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[WF][Trailhead] Whitechapel Foundation: Open Cases
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cyberus
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zizka wrote:
Patel has an Indian connection as well.

Also:

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Thank you, Anonymous
Posted on October 18, 2007 by ethangrant
To clarify, that would be the "Anonymous" who left the note in the rather creative way on the afternoon of 10/15/07.

In light of the way you contacted me, didn't have a good way to respond; so thanks. The info you provided was interesting and useful. I'd like to chat some more, if possible. Send me a note the same way, I'll keep an eye out for it.

(from) http://ethangrant.wordpress.com

Any idea what this is about?


I have a feeling that may be the first letter in the series. We should ask Ethan about it.

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mortality
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Oh, I see how pip got Ethan's wordpress site. Ethan sent me that last email from his personal account at gmail. Blog address is in the signature.

So observant of me... Good thing I haven't abridged his emails.

Email to Ethan
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Good morning,
I feel a little sheepish today. I'd been sharing your emails directly with the other people checking out the strange notes. They noticed that you sent the last email from your personal account and checked out your personal website. I hope that doesn't cross any lines you'd rather we didn't.

Anyhow, we saw that you received an anonymous message in October. We wonder if you think the new notes might be related?

Best wishes,
Mort Kuolevaisuus
Freelance Investigator


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I'm really enjoying the idea of this ARG. Out of curiosity, has anyone tried to call the phone number on their front page? There is no reverse lookup entry for it.

edit - Disregard the number question. I read back again and I see there is a voicemail set up. So, has anyone tried to leave a message?

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cyberus
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Yup, I just tried again, goes directly to a voicemail. I'm not ready to shell out the cash to call the UK number, especially from my cell phone. If anyone has an international calling plan, feel free, although I have a feeling we'll get a similar result.

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in the interest of being thourough

the two pieces of tape fit together (i'll spare you my sloppy MS Paint work). So, if the mystery letter writers have been doing some painting, they are either done, or have everything all masked up already. Of course, they could have taken a break between letters...

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mortality wrote:
Oh, I see how pip got Ethan's wordpress site. Ethan sent me that last email from his personal account at gmail. Blog address is in the signature.

So observant of me... Good thing I haven't abridged his emails.

Email to Ethan
*snip*


heh. I'm a programmer who specializes in debugging. I tend to catch things that slip by unnoticed.

It stikes me as odd he got an anonymous letter as well...maybe he can shed some light on it.

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Sylvia wrote:
I still think the Simson Line will help to solve this.

http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Mathematicians/Wallace.html

I'm attaching the image here for archive purposes.

Notice the strange space and line at the bottom of the image. Maybe it's nothing, but it's odd.

I disagree. I dropped the perpendiculars (from the triangle 3). It doesn't lie on a line (Which would be the Simson line if it did), it forms a pedal triangle though. The point needs to lie on the circumference of the triangle to form that line. I don't think there's anything here, but it was an interesting idea.
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mortality
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What about if you use the "." in "W. Wallace" as the point?
Even if it does work, I'm not sure I see what it gets us.

My hunch is that it's a visual logic puzzle. Maybe some lateral (or equilateral?) thinking is required.

Email from Ethan

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Hi Mort,

That's not a problem at all. That must have been on the sig from that note I sent last night, huh? Well, sorry about that if you or any of your folks read through that blog, since it probably bored you into a stupor.

Regarding that other msg in October, that's a cool catch (man you guys are thorough), but that was completely unrelated - was working a case that had to do with strange beast sightings near Dollywood, of all places.

Ethan Grant
Associate Researcher
The Whitechapel Foundation

ethanSPLATwhitechapelfoundation.org
www.whitechapelfoundation.org


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zizka
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noam wrote:
Sylvia wrote:
I still think the Simson Line will help to solve this.

http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Mathematicians/Wallace.html

I'm attaching the image here for archive purposes.

Notice the strange space and line at the bottom of the image. Maybe it's nothing, but it's odd.

I disagree. I dropped the perpendiculars (from the triangle 3). It doesn't lie on a line (Which would be the Simson line if it did), it forms a pedal triangle though. The point needs to lie on the circumference of the triangle to form that line. I don't think there's anything here, but it was an interesting idea.


The Simpson line forms only when the point P is on a circle around the triangle. Odd thing is, I actually bought a compass yesterday (many hours before I noticed this story had started up). Why? Well, that's the kind of thig I do to entertain myself.

I think there may be some worth here, afterall. Perhaps if we get that line at the point(s) which it passes through the period in W. Wallace. . . It's an equailateral triangle, so the S-line should be fairly predictable.
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Hrm, so unrelated note. K.

I agree that it seems like a visual logic puzzle...I don't think the simpson line is part of it, though it can't hurt to check that angle out.

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What about if you use the "." in "W. Wallace" as the point?
Even if it does work, I'm not sure I see what it gets us.

Well, here it is. Much closer to a Simson line, but still not quite good enough. The point would have to be a little farther out. This tool can help you explore Simson Lines and Pedal triangles. I don't really know what it's supposed to show us, really, even it it was on the circumference.
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What if it's a geometric code? The letters on each side are somehow connected?

...idea struck me because of the lines you've been drawing between letters and some Googling of geometric, triangular, and visual puzzles.

Or perhaps we simply need to make an anagram out of all of those letters, what with a convenient punctuation mark.

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pipakin
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Has anyone asked the WC folks to look inside the flap of the envelope, or under the tape?

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Thinking to process the letter as she normally would, Ms. Fulmer opened the envelope along the top edge with a letter opener


Just for the sake of thoroughness.

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The cross references from the WF came back. Here's what they got:

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Initial crossref of the names found on the sheet of paper resulting in the following:

1. Enlil. As noted below, relates directly to a major Sumerian deity
1. Although this deity is referenced in numerous Foundation research documents, it has not been referenced in any past investigations.
2. W.Wallace (William Wallace?). Without further clarification the Foundation feels that William Wallace is the most likely reference.
1. The Foundation has worked on three cases within the 50 years that relate to William Wallace. All three cases were investigations into sightings of Wallace's ghost and all three investigations were conducted at Ardrossan castle where the ghost was thought to have been seen.
1. January 2-4, 1968. Findings: Inconclusive.
2. April 17-22, 1984. Finding: Inconclusive
3. February 29, 2004. Finding: Associate researcher Shane Macnab reported an unexplained feeling of dread and panic as he walked the castle grounds on the night of 2/29/04. No other events were recorded.
2. Ahasuerus


Interesting first observations from wikipedia (we may have a ghost story here):


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first thing you need for a simpson line is to identify the circle around the triangle: the point P will have to be on the circumference of the circle. If you draw perpendiculars to a point on that circle, they will form a simpson line. As you move the point along the circumference of the circle, the line moves. I was thinking that if you oriented the line such that it passed through the period, we may get a letter or two.

Honestly, though, I think this is probably not the way forward, but it's about the only thing I can think of right now. I sure wish I hadn't left my compass at home.

I've got an inscribed mock up of the pic; i'll see if I can eyball some perpendicualrs.

bah without some sort of tool, there's no way to be ceratin whether what I'm getting is gibberish because it's coded somehow or because this is the wrong tree up which ot bark. I'll try when I get home.
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