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[NEW][IG] Tagruato Hacked: 11-23-07
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Shadowfury
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How many of us think this is an IG hack or an OOG hack here?

Personally, I think theres way too much time and effort put into this to say that its OOG and its some random group messing with a fake corporation, you know?

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Caerwiden wrote:
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No.

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Shadowfury wrote:
How many of us think this is an IG hack or an OOG hack here?

Personally, I think theres way too much time and effort put into this to say that its OOG and its some random group messing with a fake corporation, you know?


I think we've established that its IG.

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I think it's IG or the webmaster would have taken it down within a few hours.
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It's not Ig for me yet until something backs it up or it actually leads somewhere.
I'm sure there has been knowledgable followers of this "ARG" trying to hack it since the site opened and believe it or not it can be done. As for the time they spent on this being a valid reason why it's IG, it isn't, a game jack can be alot more elaborate than a photoshopped picture thrown together in a half an hour. The links from Boldfutura don't mean anything either, I can link my homepage to Tagruato.

We all knew what the next logical step would be, after Jamie talking to Teddy about the "cause" and a gamejacker could take advantage of this.
Using copyright pictures off the first page of a google image search is also suspect to me.

I was suspicious of that whole Investors news thing for a few good reasons and then this comes out soon after, this was a perfect weekend to try a gamejack. Knowing the slow pace of new things being given to us it seems out of place to put new things on the Tagruato site and before every follower of this has a chance to see it (the Investors news update) it's not viewable.

It just doesn't sit right with me and I will be on the fence until something else backs it up. I know I'm pretty much alone with my questioning of this but I'm a cynic at heart.

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Tomorrow will be a important day. In my opinion Tagruato's page should be restored or a communicate be launched some other way. Getting into the logic a big (fake) corporation its a real shame to have your page hacked for so long. Particularly once the weekend is gone, assuming they haven't yet noticed. If tomorrow when they pourportedly go back to office if the page is still hacked it won't mean its OOG, it would rather mean that the Cloverfield team isn't taking its own game seriously enough, in that case, shame on them.

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Red Walrus wrote:
It's not Ig for me yet until something backs it up or it actually leads somewhere.
I'm sure there has been knowledgable followers of this "ARG" trying to hack it since the site opened and believe it or not it can be done. As for the time they spent on this being a valid reason why it's IG, it isn't, a game jack can be alot more elaborate than a photoshopped picture thrown together in a half an hour. The links from Boldfutura don't mean anything either, I can link my homepage to Tagruato.

We all knew what the next logical step would be, after Jamie talking to Teddy about the "cause" and a gamejacker could take advantage of this.
Using copyright pictures off the first page of a google image search is also suspect to me.

I was suspicious of that whole Investors news thing for a few good reasons and then this comes out soon after, this was a perfect weekend to try a gamejack. Knowing the slow pace of new things being given to us it seems out of place to put new things on the Tagruato site and before every follower of this has a chance to see it (the Investors news update) it's not viewable.

It just doesn't sit right with me and I will be on the fence until something else backs it up. I know I'm pretty much alone with my questioning of this but I'm a cynic at heart.


That's the great thing about Abrams he's a master of misdirection. You're never really sure of very much and suspect of everything. That's the way the Lost experience was. Once you have one thing figured out something else pops up and makes you question your first conclusion. It's frustrating but it keeps you interested.
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carlosos wrote:
Tomorrow will be a important day. In my opinion Tagruato's page should be restored or a communicate be launched some other way. Getting into the logic a big (fake) corporation its a real shame to have your page hacked for so long. Particularly once the weekend is gone, assuming they haven't yet noticed. If tomorrow when they pourportedly go back to office if the page is still hacked it won't mean its OOG, it would rather mean that the Cloverfield team isn't taking its own game seriously enough, in that case, shame on them.


Or that the hacker did such a good job of hacking the site that they can't get their page back.

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Caerwiden wrote:
carlosos wrote:
Tomorrow will be a important day. In my opinion Tagruato's page should be restored or a communicate be launched some other way. Getting into the logic a big (fake) corporation its a real shame to have your page hacked for so long. Particularly once the weekend is gone, assuming they haven't yet noticed. If tomorrow when they pourportedly go back to office if the page is still hacked it won't mean its OOG, it would rather mean that the Cloverfield team isn't taking its own game seriously enough, in that case, shame on them.


Or that the hacker did such a good job of hacking the site that they can't get their page back.


Even if the hacker is outside the game, the Cloverfield team should be acting in place of it's Tagruato creation and in that case give an explanation by any other means that can reach the fans. Something like a press release or similar. If it doesn't it's credibility will be touched.

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It's a strange world we live in when people think BoldFutura.org might be real, but that the Tagruato hack is OOG Wink

The Tagruato.jp site is supposed to look like it was hacked, but the site was "hacked" by some one who is "in-game". Someone like Teddy or "the Cause" of something like that. Obviously, Tagruato didn't do this to themselves.

It wasn't hacked by someone OOG, like the photobucket account was.

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CloverfieldClues.com wrote:
It's a strange world we live in when people think BoldFutura.org might be real, but that the Tagruato hack is OOG Wink

The Tagruato.jp site is supposed to look like it was hacked, but the site was "hacked" by some one who is "in-game". Someone like Teddy or "the Cause" of something like that. Obviously, Tagruato didn't do this to themselves.

It wasn't hacked by someone OOG, like the photobucket account was.


I did a domain tools lookup on Tagruato, Slusho, Bold Futura and Jamie and Teddy. All of the sites are hosted at godaddy.com on shared servers. I worked for godaddy a few years ago and here's why a hacker couldn't hi-jack a site for very long.

Even if the hacker hacked into the hosting account at godaddy and not the ftp upload section, it would take the owner, administrator or webmaster a few minutes to have the password reset and gain control of their domain. Each site admin has to give their a four digit PIN or the last four digits of the credit card on file for the account to access and update the domain if something has been changed. With the PIN or card on file they can have the password reset or administrate the domain in whatever way they see fit.

A hacker would never get access to the PIN or card on file because these are stored in the godaddy database. The only way they would have access to this information would be if someone stored the PIN or card number in a subdirectory on the server and only an idiot would do that or if someone at godaddy gave them the information. Even if that were to happen, the admin would be able to get control back with their purchase information, i.e. the last four of the card on file. It is impossible to hijack a domain for very long and keep it that way.

The other option is that the hijacker would forward the domain to another domain by changing the primary and secondary DNS servers that the domain points to and mask the final domain. If this were the case, it takes the DNS servers 24 to 48 hours to refresh in order to cache the new domain. This may very well be the explanation that Tagruato uses in the next few days.

Any way you look at it hijacking a domain is very hard to do. I hope this helps you in understanding the amount of CONTROL a domain admin has and why the hack of Tagruato has to be IG.
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Got to be IG imo. But could be just a whole bunch of nothing at all. The numbering, animals.. could all just be red herrings (haha).

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I think the PM messed up the last clue (investors update, deleted 5Pancakes' post) and they say, wtf, lets make it appear as if the site was hacked!

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Status, that is perhaps the most amazing post I have ever read, and I think it should clarify to people here that for this to be OOG is much more ridiculous then it being IG.

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shivs wrote:
Status, that is perhaps the most amazing post I have ever read, and I think it should clarify to people here that for this to be OOG is much more ridiculous then it being IG.


Absolutely, IG for sure.
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