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Salsaman1991
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 		Umm, guys, have you heard the news?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/04/wpak104.xml
I know, it's not on Saudi arabia, yet...it's too close...

Watch your backs on what you google...
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 		Re: Translation of Final Directory
As found on the server JC got the satellite image from.
Satire wrote:
I asked a friend of mine (a professional Japanese translator) to take a look at the name of that last directory. Here's what he said:

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I took a look at the characters you sent. I don't recognize the combination of the two characters together and the combination doesn't show up in any of my Japanese dictionaries, so I'm guessing it's probably Chinese. And as I just happen to have a Chinese dictionary on hand, I looked it up and in Chinese it means something like "remedy" or "repair" or "correction". Or something to that effect.


I asked my Chinese-teaching friend. She said it meant "correct something wrong" or, in other words, fix.
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Salsaman1991
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 		Re: Translation of Final Directory
As found on the server JC got the satellite image from.
redct wrote:
Satire wrote:
I asked a friend of mine (a professional Japanese translator) to take a look at the name of that last directory. Here's what he said:

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I took a look at the characters you sent. I don't recognize the combination of the two characters together and the combination doesn't show up in any of my Japanese dictionaries, so I'm guessing it's probably Chinese. And as I just happen to have a Chinese dictionary on hand, I looked it up and in Chinese it means something like "remedy" or "repair" or "correction". Or something to that effect.


I asked my Chinese-teaching friend. She said it meant "correct something wrong" or, in other words, fix.


That's the problem with languages, everything has 5 different meanings, and unless you know the context, it makes no sense or could be used in all 5 of them xD But we get the picture already. There's something that needs to be healed/fixed/repaired...
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 		Okay, so, let's consider the context.

First of all, obviously, it's a directory on a computer, so it may well be some kind of troubleshooting program.

That mundanity aside, let's consider the real important bit of context we have: for some reason, that directories name is in a completely different language than the rest of them. Why? Why a different language, and then why Chinese?
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 		Have we ever decoded the last 2 Twitter posts? They may hold a clue that we need.

I'd also like to know what embassy JC was working at.
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 		Well, JC did 'ping' the IP address of a Chinese embassy in the bash screen on red-monday.com
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 		Hey, if anyone at all has access to that George Noorey coast to coast show, he just has a guy talking about AQ Khan, pres. mushareff, and pakistan's arsenal. i will see if i can get a copy tomorrow...

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wkelly42 wrote:
Have we ever decoded the last 2 Twitter posts? They may hold a clue that we need.

I'd also like to know what embassy JC was working at.


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
11:15 PM November 01, 2007
A666 464 4644 6446 6 646 44 4466 6 646 444 44666 66666A
OOO -O- -O-- O--O O O-O -- --OO O O-O --- --OOO OOOOO
S K Y P E R M Z E R O 7 5

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hakrqifqiqlhwrcbtdunexwyoctlsre.
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Datango wrote:
wkelly42 wrote:
Have we ever decoded the last 2 Twitter posts? They may hold a clue that we need.

I'd also like to know what embassy JC was working at.


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
11:15 PM November 01, 2007
A666 464 4644 6446 6 646 44 4466 6 646 444 44666 66666A
OOO -O- -O-- O--O O O-O -- --OO O O-O --- --OOO OOOOO
S K Y P E R M Z E R O 7 5

Latest
hakrqifqiqlhwrcbtdunexwyoctlsre.
godai yuhsaku here I stand invisible

Thanks -- in all the searching for the sat photo, I missed it.
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 		The bash changes depending on whether you login with 'gabriel' or 'nereus.' At least, that's what it looks like to me.

[quote="groovewaffle"]
Salsaman1991 wrote:

I think he is referring to the bash output that flashes quickly across the screen before redirecting to the countdown on red-monday.com.

thebruce transcribed it on the first page:
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bash-3.07m$ pwd (34.041102816268854, -118.44313144683838)
/home/SARC
bash-3.07m$ cd /usr/jimchu/app-shells/bash
bash-3.07m$ ls-al
total 24
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Aug 24 22:55 .
drwxr-xr-x 26 root root 4096 Aug 27 02:36 . .
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13780 Aug 8 22:36 ChangeLog
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2072 Aug 24 12:06 Embassy Manifest
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3720 May 14 12:05 bash-2.05b-r11.ebuild
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3516 May 2 20:05 bash-2.05b-r9.ebuild
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5083 May 3 22:35 bash-3.0-r11.ebuild
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4038 Mar 29 21:11 bash-3.0-r9.ebuild
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 3 22:35 files
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 164 Dec 29 2006 redmonday.xml

(the last line then changes to)
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 164 Dec 29 2006 diggsux sdftw

bash-3.07m$ ping -q -cl 211.99.196.166
PING 211.99.196.166 56(84) bytes of data.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

(during the ping text, the last line becomes)
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 164 Dec 29 2006 red-monday.doc

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godai
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Degausser wrote:
Okay, so, let's consider the context.

First of all, obviously, it's a directory on a computer, so it may well be some kind of troubleshooting program.

That mundanity aside, let's consider the real important bit of context we have: for some reason, that directories name is in a completely different language than the rest of them. Why? Why a different language, and then why Chinese?



Third symbol = http://www.manythings.org/kanji/d/6551.htm
also listed as salvation; save; help; rescue; reclaim.

And the First two looks like they might translate into Plain aka simple.

So i'm thinking its simply a rescue tool.

It displaying in chinese isn't too big a deal as linux can handle directories like that if set up. And had if JC is working at an embassy it may be the chinese embassy/consulate. or such.

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wkelly42 wrote:
The bash changes depending on whether you login with 'gabriel' or 'nereus.' At least, that's what it looks like to me.


Actually, both "gabriel" and "nereus" show the same thing now: the AQ Khan pdf.

thebruce quoted the old "gabriel" screen, but it has been changed.
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godai wrote:
Degausser wrote:
Okay, so, let's consider the context.

First of all, obviously, it's a directory on a computer, so it may well be some kind of troubleshooting program.

That mundanity aside, let's consider the real important bit of context we have: for some reason, that directories name is in a completely different language than the rest of them. Why? Why a different language, and then why Chinese?



Third symbol = http://www.manythings.org/kanji/d/6551.htm
also listed as salvation; save; help; rescue; reclaim.

And the First two looks like they might translate into Plain aka simple.

So i'm thinking its simply a rescue tool.

It displaying in chinese isn't too big a deal as linux can handle directories like that if set up. And had if JC is working at an embassy it may be the chinese embassy/consulate. or such.


Right, there's nothing odd about a directory being in Chinese. But the question is, why would there be an inconsistency? If it's a chinese server/computer, okay, but then why have english as the language for the other directories?

The name certainly doesn't seem to imply any particular connection to the chinese.

Here's a thought: What the if the code is part of the message? For example, it could be a directory of files stolen from a chinese fileserver that were damaged in the process and are being repaired. Pure speculation, but worth thinking about, at least in my opinion.
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godai
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 		Also,

The software being used is called Midnight Commander

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Commander

The inconsistancy comes from multiple install processes.

The "Kanji directory" might of been created by an install process, unzipping an archive or some such that was created by a chinese/japanes user.

While the rest of the directories created by hand or by following guidelines.

I believe most linux use standard ascii set by default but for different alphabet support. It adds support and doesn't remove the base package.

Haven't looked into this deeply since I primarily deal with english Smile

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 		Yup, it's midnight commander with a different than default theme. I've never seen Chinese/Japanese shown in an xterm (at least in Mac OS X) but I don't have much experience with international linux too.

EDIT: "Official Midnight Commander builds still don't support UTF-8 locales (Bug #7936). There are, however, unofficial patches from Red Hat and SUSE (added input, editor, viewer).

UTF-8 is unicode, which I think is needed for characters like Chinese ones. It's not represented in Ascii.

godai wrote:
Also,

The software being used is called Midnight Commander

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Commander

The inconsistancy comes from multiple install processes.

The "Kanji directory" might of been created by an install process, unzipping an archive or some such that was created by a chinese/japanes user.

While the rest of the directories created by hand or by following guidelines.

I believe most linux use standard ascii set by default but for different alphabet support. It adds support and doesn't remove the base package.

Haven't looked into this deeply since I primarily deal with english Smile

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