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TBILL
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Bacon Army wrote:
Here's something that caught my attention -

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n a move surely to shake up the world of physics, Bold Futura has recruited one hundred of the top physics majors graduating from universities around the world. Most highly sought after was Johan Hedberg from Sweden. His internationally-acclaimed thesis on the intricate ecosystems of deep sea crevices landed him immediate tenure at his university but he turned it down for the opportunity to work for Bold Futura.


I thought physicists studied physics, not biology?


that is wierd... Confused

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Chump Force 1
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 		A few thoughts.

Ganu seems worried. I'm in agreement with some previous posts speculating about a sense of urgency on Ganu's part. I think he is feeling vulnerable since the hack and is looking to move forward with whatever plans he has for Tagruato. Even risking the possible destruction of the satellite by overruling the abort command during the lighting storm. I'm no expert, but I have to think this is beyond risky…heck, if there is even the hint of bad weather over Cape Canaveral during a Space Shuttle launch, its immediately scrubbed.

I also don't know how quantum physics fit into a company full of biologists, etc. Just doing a quick Google on Quantum Physics, it seems to deal with time-space and matter at the sub-atomic level (i.e. the atom, electron, proton and neutron, and the particles that make up these elements)…Quantum Physics also can be applied to matter making up the universe as well as help in the study of black-holes.

I'm convinced Rob will soon be employed by Tagruato. The blurb about Mike Siegel on the investor news:
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American Mike Siegel graduated last May in a cap and gown. Now he'll be on the other side of the world in a labcoat. He won't miss home though.

I know Rob is not a scientist, but lost in all the trailer hype the past couple of weeks was the reason for the party…Rob's going away party to Japan. He may not know what's going on when the Monster attacks, but he fits into this back-story to some degree.

Going back to Ganu…I wonder if he is rushing to complete whatever he is trying to accomplish by December 9? We know its something to do with Jamie's present, but maybe this date means something to Tagruato too...

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Augustos
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TBILL wrote:
Bacon Army wrote:
Here's something that caught my attention -

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n a move surely to shake up the world of physics, Bold Futura has recruited one hundred of the top physics majors graduating from universities around the world. Most highly sought after was Johan Hedberg from Sweden. His internationally-acclaimed thesis on the intricate ecosystems of deep sea crevices landed him immediate tenure at his university but he turned it down for the opportunity to work for Bold Futura.


I thought physicists studied physics, not biology?


that is wierd... Confused

Much like there is mechanical engineering, bio-engineering, chemical engineering, electrical engineering (the list goes on), there are also sub-fields of physics. And, while it may be a small field, I imagine bio-physics or chemical physics is in fact one of these areas.

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Augustos wrote:
TBILL wrote:
Bacon Army wrote:
Here's something that caught my attention -

Quote:
n a move surely to shake up the world of physics, Bold Futura has recruited one hundred of the top physics majors graduating from universities around the world. Most highly sought after was Johan Hedberg from Sweden. His internationally-acclaimed thesis on the intricate ecosystems of deep sea crevices landed him immediate tenure at his university but he turned it down for the opportunity to work for Bold Futura.


I thought physicists studied physics, not biology?


that is wierd... Confused

Much like there is mechanical engineering, bio-engineering, chemical engineering, electrical engineering (the list goes on), there are also sub-fields of physics. And, while it may be a small field, I imagine bio-physics or chemical physics is in fact one of these areas.


Wiki article on Biophysics

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Biophysics research today is comprised of several specific biological studies which neither share a unique identifying factor nor subject themselves to clear and concise definitions. The studies included under the umbrella of biophysics range from sequence analysis to neural networks. Biophysics is also concerned with creating mechanical limbs and nanomachines to regulate biological functions, although currently these are more commonly referred to as belonging to the fields of bioengineering and nanotechnology respectively.

Biophysics typically addresses biological questions that are similar to those in biochemistry, but the questions are asked at a molecular level. Traditional studies in biochemistry and molecular biology are conducted using statistical ensemble experiments, typically using pico- to micro-molar concentrations of macromolecules. Because the molecules that comprise living cells are so small, techniques such as PCR amplification, gel blotting, fluorescence labeling and in vivo staining are used so that experimental results are observable with an unaided eye or, at most, optical magnification. Using these techniques, researchers in these subjects attempt to elucidate the complex systems of interactions that give rise to the processes that make life possible. By drawing knowledge and experimental techniques from a wide variety of disciplines, biophysicists are able to indirectly observe or model the structures and interactions of individual molecules or complexes of molecules.

In addition to things like deciphering a protein structure or measuring the kinetics of interactions, biophysics is also understood to encompass research areas that apply models and experimental techniques derived from physics (e.g. electromagnetism and quantum mechanics) to larger systems such as tissues or organs (hence the inclusion of basic neuroscience as well as more applied techniques such as fMRI).


This all hints that Tagruato could be building their own monster...or trying to stop one? Explains Ganu's rush...

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EL Noobacabra
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 		Is no one responding b/c I posted in the wrong topic?
B/c if that's the case, just tell me and I'll try and find where my post belongs and post there, sorry.

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 		Im looking around for stuff about the scientists they named...Johan Hedberg will be impossible to find *well hard at least* because that is a name of a hockey player, I dont know if this has been mentioned before, I just got home from a long day of work and im too lazy to read this entire thread. As far as Mike from America, Im gonna do some more looking around and see what I come up with. Im guessing nothing, but hey, its worth it.

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daisho
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 		Re: Is no one responding b/c I posted in the wrong topic?
EL Noobacabra wrote:
B/c if that's the case, just tell me and I'll try and find where my post belongs and post there, sorry.


Nah, You're fine, I think everyone is just off ruminating currently. Also no a good time for most people in the US where a lot of this board is based.

I like that idea, but it means throwing out a lot of stuff.

In regards to the headlines, they say 1 billion yen are going to space research. That only works out to about 9 million US$. Still a lot, but not much for space research.

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 		assuming no one has mentioned it on this topic beforehand, i'm going to add a little bit of trivia regarding the recent headlines. One in particular.

Tagruato says:

"Tagruato successfully launched its first geostationary satellite "Hatsui" yesterday afternoon"

What is a Geostationary Satellite i hear you ask:

Geostationary satellites are positioned at an exact height above the earth (about 36000 Km). At this height they rotate around the earth at the same speed as the earth rotates around its axis, so in effect remaining stationary above a point on the earth (normally directly overhead the equator).

As they remain stationary they are ideal for use as communications satellites and also for remote imaging as they can repeatedly scan the same points on the earth beneath them.

What does a satellite launch look like?

check this link out for what the tagruato launch may have looked like. I apologise for the bad quality vid

http://tinyurl.com/2yyzkr

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 		another thing: that new article also mentions "teleportation". tagruato scientists could have used this new technology to transport the monster directly to the front door of NYC. that could explain how it got so close to the city before being noticed. because...from a logic POV wouldnt the ship sonars or satellites have picked something up...a creature moving underwater as big as the empire state building...?

its just an idea....a speculation...probably not correct but still has its points.

***says tokyo based professor Akira Okinawa*** XD nice reference JJ.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akira_%28manga%29
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rekdal
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bmoney999 wrote:
goodluck wrote:
Maybe something happens to the launched sattelite regarding the lightning or weird weather that could possibly trigger some kind of reaction (then something else something else) and creates the monster back on earth.

Also, I have a feeling like Teddy is possibly one of the imported "young, fresh minds."



If that was the case, wouldn't the "Cause" be a term used as well by Tagruato, referencing something like a humanitarian cause through cheap energy solutions for example.

I think these are merely giving us more background into the wide range of activities Tagurato is involved in. From scientific research involving puppies, to space travel, to slusho making, to think tanks, to wax production etc. Tagruato is everywhere..... Twisted Evil


"This is what the industry needs right now: a company focused not on what its competitors are doing, but instead what it can do to make the world a better place" from "BOLD FUTURA HIRES "DREAM TEAM""

That sound like af cause to me... Confused

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 		HMM! perhaps johan is teddy's alias and hes infiltrated the company, as was previously stated the tagruato hack could have been an inside job! just a thought! Confused

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john locke wrote:
HMM! perhaps johan is teddy's alias and hes infiltrated the company, as was previously stated the tagruato hack could have been an inside job! just a thought! Confused

When I first read you post, I thought "Wow, that a pretty [WILD SPEC]" but now that I think about it, it's really not so far out there. Maybe Hanssen is in this "dream team".. but I'm not convinced that he's Hedberg; he'd need to be from Sweden and an internationally-acclaimed physics major, and we have no evidence of either. Still, possible...

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Also, I have a feeling like Teddy is possibly one of the imported "young, fresh minds."


I think so to. Ive always thought Teddy works for Tagruato.

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The new investor news item about the physics dream team Tagruato just hired features two names: Johan Hedberg and Mike Siegel. A quick google on both of these names reveal that these names belong to some fairly famous people. Johan Hedberg is a NHL hockey player (actually from Sweden like the one in the article) and Mike Siegel is a radio talk show host and communications expert. Why would they use these names when so far, they've been pretty good at making up fairly unusual names (Ganu, MacDooble, etc.)? Just seems like an odd choice, especially when the first google results point you directly to who these people really are.


Its possible that a) wanted names that would easily show up on google, and b) mask any mention of those names on sites. Possibly making us search harder. However, they could have just been stuck for names. Another thought could be they are trying to get a point that these names dont mean anything, and are just to add depth.

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W-Three wrote:

Its possible that a) wanted names that would easily show up on google, and b) mask any mention of those names on sites. Possibly making us search harder. However, they could have just been stuck for names. Another thought could be they are trying to get a point that these names dont mean anything, and are just to add depth.


I suppose that makes sense. They wanted us to be able to search for "MacDooble" to find more info for the game/experience, but these two names are just thrown in to give the article flavor. Simplest explanation is normally the correct one.

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