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Caterpillar
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Wasn't referring to that, but rather the title of the pic (images/son-of-where.gif)

The unholy saga of where.gif

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How many digits are there in Fib(n)?
So, now you have enough information to answer the question:
How many digits has F(1000)?
Computing LOG (Phi1000/√5) is the same as computing
1000*LOG(Phi) - (LOG √5) = 1000*LOG Phi - (LOG 5)/2 = 208.638155.
So 1+the whole number part of your answer is the number of digits in F(1000), i.e. 209 digits.
In fact, you can find the first few digits by using the rest of the LOG answer as we'll see in the next section.

No clue what it means or if it help, just saw the Fib(n) and the 209.....

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danohuiginn
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for reference, the numbers in son-of-where.gif are:

n=26 863 810 024 485 359 386 146 727 202 142 923 967 616 609 318 986 952 340 123 175 997 617 981 700 247 881 689 338 369 654 483 356 564 191 827 856 161 443 356 312 976 673 642 210 350 324 634 850 410 377 680 367 334 151 172 899 169 723 197 082 763 985 615 764 450 078 474 174 sixhundredtwentysix

[promised to post this ages ago - blame the computer!]

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I plugged it here and it gave "infinity" as the answer.

I am math impaired (seriously Very Happy )......so I don't even know if that is a useful piece of info or not.

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Shad0 wrote:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
This looks like a golden rectangle, which means that 209-digit number must be a Fibonacci number. Yikes.


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
And it looks like Fib(999) is that horrible 209-digit number. Yippee. Now what? Embarassed


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Shad0 wrote:
Shad0 wrote:
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This looks like a golden rectangle, which means that 209-digit number must be a Fibonacci number. Yikes.


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
And it looks like Fib(999) is that horrible 209-digit number. Yippee. Now what? Embarassed


At some point, I will stop quoting myself...

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
For the record, the sequence '999' first appears at the 762nd digit of pi (after the '3 point,' of course). So where do we type in 267? Rolling Eyes


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deleted so as not to give it away with my big mouth

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deleted so as not to give it away with my big mouth

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Caterpillar wrote:
The url name is t040753shpwuel10fia


And the previous page (Teddy's) was tsaeBehT3cm39x825k0

...which, in reverse, is 0k528x93mc3TheBeast

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Sorry I couldn't send in an email, wasn't around for the early ARGs or in chat much during this adventure, and so wasn't sure to which games all the puzzles referred.

Crying or Very sad

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dont know what posessed, decided to take the filename and ROT it. ROT-6 is the most interesting...

t040753shpwuel10fia original

z040753ynvcakr10log rot6

Ok, the letter Z is 26....

at rot 6...
6 to 26, notice how the last number is spelled out....

the 10log at the end of the redo might say it all around,....
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Caution: Heavy working ahead!

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FIB(999)=2.686381002448626e+208

trim that extra crud off, to get:
2686381002448626

now we compare the number in the image to FIB(999):

2686381002448 53593861467272021.... - from image
2686381002448 626 - fib(999)

we notice they differ at the split (I put that in for ease of reading) and that the last 3 digits are = sixhundredtwentysix (the text part of the number, there has to be a reason that it's in text unlike the rest of the number)

so the bit between the first part of fib(999) and 626 is:
5359386146727202142923967616609318986952340123175997617981700
247881689338369654483356564191827856161443356312976673642210350324634850410377680367334151172899169723197082763985615764450078474174 (length = 193 chars)


Not entirely sure where this leaves us, but I'm pretty sure this is important.

addendum:
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All that working boils down the the number 626 being important. Pfft.

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well I'm a dolt...

didn't even realise it was solved... a little explaination as to how the solution is done would be nice.

Just something plain and simple none of this cryptic solutions... i don't want a puzzle I want an answer Smile
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A detailed walkthrough of the solves of 8 AND 10 would be appreciated.

On 8, I gather we should have focussed just on what lit up, in order going row by row, using the 12 highlighted squares to make six pairs (converting all reds to letters and greens to numbers): so (did I do this right?): 4b-a6-0d-eb-f3-c5

Now sorry to be a dolt but it took me overnight to realize that when Stiltskin said base 16 he meant hex. So convert those pairs from hex to decimal: 75-166-13-235-243-197 and then convert to base 36: 23-4m-d-6j-6r-5h (couldn't find a converter to go direct from base16 to base36)

How do you get from there to thesecret?
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aliendial wrote:
Now sorry to be a dolt but it took me overnight to realize that when Stiltskin said base 16 he meant hex. So convert those pairs from hex to decimal: 75-166-13-235-243-197 and then convert to base 36: 23-4m-d-6j-6r-5h (couldn't find a converter to go direct from base16 to base36)

How do you get from there to thesecret?


For a converter, try this site: http://www.geocities.com/xulfrepus/folder/base.html

Set the drop down boxes, plug in the base 16 result you got without spaces or dashes and press compute. Very Happy
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