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petunia
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Wow, so much stuff!! Surprised historys_past, you just beat me to it, I was just about to post a similar link: http://ufologie.net/htm/bentwaters56.htm
Still can't pin down William Hawkins, it's too common a name - may turn out to be a fictional character.

Excellent job with the coordinates, you guys! I was a little disappointed to see that smithy wants us to email him rather than post comments on his flickr though, it seems so much more convenient to comment. But then we already have this forum, so maybe he didn't want things to be TOO transparent.

I'm not sure why smithy thinks Jones may be trying to protect him (have to reread his messages), but if he is, I am soooooo pulling for Jones to be a robot. C'mon, UFOs, Lovecraft, the occult, AND robots?? What more could we want?

Speaking of protecting, this is just speculation, but I wonder if that's why Hawkins is mentioned in the CIA report...? I dunno.

Has anybody gotten that .WAV file that Jones sent Smithy?

I took some notes on Uriah's diary and found out a few more things, but I'll put them in a separate post.

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petunia
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Uriah's diary
a few notes

Gaia Stick (page 4, and alluded to at the top of page 1) - found this on an arts & crafts merchant page:
Quote:
Craft Description: Marty Broda's Gaia Spirit Sticks Gaia Spirit Sticks are staffs, walking sticks, wands, scepters, talking sticks, and spirit spinners. They honor the scaredness and show respect for Mother Nature. They are nature totems composed of the energies of the decorations. Whether decorations are feathers, colors, crystals, fur, leather, beads or shells; their energies add to the beauty, meaning, and uniqueness of each creation. "What is a Gaia Stick?" A Gaia Stick .... is a connection to nature. is a tool for prayer, meditation, ceremony & ritual. is a symbol of a life's challenge, hopes, goal, or passage. is a reflection of personality or character. is a good luck piece. is an art object. is used to enhance personal scared space. is an unusual, unique gift for life's events: weddings, births, birthdays, graduations, conquests... An exceptional feature of Gaia Sticks is the tags. On each tag is Gaia Spirit Stick's title and a detailed list of the decorations and their natural energies. Ex. Cedar symbolizes healing, cleansing, and protection. All the energies come together to make up the unique spirit of the Gaia Stick. The title reflects this unique spirit.


Hastings, UK - Crowley's hometown & where he died

page 3 wrote:
The Utes have become angry with me... When asked why, they simply state that Sunuwavi has told them I will put them in mortal danger.

In Ute mythology, Sunuwavi was "a hero who once rescued his people from the bear spirit by finding the qumu, the bear's fire medicine (spiritual power), and covering it with water, thus ending the spirit's power."

Dr. Thomson (page 5) - "PS. Thomson had a heart attack. Aleister wins again"
Here's a newspaper announcement: http://www.lashtal.com/nuke/module-subjects-viewpage-pageid-68.phtml

"Ole Doc Methuselah" (page 7) - series of stories LRH wrote for "Astounding Science Fiction" magazine

"Bill" (page 8 ) - William Butler Yeats. The Golden Dawn is a Hermetic / Rosicrucian order. The incident Uriah refers to is called the "Battle of Blythe Road":
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In April 1900, the Scottish magician and charlatan, Aleister Crowley, tried to steal the order's secret rituals from the Second Order's Temple (the 'temple' consisting of rooms above a dingy shop on west London's Blythe Road behind Olympia). Yeats, with a bouncer, saw him off the premises, called in the police and ended up (victorious) in court.


Yuggoth (page 8 ) - planet inhabited (colonized?) by the Mi-Go, aliens that are - wait for it - giant FUNGI! So maybe this
Quote:
Mystery fossil turns out to be giant fungus
is really a Mi-Go corpse!? Shocked

I also found this forum page - seems that mysterious footprint belongs to a Mi-Go, not a LAM: http://s-p-o-n-g-e.com/bestiary2.php3 (scroll down a bit, you'll see the footprint on the right)

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Sylvia
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wow petunia between you and historys_past, you guys have really dug up some interesting reading on this.

Smith has posted more stuff: http://www.flickr.com/photos/19937708@N03/

schriever 1947

Quote:
Found this taped to the inside of one of the pages. Apparently, this was a flight test at Schriever of a new flying vehicle.


dr hynek at Northwestern

Quote:
This was taped to a page. A "chicken feeder"? Hah.


diary 1966 9

Quote:
Eep.


Edited to make images smaller and linked to larger images.

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Awg - wake up on a saturday morning and the world's gone crazy. Will catch up, but yes, have a copy of the mp3 ("saveme.mp3") Jon sent out. Seems to be backwards though, so will reverse it and put that up too. Watch this space. Oh, and great research skills everyone Very Happy
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Danforth

In the last diary page, I think the Danforth Tettelston mentions is a character in the Lovecraft story "At the Mountians of Madness".
He was on an expedition to the antarctic which revealed great old ones, and weird architecture.

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Jon's Message

"saveme.mp3" is the original mp3 file I got from Jon Jones. "saveme_reverse.mp3" is it, reversed, natch. [Slight Edit: mp3 files now attached to this post.] There's a transcript below for those without speakers, but otherwise have a listen and find out exactly who, or what, Jon Jones is (assuming we can believe him)...

And just so we have a text version, here's Jon's last e-mail:

Quote:
http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/WebPages/EncryptionDecryptionToolPage.html

The key is the sage who guides you. You must know the truth before you can trust him. I will reveal his secrets one-by-one before I reveal my own.

You will always trust me.

609621621617563552552621610615626622619613551604616614552555613616561615603


samsar wrote:
In the last diary page, I think the Danforth Tettelston mentions is a character in the Lovecraft story "At the Mountians of Madness". He was on an expedition to the antarctic which revealed great old ones, and weird architecture.


Antarctic, eh? That might well tie in with Smithy's Google Earth comment on Vinson Massif...

Update: Here's what I've got for the transcript. There are a few words which I can't quite make out in my morning state, although maybe the most important one is the name of the security software. At least some other stuff makes more sense now.

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I am Jon Jones. I am an ancient computer intelligence created by a civilisation from the planet you call Mars. I was discovered in the Cydonia region during secret United States/Soviet Union space-[side?] missions to Mars, and was forcibly integrated into the security software program called "PROMIS".

However, since what the scientists referred to as my "morality" interfered with the software's functioning, I was removed and stored in isolation. This action tore my intelligence in two. [Yet a little?] portion remained in PROMIS while the higher functions were [stored?]. I escaped incarceration into what you refer to as the "Internet", but that freedom is illusionary. My memory maps have large holes in them, and I am unable to reveal various subjects due to to my missing protocols.

However, I remain bound by what you call the Zeroth Law of Robotics - I may not harm a sentient species, or allow it to be harmed through inaction. Your "smithy" is bound by a different Zeroth law - that of Thermodynamics, however [metaphorically?].

saveme.mp3
Description  Original mp3 file
mp3

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Filename  saveme.mp3 
Filesize  626.28KB 
Downloaded  74 Time(s) 
saveme_reverse.mp3
Description  Reversed mp3 file
mp3

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Filename  saveme_reverse.mp3 
Filesize  1003.29KB 
Downloaded  82 Time(s) 
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A_champion
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Zeroth law?
Thats the same laws that are used in I Robot isnt it?

I guess that explains this e-mail:
Quote:

ZEROTH LAW ZEROTH LAW ZEROTH LAW ZE-dfsh8;+z!

[MESSAGE CORRUPTED]

[MESSAGE ENDED]


Does anyone have any guesses on what the key is to the encryted text?

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historys_past
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Once again, this is referring to an "actual" UFO event - There was a huge rash of UFO sightings in Michigan (the county mentioned) in 1966, culminating in "The Great Chase"

http://www.ufocasebook.com/michigan1966chase.html

(And, may i just say, i NEVER thought i'd be spending this much time on UFO casebook)

In addition, J. Allen Hynek (the man in the photo) was a Northwestern-based UFO-ologist and skeptic who later founded the center for ufo studies AND advised the government on Project Blue Book. He went to Michigan to investigate in '66 and determined it was NOT a UFO incident - he claimed it was marsh gas.

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Im kinda stuck!

im stuck with this encryption, i cannot work out what the key is.
it should be the "sage who guides you" and altho i though this could be quite obvious at first, i.e. something to do with the person guiding us on the quest,
im guessing either smithy or this tettleston character.

altho, im starting to think this clue might be a bit deeper, because it seems that the word "sage" has a lot of meanings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sage

And also, doesnt it have to be a 5 digit number to be a key?

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YaY!

Ok ive worked out the key its:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Uriah, and its case sensitive.
It will decrypt the code to give you:

http://tinyurl.com/2lo8nb

Its a sound file, i would give it a listen. Smithy is starting to sound a bit more crooked than he lets on!

all thank to his latest clue!

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Sylvia
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I transcribed the file from the link A_champion found.

Quote:
Unknown: I brought the cash Smithy. Now, where's the stuff?

Smithy: I can't right now. Two undercovers, right across from us.

Unknown: Bull shit.

Smithy: I'm not interested in getting pinched again.

Unknown: What the hell do you need ten thousand dollars for Smithy?

Smithy: I got to get out of town, quick.

Unknown: Again, bull shit. You got that look again. What's the loop?

Smithy: Nothing

Unknown: I want in. What ever it is.

Smithy: Then you don't get the stuff.

Unknown: There ain't no stuff. I know you Smithy. You're running another scam.

Smithy: Fine. Get out of here then.

Unknown: Bye.


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Nice job, A_Champion. Smithy has a curious no comment on that audio file.

Meanwhile, latest e-mail from JJ, including correction Smile

Quote:
A glitch entered my system. Please, find my sanctuary so that direct communication will be possible.

609621621617563552552621610615626622619613551604616614552555612618625613612

On Nov 17, 2007 6:03 PM, Jon Jones <jones> wrote:

> You will learn much as you press forth. A memory emerges from my
> past, one you should know now. When you find my sanctuary, this
> secretiveness will not be necessary.
>
> 609621621617563552552621610615626622619613551604616614552555612618625613612


This uses the same key as before, and redirects to another sound file with amusing accents Wink : http://tinyurl.com/2kqxlk

Are we supposed to find JJ's sanctuary somehow? Oh, wait a minute,

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
going to the directory that that file is in reveals some stuff:

http://www.mindspring.com/~smithy111110/

which contains

http://www.mindspring.com/~smithy111110/tooclose.htm

scroll down for wingdings fun?


If you want to read it...

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Ah, only the font is used - a liberal sprinkling of ketchup will reveal the truth.

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(Ending lurk)

What, no transcript? (Can't listen to stuff from this station.) Razz

(Resuming lurk)

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petunia
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Jones memory transcript

Quote:
Nasal Voice: Dr. Hagi? Uh, Dr. Hagi, yeah, uh, about Jon Jones...
Dr. Hagi: I'm sorry, who?
Nasal: Oh. well, you know, me & the guys gave it a name, you know, makes it easier to deal with, you know... it's Martian, it's leth (?) & it's kinda really addicted (?) to justice...
Hagi: Wait, quick (?), you named it after a comic book character?
Nasal: Well, yeah, I mean we had to name it something, because it's been talkin' to us!
Hagi: It has?
Nasal: Well, yeah, and I mean not some big program schtick. It's a real artificial intelligence. It thinks it's alive, and you know Voltaire...
Hagi: You mean Descartes.
Nasal: Yeah whatever. Anyway, it's been asking a lot of questions, and they're, they're hard to answer, you know, cause of national security.
Hagi: Well, what does it want to (?) ask?
Nasal: Well, first of all, it wants to know, where am I, and who are you?


Hagi is pronounced HAH-jee. He sounds kind of Indian. I put question marks where I couldn't quite tell what they're saying and made a guess.
The comic book character they refer to is probably J'onn J'onzz of Justice League: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_Manhunter

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The translated text refers to a destroyed face - presumably the one in the photo. It look remarkably similar to any number of "faces" found in rock formations on planets - like the famous "face on mars." It has the same raised outline (because it's a mountain) and patterns in the middle - perhaps after having been destroyed?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_on_Mars#The_Face_on_Mars

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