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[Question] Tidowave.com?
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HerOdyssey
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Tido Wave denies have taken part in the hacking


Yeah, and claiming that they did it in a public forum would certainly bring them unwanted consequences; so YEAH they're going to deny it. I'm sure the person who typed the denial was smirking.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:47 pm
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Dr. Awkward
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 		Re: Hmm
Nighthawk wrote:
We have no direct corroborating evidence for this site yet.

Not many of the IG sites have...
Slusho! was corroborated by a T-shirt in a movie preveiw...
JamieandTeddy was corroborated by - umm..nothing basically.
Unless you count the Myspace pages which were corroborated by umm...nothing.
Tagruato was corroborated by the mention of Ganu as CEO and the subsequent
link it provided to Slusho! - which had no direct corroborating evidence to begin with.
Maybe it's all a game jack...lol
Nighthawk wrote:

One thing that bothers me about this site: why use Domains by Proxy? That goes against everything that's been done with IG sites in the past. We've used WHOIS information in the past to establish something being "in game"... why hide it now?

You got me there Hawk - tho it does add a bit to the realism of a
nonprofit, grassroots, environmental activist organization calling
out a powerful, fully financed conglomerate.
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 		Granted, slusho has no real corroborating evidence. Jamieandteddy has Jamie lascano, and unless its someone who looks almost exactly like her...

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m_talon
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 		As someone who followed the Beast and other ARGs, there is a real good argument for TIDOWave being IG even though it's not a direct link.

When the hack went away and then came back, my mind screamed that we had missed something. That's a PMs way of telling you all that we missed something the first time around, and we need to get it before the story can move forward.

If TIDOWave is OOG, I'm sure more clues will appear to get us back on the right track. The lack of those clues, or more that lead to TIDO will be the final "sale" on TIDO being IG.

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 		Re: Hmm
Dr. Awkward wrote:

Nighthawk wrote:

One thing that bothers me about this site: why use Domains by Proxy? That goes against everything that's been done with IG sites in the past. We've used WHOIS information in the past to establish something being "in game"... why hide it now?

You got me there Hawk - tho it does add a bit to the realism of a
nonprofit, grassroots, environmental activist organization calling
out a powerful, fully financed conglomerate.


I think the reason for them using domains by proxy is that we're looking in the wrong places for clues. I think their new clues are in plain site on the webpages, not in "fictitious" registry information or by calling a Japanese phone number.

I think the designers of this "game" have figured out that they are putting too much resources ($$$) into making fictitious information that is ultimately irrelevant. I think this is also why they went form obscure names to common names recently. Without spending time ($$$) on developing that irrelevant info, they can dedicate more time towards what is relevant.

The new tidowave site has plenty of pages (possibly some more undiscovered pages too?) with a lot of new "key words" and articles for us to sift thru for more clues.

- - - - - - - - - --- - - -- -- ---- - -- - -

As I posted above about Google having a cache of the tidowave on the same day as the hack; as long as the hack was IG (and it "reappeared" so I assume it was IG) then the tidowave is IG too.

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Eddy
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 		Looks like tidowave admin has gone through and approved a bunch of comments.

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Eddy
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 		Whoever is approving comments isn't running a very tight ship. That's unfortunately. Makes me suspicious, but then again, it's the sort of gaff you'd expect of people who aren't really that good at this stuff.

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m0r1arty
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 		I'm like their main dude on the Hacker comments section. Very Happy

Well, top banana then. Smile

Ok, top poster. Laughing

-m0r

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m_talon
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 		Re: Hmm
jfiscus wrote:
I think the designers of this "game" have figured out that they are putting too much resources ($$$) into making fictitious information that is ultimately irrelevant. I think this is also why they went form obscure names to common names recently. Without spending time ($$$) on developing that irrelevant info, they can dedicate more time towards what is relevant.

The new tidowave site has plenty of pages (possibly some more undiscovered pages too?) with a lot of new "key words" and articles for us to sift thru for more clues.


Another thing to consider is timing. We're a little over a month away from the movie. They've got to make sure the storyline they have plotted out gets "solved" before then (assuming that the storyline explains the origins of the Monster). By making the clues more obvious, they don't have to worry about us not finding them.

We've already "failed" once by not getting the point of the hack. They had to post it again to get it to take. My guess is they won't be as subtle from here out.

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DougBThree
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Eddy wrote:
Whoever is approving comments isn't running a very tight ship.


Indeed. Comments about mutant monsters attacking New York in January and so forth. It seems like they just approved the whole batch of comments without bothering to screen any of them. While I believe this site is IG, this kind of gaffe will only fuel the IG vs. OOG debate even more.

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tomathan
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 		The Whois info
it predates hack by almost 2 weeks
Registered Through
GoDaddy.com, Inc.
Domain Name: tidowave.com
Created on: 2007-11-13 00:46:24
Expires on: 2009-11-13 05:46:24
Last Updated on: 2007-11-13 00:46:26

Seriously, unless these people are clarvoyant there is no way an oog site would be registered that fits so closely with something from an IG site like tagruato.

Let's look at this way.

1. This site is IG and the whois data backs that up because of my previous statements.

or

2.This site is OOG and these people either are mindreaders, or successfully hacked tagruato 2 times, once without the site reverting for 2 days so that their OOG site would be found.

Ockham's razor people

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m0r1arty
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 		Subtle isn't really the word I'd use.

For months there's been nothing - nothing, nothing , nothing, heck even a decent gamejack is better than waiting from an echo from the void.

If they'd fill up the expereince with plenty of stuff that can be looked into and not be finished within a couple of days then we're laughing. But I don't see that happening, it's not been too well conceived thusfar and I don't see that changing.

Jamie's gift perhaps..?

-m0r

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airteff
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 		Wow all that I can say about a majority of the comments on TIDOWave is just wow. I would like to find these people and shoot them.

They are not going to answer questions about the monster duh
I highly doubt you can just ask them about Teddy and they will be all like "Yeah of course we know Teddy, Teddy Hansen with the long hair and goatee, man that guy loves to drink and talk to his girlfriend Jamie"

The more people who post pointless comments the harder it makes for finding new clues.

Oh yeah and who is the genius who can't come up with a username so they feel the need to use characters names from the movie

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Eddy
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 		Here are my issues with the blanket comment approval.

1. I have a life believe it or not. It's bad enough that you've got me jumping from myspace to youtube to the .jp's. Now I'm going to have to sift through every tom dick and harry's comment on tidowave? Not going to happen.

2. Even if you don't care about that fiction, what happened to "TIDOWave guarantees total anonymity." By not screening approved comments, you're not guaranteeing squat.

3. Ummm, we're pretending to be you with The Effect and doing a better job of it.

Admission. Real life has been leaving me precious little time to spend on Cloverfield and I don't see any real letup any time soon. So I'm a bit frustrated. . I believe tidowave is IG. It's even exactly what I could hope for. Nevertheless, I'm feeling abused and foolish for playing at this point. I'll get over it. Apologies for the rant.

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Chupac
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 		You would think if they wanted the site to be realistic they would not have all those comments relating the monster or the movie. Even if it is IG the site just doesn't feel right.

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