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[Spec]The Monster is based on a Giant Deep Sea Isopod
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sOuLii
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 		to me those 2 things you guys think are legs look pretty thin and skinny... much more like bipod or crab legs than bipedal legs...

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sOuLii wrote:
i said its BASED on a isopod...

it still is a mutant of a isopod / whale /lizard or whatever else...


and since its a mutant it could have clawns like this guy http://dougbot.com/forum/cloverfieldPart2B.jpg

one big claw at each "hand" and 2 little ones... like shown in that pic


My bad soul, wasnt trying to shoot down your hypothesis, was more just expanding on it

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 		Can an isopod breath air?
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Can an isopod roar?


If this creature is a water beast. Then we would think it breathes salt water. But Mr. (Ms) Grumpy is spending a great deal of time on the surface. And yea, if it could roar it has to expel air from an air containment through vocals of some sort.

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 		If we momentarily disregard the fact that it sounds like it breathes in before roars, it could also make noise by rubbing together scales or bones like a grasshopper or a rattlesnake does.

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detranova wrote:
If we momentarily disregard the fact that it sounds like it breathes in before roars, it could also make noise by rubbing together scales or bones like a grasshopper or a rattlesnake does.


Yea, I suppose your right. But I am fresh out of acid hits.

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 		The BBC gets there first! (OOG)
This is spooky. I heard it on BBC Radio 4 this morning!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7104421.stm

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Patrick Star wrote:
detranova wrote:
If we momentarily disregard the fact that it sounds like it breathes in before roars, it could also make noise by rubbing together scales or bones like a grasshopper or a rattlesnake does.


Yea, I suppose your right. But I am fresh out of acid hits.


Touché...or not. The possibility still remains that the roar is not vocalized. If the creature is a crustacean or insectoid, this would be the only way it would be able to make such a noise.

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This is spooky. I heard it on BBC Radio 4 this morning!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7104421.stm


Edit: Thanks daisho. You're the best!

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detranova wrote:


What is that? I'm intrigued as I can't access BBC News over here. Anyone care to help me out by explaining?

It's about a fossil found:

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Man-sized sea scorpion claw found

Scale model of the scorpion with a human (Simon Powell)
How the creature compares for size with a human

Animated images
The immense fossilised claw of a 2.5m-long (8ft) sea scorpion has been described by European researchers.

The 390-million-year-old specimen was found in a Germany quarry, the journal Biology Letters reports.

The creature, which has been named Jaekelopterus rhenaniae, would have paddled in a river or swamp.

The size of the beast suggests that spiders, insects, crabs and similar creatures were much larger in the past than previously thought, the team says.

The claw itself measures 46cm - indicating its owner would have been longer even than the average-sized human.

Overall, it exceeds the record for any other sea scorpion (eurypterid) find by nearly 50cm.

The eurypterids are believed to be the extinct aquatic ancestors of modern land scorpions and possibly all arachnids (the class of animals that also includes spiders).

"The biggest scorpion today is nearly 30cm so that shows you how big this creature was," said Dr Simon Braddy from the University of Bristol, UK.

It was one of Dr Braddy's co-authors, Markus Poschmann, who made the discovery in the quarry near Prum in south-west Germany.

"I was loosening pieces of rock with a hammer and chisel when I suddenly realised there was a dark patch of organic matter on a freshly removed slab," he recalled.

"After some cleaning I could identify this as a small part of a large claw. Although I did not know if it was more complete or not, I decided to try and get it out.

"The pieces had to be cleaned separately, dried, and then glued back together. It was then put into a white plaster jacket to stabilise it."

Super-sized meals

The species existed during a period in Earth history when oxygen levels in the atmosphere were much higher than today.

Claw fossil (Markus Poschmann)
The fossil was locked in a siltstone from the Carboniferous Period
And it was those elevated levels, some palaeo-scientists believe, that may have helped drive the super-sized bodies of many of the invertebrates that existed at that time - monster millipedes, huge cockroaches, and jumbo dragonflies.

But Dr Braddy thinks the large scales may have had a lot to do with the absence early on of vertebrate predators. As they came on the scene, these animals would have eaten all the biggest prey specimens.

"The fact that you are big means you are more likely to be seen and to be taken for a tastier morsel," he told BBC News. "Evolution will not select for large size; you want to be small so you can hide away."

The scorpions are thought to have made their first scuttles on to land about 450 million years ago.

While some would have taken up a fully terrestrial existence, others like Jaekelopterus rhenaniae would have maintained an aquatic or semi-aquatic lifestyle.
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 		Alright, thanks daisho! If that (or some variation of it) were our mystery beastie, then about 3/4 of it would be hidden from view...and it'd be about 150m long. Needless to say, that would be pretty awesome.

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detranova wrote:
Alright, thanks daisho! If that (or some variation of it) were our mystery beastie, then about 3/4 of it would be hidden from view...and it'd be about 150m long. Needless to say, that would be pretty awesome.


More than wlecome, I just don't want you geting in trouble Very Happy Censored Crying or Very sad

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 		Rodo & Kurinski Valentine over at AICN reckon this is the monster....

animated gif featuring claw-tail action: http://tinyurl.com/25a4fy

comparison with exact similarities: http://tinyurl.com/39t86e

The goofy-looking sculpt in all its glory: http://tinyurl.com/2o37xy

What do you guys think?

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Hrundi V. Bakshi wrote:
Rodo & Kurinski Valentine over at AICN reckon this is the monster....

animated gif featuring claw-tail action: http://tinyurl.com/25a4fy

comparison with exact similarities: http://tinyurl.com/39t86e

The goofy-looking sculpt in all its glory: http://tinyurl.com/2o37xy

What do you guys think?


Those pics were discredited as being from something else two or three months ago. Too tired to find the link right now. But ask pretty much anyone thats been following things for a while and theyll agree on that. It was totally debunked

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Saiyan King wrote:
Hrundi V. Bakshi wrote:
Rodo & Kurinski Valentine over at AICN reckon this is the monster....

animated gif featuring claw-tail action: http://tinyurl.com/25a4fy

comparison with exact similarities: http://tinyurl.com/39t86e

The goofy-looking sculpt in all its glory: http://tinyurl.com/2o37xy

What do you guys think?


Those pics were discredited as being from something else two or three months ago. Too tired to find the link right now. But ask pretty much anyone thats been following things for a while and theyll agree on that. It was totally debunked


Yeah, I thought the creature sculpt was familiar now you mention it but now that the second trailer is out there ARE some similarities, notably that claw prodruding from its back.

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Hrundi V. Bakshi wrote:
Rodo & Kurinski Valentine over at AICN reckon this is the monster....

animated gif featuring claw-tail action: http://tinyurl.com/25a4fy

comparison with exact similarities: http://tinyurl.com/39t86e

The goofy-looking sculpt in all its glory: http://tinyurl.com/2o37xy

What do you guys think?


wow... thats like the worst biggest monster ive ever seen...i thought gigan looks like shit but that one... if thats rly the monster the movie would be fucked -.-

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 		I don't get "isopod" from anything we've currently seen. It roars, it kinda looks like a giant lizard in the one vague shot we've received, and it clearly has big claws. Isopod? How? (I do love me some giant isopods, though.)

While the monster may (and likely will) draw from real life creatures, I don't think they'd be going through all of this trouble to give us a super-sized version of any existing animal. It's gotta be a hybrid or something completely new.

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