in this game we've had a kidnapping/imprisonment, explodey cars, a 3-way (and probably more) love triangle, and the See You Next Tuesday word, not to mention a character (Alicia) who has not-so-subtley threatened bodily harm against players.

Mos says a couple of off-color jokes, and people are getting bent out of shape?

Rolling Eyes

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Re: What the F

-Stick wrote:
Ithe joke about battered women and the reference to "where you pee" is a bit juvenile.



As long as we're being tasteless...I heard a comedian on Conan the other night...i forget his name, but his opening joke was something along the lines of.....

Quote:
Battered women......it sure sounds delicious!"



SM
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bagsbee's icon offends me.

I plan on sueing SpaceBass for allowing it to ruin my day.

If you disagree with me, I'll see you in court. I have my rights!

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Re: CONTACT: I harass Melody until she logs off.

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09:41PM ljoyce: Hi, Melody!
09:42PM mheller: Hi be right with you
09:50PM mheller: OK, hello Mr. Joyce, how are you tonight!
09:50PM ljoyce: I am very fine, and you?
09:50PM mheller: I'm doing well. All locked in for the night
09:51PM ljoyce: Hey Melody, what do you tell a woman with two black eyes?
09:51PM ljoyce: Nothing you haven't already told her twice.
09:51PM mheller: <cough>
LOG OFF
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09:54PM mheller: I'm hav9ing a hard time deciding how you mean that comment Mr. Joyce, care to elaborate?
09:55PM ljoyce: You know who else was having a hard time? Jude.
LOG OFF, dammit
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09:55PM mheller: Mr. Joyce, I fail to see the point you are trying to make
09:56PM ljoyce: Although I admit the context was quite a bit different.
09:56PM ljoyce: Let's not be so formal, Melody. Don't call me "Mr. Joyce." Call me "Danger."
09:57PM mheller: Are you threatening me Mr. Joyce?
09:57PM ljoyce: Of course not. In fact, don't call me "Danger." Call me "Cupcake."
09:57PM mheller: Maybe I would prefer to call a cop.
OK, but why aren't you logging off?
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09:58PM ljoyce: Please. The authorities are so..messy. Can't we keep this between ourselves?
09:58PM ljoyce: We used to be close, Melody.
09:59PM ljoyce: I remember following you around while you strolled through the park..
09:59PM mheller: When were we ever close Mr. Joyce?
09:59PM mheller: Which park?\
09:59PM ljoyce: Let's not play games, Melody.
09:59PM mheller: I think you are playing enough for both of us
10:00PM ljoyce: I don't play, it is against my religion.
10:00PM ljoyce: That religion being Discordianism.
10:00PM mheller: Discord Mr. Joyce is a matter of opinion
10:01PM ljoyce: Why do you continue to insist on calling me "Mr. Joyce?"
10:01PM mheller: LJoyce
10:01PM ljoyce: I have a compromise. Perhaps "Pretzel" would be to your liking.
10:01PM mheller: Mrs. Joyce then
10:02PM ljoyce: No, Mr. Joyce is more accurate, but as I said I would like this to be less formal.
10:02PM ljoyce: Melody, my only request is that you touch me where I pee.
LOG OFF??
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10:03PM mheller: You are a nut case and a jerk
10:03PM ljoyce: What did I ever do to you?
10:05PM mheller: your comment of a minute ago offensive
10:05PM ljoyce: That brings up a number of philosophical questions.
10:05PM ljoyce: Is the comment itself offensive, or do you place the value "offensive" to it?
10:06PM mheller: I find it offensive
10:06PM ljoyce: Then you agree that the comment itself has no inherent value of offensiveness?
10:06PM mheller: and request that you refrain from similar comments to me
10:07PM ljoyce: But you just said that YOU placed the value "offensive" on it.
10:07PM ljoyce: The solution is much more simple.
10:07PM ljoyce: If you merely don't find it offensive, it will not be offensive.
10:08PM ljoyce: You must agree with this logical conclusion.
10:10PM mheller: No I find that you are a weird stalker and will be reported to the police
10:10PM ljoyce: That leads us to yet more philosophical questions.
10:10PM ljoyce: From where does authority derive?

And, at this point, it was enough. Interesting time to terminate.

This was, by all definitions, a dialogue.
It was not forced. At least four times, the "offended" party chose to continue the dialogue.

Harassment? With a willing partner?

(edited to thwart the spelling nazis)

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dmax wrote:
bagsbee's icon offends me.

I plan on sueing SpaceBass for allowing it to ruin my day.

If you disagree with me, I'll see you in court. I have my rights!


dmax's mere presence on this board is harassment. Only an apology from SpaceBass and $100,000,000,000 will take away my mental anguish. I would like to feel whole again.

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bagsbee wrote:
dmax wrote:
bagsbee's icon offends me.

I plan on sueing SpaceBass for allowing it to ruin my day.

If you disagree with me, I'll see you in court. I have my rights!


dmax's mere presence on this board is harassment. Only an apology from SpaceBass and $100,000,000,000 will take away my mental anguish. I would like to feel whole again.


heh.
he said "feel hole"


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Alecia is jealous.

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Mos, I am VERY disappointed in your lack of judgement. It seems that your emotions toward Ms. Heller have caused you to make rash decisions.

1... Ms. Heller a member of the press. Albeit, a press of small concequence, she is still the press. We are trying to keep our mission discreet. Do you understand my meaning? Pray tell, what would happen if Ms. Heller writes up your defilement of her on the internet and a LARGE media conglomerant picks it up?????

2... Part of the understanding I presumed you had when you gained employ from my company was that by working for me, you take on the role of an agent. You gather information; ply your prey with carrots (NOT sticks!!!); you gain their trust, and then you use them down to the last drop. What did you hope to accomplish by telling Ms. Heller "I want you to touch me where I pee"? If you must think of it this way, err on the side of bloody James Bond.

3... If you are interacting with people, they should not be aware of the fact that YOU are interacting with them. You are a ghost. You don't exist. Mark my words, you WILL NOT EXIST if you try a move like that again.

Let's see you play penitent; the pervert is growing old.


Okay, okay. I won't do anything like that again. I'm sorry that I apparently offended some people.
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I'm impressed.

THAT's how you reprimand someone in-game.

Hats off, really.

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Heh, told ya you were gonna pay for that, and ironically, I didn't even have to lift a finger, the PMs took care of it themselves. Twisted Evil
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