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casemyo
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WARNING: LONG POST AND POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Ok. I'm going to take some time to post some photographic evidence discrediting some of the supposed demise scenes of the slusho 7.
The proof is in rob's clothing.
Lets start with Hud:
everybody and their mother thinks that this is the end of him.
now notice rob is still full suit. but here in the tunnel with marlena, rob, and lily he (hud) is still there filming but rob is now in a more casual sweaty shirt look having lost both jacket and tie.
thus hud has to live past that scene where he falls. i also chose to capture that moment in the tunnel scene to point out that the 3 of them are all looking up and to the left. something is there. maybe its the same thing trying to get in here.
which brings me to lily. obviously she was scratched by something in that last pic. and as Slusholover pointed out in another thread with this pic (the look on robs face) and the soldiers line "theres nothing we can do for her now" theyve discovered through the light that something bad is inside her.
i dont believe that this means she will explode (yet at least) cause of this pic.
i believe they take her away for further study or whatever. now some people make the mistake of believing that that is the same helicopter that is falling wildy towards a crash landing at the end of the trailer. that is not true. 2 completely different helicopters. the people in the crashing helicopter are hud, rob, and beth. evidence is here.
rob (in tshirt now) and beth running towards the copter. hud still filming. you can tell that its beth and rob in the helicopter in the HD trailer. i couldnt get a good screengrab of that though. i believe that it doesnt get too high up before crashing so rob and beth survive but THATS where hud dies. heres what i think is beth and rob after the crash.
now after this rob and beth lose the military and go to central park where rob (in tshirt still thus proving the chronological aspect of this) now has camera duty finally now that hud is dead and they make the "my name is robert hawkins" vid before the bridge collapses on them and they die.
phfew. that took long enough haha. ill post marlena, hawk, and jamie stuff later. im beat for now.
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:34 pm
dalphx
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Very good casemyo! But every shot does not to have Hud filming it. For example...the still photo of Soldier, lily,lena,rob,HUD,soldier walking into medical area...whose filming it?...so some of your points are great but then not all have to be Hud filming it.
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:41 pm
Nighthawk
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Joined: 14 Jul 2007 Posts: 4751 Location: Miami, Florida, USA, Earth
A.J. wrote:
One thing is that HUD most likely does not die in the scene where he falls over because later shots show them down in the subway and somebody has to be filming
At the beginning of the new trailer ROB is filming, and that's already after he loses the jacket.
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:49 pm
Chump Force 1
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casemyo wrote:
now notice rob is still full suit. but here in the tunnel with marlena, rob, and lily he (hud) is still there filming but rob is now in a more casual sweaty shirt look having lost both jacket and tie.
Great post! Excellent analysis. Can't really disagree on anything you said. Minor point...regarding the fate of Rob's jacket, looks like he gave it to Lily somewhere in the subway...she appears to be wearing it in this pic.
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:54 pm
Everything's Magic
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I'm sad that we've figured this all out xD It's ruined the movie even though it's really fun.
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:56 pm
rhesusmonkeyboy
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[INFO] Yup, Rob definitely gave away the jacket Excellent job, CaseMyo
casemyo wrote:
thus hud has to live past that scene where he falls. i also chose to capture that moment in the tunnel scene to point out that the 3 of them are all looking up and to the left. something is there. maybe its the same thing trying to get in here.
I couldn't really see the jacket, so I turned up the "dark" range of images. If you look here, you can super duper definitely see the jacket.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t259/louis_b_tique/Cloverfield/ssroblilylenajacket.jpg
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:15 am
brettoniasam
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Nighthawk wrote:
A.J. wrote:
One thing is that HUD most likely does not die in the scene where he falls over because later shots show them down in the subway and somebody has to be filming
At the beginning of the new trailer ROB is filming, and that's already after he loses the jacket.
Not really sure where Rob's "soliloquy" enters into the timeframe...it *could* be after everyone else has bought the farm, but it could also be early on in the movie, with most of the crew still alive. Possibility: since Hud said he wants to film the night's events "so everyone will, you know, know what happened," he might look to his Main Dude Rob as a leader and suggest during some lull in the action that Rob speak directly into the camera and tell the world what he knows.
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:54 am
NeoNK1
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another point is that the camera is supposedly found on coney island. so if rob had the camera and then the bridge fell on him and beth how did the camera end up on coney island? me thinks the helicopter took off from coney island and when it crashed the camera was left behind. also another thing because we all speculate the timeline, don't forget there is the possibility that during the film the group could get seperated and meet up again later or some may choose a diffrent course of action than the rest of the group. maybe why jason is missing through most of the trailers. maybe he went to check on their parents or something.
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:05 am
terrapinbear
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Re: [SPEC][SEMI-SPOILERS]Fates of the Slusho Seven
brettoniasam wrote:
Maybe she 'splodes; maybe she gives birth to an alien critter like poor old Ashe;
It was poor old Kane that gave birth to an alien critter, Ash was just an enabler.
peace out y'all
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:28 am
Euchre
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NeoNK1 wrote:
another point is that the camera is supposedly found on coney island. so if rob had the camera and then the bridge fell on him and beth how did the camera end up on coney island? me thinks the helicopter took off from coney island and when it crashed the camera was left behind.
Uh, the camera is retrieved at Central Park, as per the beginning of the trailer. The footage of Rob and Beth under the bridge was taken in Central Park. If you look at the camera shot of the helicopter you'll notice it's taking off near some tall buildings, and it doesn't look like Coney Island at all.
(Note: The helicopter is also not taking off from the bridge, as many had surmised from the CHUD report. This is because the CHUD report got the order wrong, stating the bridge shot was before the take off. The opposite is true.)
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:16 pm
Nighthawk
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Euchre wrote:
NeoNK1 wrote:
another point is that the camera is supposedly found on coney island. so if rob had the camera and then the bridge fell on him and beth how did the camera end up on coney island? me thinks the helicopter took off from coney island and when it crashed the camera was left behind.
Uh, the camera is retrieved at Central Park, as per the beginning of the trailer. The footage of Rob and Beth under the bridge was taken in Central Park. If you look at the camera shot of the helicopter you'll notice it's taking off near some tall buildings, and it doesn't look like Coney Island at all.
(Note: The helicopter is also not taking off from the bridge, as many had surmised from the CHUD report. This is because the CHUD report got the order wrong, stating the bridge shot was before the take off. The opposite is true.)
I could be wrong, but the only places I can think of where a military chopper has room to land, especiall in an area that's damaged as much as the city appears to be, would be either Central Park or Battery Park. And Battery Park seems too close to this movie's "ground zero". Beyond those two locations, the nearest place would be outside of Manhattan, and hardly the place to go on foot.
And, for that matter, landing a helicopter on the Brooklyn Bridge would be one hell of a feat.
And the helicopter is clearly in daylight - you can see it frame by frame as the camera swings around. It's not lighting or ambient light; it's sky.
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:57 pm
mars.PDX
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dalphx wrote:
Very good casemyo! But every shot does not to have Hud filming it. For example...the still photo of Soldier, lily,lena,rob,HUD,soldier walking into medical area...whose filming it?...so some of your points are great but then not all have to be Hud filming it.
There's a good chance those are production stills. They may not be actual "screen caps" from the film. Granted, I'm not saying I feel 100% either way, but it's something to consider when using those still photos.
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:56 pm
rhesusmonkeyboy
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[SPEC] Any guess who the blur is in the helicopter? Almost seems like it could be Marlena Obviously we don't know jack and can't see anything, but since there's nothing ARG and little ARE going on.
CloverfieldClue's pictures look like it could be the chick in grey, no? Marlena? ( Bad with names )
http://picasaweb.google.com/dennisacevedo/CloverfieldTrailer2Screenshots/photo#5134804202716603042
Lemme know if I just trouted my trousers like a retart.
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:06 pm
djmdjm
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Is it just me or do they look extremely worried at HUD in this picture?
http://bp2.blogger.com/_YPCf8JFgUdI/Rz-vdo4bG_I/AAAAAAAABK4/5EMTyHP_uv4/s1600-h/cloverfield-movie-jjabrams-3.jpg
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:10 pm
NeoNK1
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they do look worried. i wonder if he turns on them and they lock him up. that's why you them pushing on that door. maybe it is one of those moments where the victim hasn't turned yet but the heroes lock them away anyway to save the trouble of having to kill them later. so while they are pushing on the door he is trying frantically to get out because he doesn't want to die. *chills* that would suck.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:46 am
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