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[META][INFO] New Trailer Viewed Early!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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tinytim
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I don't want to make any claims about the valididty of this since I don't have enough information, but all I can say is Goodbye. This movie sounds crappy now.





Ok so I'm not leaving but God I hope that isn't the trailer. The continuity errors.
Fast forward thru teaser then 7 hrs later "My name is Rob Hawkins approx. 7 hrs ago someTHING attacked the city". What he didnt videotape anything in 7 hours???

And we know from the TJ interview he is heard in most of the movie but not seen meanign he is the cameraman. This is very........

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tinytim wrote:
What he didnt videotape anything in 7 hours???


First time poster, but I feel compelled to;

If your city is being attacked by a monster, do you either run around trying to not die, and phoning people you love, or do you videotape it while shouting "THIS IS YOUTUBE MATERIAL!"?

It's perfectly feasible that a break in videotaping could have occoured.

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I don't know, or really care much, about the authenticity of the post linked above. I understand the doubt though, after the flood of fake data and the tiny bit of "real" data in this promotion, the people in this sub-forum are super-suspicious and, maybe even understandably, a tad hostile to new data.

I don't think that attitude will work well in other games - but there isn't much to do about fighting it here. People are tired of all the fake nonsense and attempts to benefit from the wave of 1-18-08 publicity that they have seen happen from the day this thing started

My main point: No way is this movie called Cloverfield.

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Cloverfield is a better title than "Overnight"

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tinytim
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netdemon wrote:
tinytim wrote:
What he didnt videotape anything in 7 hours???


First time poster, but I feel compelled to;

If your city is being attacked by a monster, do you either run around trying to not die, and phoning people you love, or do you videotape it while shouting "THIS IS YOUTUBE MATERIAL!"?

It's perfectly feasible that a break in videotaping could have occoured.


Whether it's feasible in real life or not. We're talking about movie that is supposedly based around the happenings/situation of a group of twenty-somethings during the attack on NY city by something. The whole premise of the movie IS that someone made a tape of the attack. Why did he keep filming as the fireballs crashed to the roof during the teaser or the head coming and rolling down the street? He coulda just dropped the camera then and ran, that would've been the more likely time anyway, when it is completely unknown what is going on. If he holds onto the camera up til then why drop it later when they then know they are running/escaping for their lives.

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Money, he wants the money. Could you imagine the amount of money you could get for capturing something like that on camera?. News channels around the world would be paying alot of money.

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Considering the amount of very real footage of disastrous events where people are dying (tsunamis, assaults, crashes, etc.) and some of the dangerous times to be taking footage that we see uploaded to YouTube and other such sites, the idea of at least one person hanging on to a camera through this, out of a city of millions is completely plausible.
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tinytim wrote:
I don't want to make any claims about the valididty of this since I don't have enough information, but all I can say is Goodbye. This movie sounds crappy now.


Agreed. That trailer description sounds like a remake of Godzilla (U.S.), and a complete flop.



tinytim wrote:

Ok so I'm not leaving but God I hope that isn't the trailer. The continuity errors.
Fast forward thru teaser then 7 hrs later "My name is Rob Hawkins approx. 7 hrs ago someTHING attacked the city". What he didnt videotape anything in 7 hours???

And we know from the TJ interview he is heard in most of the movie but not seen meanign he is the cameraman.


Minor correction, Hud is the cameraman, not Rob. It sounds like the movie is pieced together from bits of recordings Hud took while fleeing, during breaks in the chaos, etc. I'd sure love to have his camera's battery life though.
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It doesn't have to make sense why he filmed what he filmed. You need some sort of footage to make a movie. With most action/horror/suspense movies if the main characters ran the hell away from the danger, like normal people would do, then there would be no movie for us to speculate about ad nauseam.

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Evil wrote:

tinytim wrote:

Ok so I'm not leaving but God I hope that isn't the trailer. The continuity errors.
Fast forward thru teaser then 7 hrs later "My name is Rob Hawkins approx. 7 hrs ago someTHING attacked the city". What he didnt videotape anything in 7 hours???

And we know from the TJ interview he is heard in most of the movie but not seen meanign he is the cameraman.


Minor correction, Hud is the cameraman, not Rob. It sounds like the movie is pieced together from bits of recordings Hud took while fleeing, during breaks in the chaos, etc. I'd sure love to have his camera's battery life though.


I know Hud is the cameraman, that's what my point was trying to say, but the notes taken by the guy who viewed the "trailer" says that Rob is looking into the camera and saying "7 hours ago ......". Whether Hud is taping Rob saying this or Rob is taping himself is not made clear by the report.

Sorry if it was confusing and unclear Embarassed

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Finch wrote:
It doesn't have to make sense why he filmed what he filmed. You need some sort of footage to make a movie. With most action/horror/suspense movies if the main characters ran the hell away from the danger, like normal people would do, then there would be no movie for us to speculate about ad nauseam.


Finch, I think your final words are a clue - the title of the movie is "Ad Nauseam!" Laughing

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Chump Force 1 wrote:
When I read the dialogue of the solider saying "Whatever it is, its winning", it reminded me of speculation on stuff I read a couple of months ago on this and other sites.

Aspects and discussion of what's been described in this trailer that was reported on CHUD can be found;

Here: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33835
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And here: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21015
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And here: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20690&

So either these earlier (some date back to early August) predictions were right after all or this new report is bogus.

The fact that its Halloween makes it a little suspect, however its been reported by a confirmed source (although I'd like to know how he got to see it when any info on this movie is harder to get then just about any upcoming release).

Personally to me it sounds pretty cool and I'll keep an open mind. Besides it doesn't really matter, we know if it's accurate on Nov 16.


I'm considering the report just speculation until I see the new trailer for myself. The whole thing sounds like a rehash of earlier rumors, and those links you provided reinforce that suspicion. In fact, the reported dialog is EXACTLY the same as the AICN report. It just doesn't "feel" right. I sincerely hope it's false, or this movie is going to be a major let down.
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i just thought I'd address some of the opposing views to the authenticity of the trailer.. this is certainly not to take the perspective that it is definitely real because I am also quite skeptical, but simply to stimulate critical analysis of the flaws of the putative new trailer's rundown..

complaints regarding the jump in chronology (i.e. complaints that Hud didn't film anything between the initial attack and the aftermath when Rob addresses the camera) - I think it's important to remember that trailers (even intricately designed ones like these) do not always follow chronology of the movie.. they may have just wanted some face-time for the narrator to lead off the trailer, which is a pretty standard trailer storytelling device.. I do not think this has to be indicative of the continuity of the film... i suspect that reported $30mm had to go to something

complaints regarding whether or not someone would realistically film it - I mean, hasn't this already been confirmed by the first trailer and the subsequent Hud interview that at least some portions of the movie would be filmed this way.. and as far as realism, there are no shortage of recent disasters that have been captured memorably by digital cameras and cell phones of people who were in the wake of danger... this is a very culturally and temporally relevant storytelling device

the small complaint about the brooklyn bridge - as a New Yorker, I have to agree with Euchre that the bridge itself would be nearly impossible to have a helicopter on.. the spaces between the cable's that suspend it are quite narrow having walked beneath them many times; however, I think that one can alternatively read this portion of the trailer synopsis as being a shot of the brooklyn bridge followed by an unrelated or nearby shot of a helicopter landing elsewhere (sidenote: it would be hard to land a helicopter anywhere in manhattan other than the various building-top heli-pads)

again.. all this being said, it certainly seems suspicious that more surprises wouldn't be revealed (esp. after the 'awe' factor of the first trailer) so I am far from sold on this trailer.. just playing devil's advocate a bit with some of the complaints..

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tinytim wrote:
I know Hud is the cameraman, that's what my point was trying to say, but the notes taken by the guy who viewed the "trailer" says that Rob is looking into the camera and saying "7 hours ago ......". Whether Hud is taping Rob saying this or Rob is taping himself is not made clear by the report.

Sorry if it was confusing and unclear Embarassed


Nah, I read your post too fast. You did say TJ, who is Hud, but I haven't made that distinction yet. I just think of Hud as Hud, not TJ the actor. My bad.

What I do know is that after the new trailer airs, there's either going to be some major gloating around here (if it's true, I believe it was spoiled back in August), or some major backpedaling by the reporter and all the sites that printed it as true based on his single report.
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If this movie really is called Cloverfield and the dialouge sounds like something out of some third-rate cheeseball blockbuster like Armageddon or Godzilla (like it does in this alleged trailer), I am going to be really, really disappointed in JJ & Co for their complete and utter lack of creativity. Maybe its real, maybe it isn't, but I have to say - I hope for their sake that it's fake because otherwise there are going to be some really annoyed people out there, including me.

Others are right though, every single scene on there has been discussed already at some level on these boards, which makes it really suspicious. Also, who are all these people talking in the trailer that aren't identified? Surely if this writer was a fan he could recognize Rob, Jamie, Beth, etc. by their photos and surely at least some of them would appear in a 2nd trailer at some point - why aren't they ID'd? Like "Rob says to the police officer - Have you seen Beth?" This seems odd to me.

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