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[SPEC]Tidowave.com is it OOG or is it IG
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thetruth
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 		i am personally thinking it is IG just because it does offer some info that would be very hard for some random gamejacker to come up with.

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TBILL
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It is my bet that someone saw The Effect, said "I can do that better" and did it.

If they did this they also finished working on their time machine,went to the future,deciphered the clue regarding TIDO, and then decided to name their website TIDOwave,then went back to the past(man I have got to get me one of those time machines) and created it. Very Happy
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on that note, why register a domain name a few days before the launch date
its possible the storyline has changed or how they want to play it out has changed since the beginning. To bad there is a zero chance of us getting a PM chat on this ARE.

Oh and Patrick, sorry if I was a little sarcastic there. It's just in my nature. Nothing personal.

Edit:cause I suck at typing

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thetruth wrote:
i am personally thinking it is IG just because it does offer some info that would be very hard for some random gamejacker to come up with.


Information that cannot be confirmed or denied, mind you...

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its possible the storyline has changed ro how they want to play it ou has changed since the beginning.


Not bloody likely.

Granted, we've seen them do some odd things before (like permitting the Photobucket hack, which I'm just waiting to see TIDOWave take credit for Smile ), but that's more technical problems with execution rather than storyline being flawed.

This storyline *must* have been written months ago because, let's face it, besides the movie it's the only other thing. And when your movie's only source of advertising is word of mouth through this ARG/E, you can't simply make it up as you go. The timelines might be off here and there because of time it take to discover things, but the plot should be established already.

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thetruth
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 		although it cant be confirmed i still have to believe its way to informative for your average geek to come up with

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TBILL
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Not bloody likely.



Agreed. Maybe they didn't get around to creating it because they are just lazy. There are procrastinaters on every line of work you know Smile

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thetruth wrote:
although it cant be confirmed i still have to believe its way to informative for your average geek to come up with


You underestimate the "average geek"... This forum should be evidence of that!

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 		If it's OGG then where is the IG site? Tagruato was hacked for a reason...to provide a clue to find something new...most likely a new IG website. The hack was done twice to make sure we found the right sequence to lead us to TIDOWave.com (either by an intrepid uf poster or a Paramount plant, whatever).

If TIDOWave is OOG, that means there still is an IG site still out there waiting to be found. I would think a 2nd site would have been found by now or we would get some "help" form a paramount plant, etc...

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TBILL
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Chump Force 1 wrote:
If it's OGG then where is the IG site? Tagruato was hacked for a reason...to provide a clue to find something new...most likely a new IG website. The hack was done twice to make sure we found the right sequence to lead us to TIDOWave.com (either by an intrepid uf poster or a Paramount plant, whatever).

If TIDOWave is OOG, that means there still is an IG site still out there waiting to be found. I would think a 2nd site would have been found by now or we would get some "help" form a paramount plant, etc...

I agree. This is one of the main marketing forces for this movie. Simply put JJ and CO. can't afford to let us not figure this stuff out. They need us to keep moving along with the game

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airteff
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 		I think TIDOwave is IG for all the reasons above. But I am glad we have skeptics because if we don't want a bunch of game jacks to go by unnoticed as IG.

Now that being said I think the main part of the arguement is just that to some it's doesn't feel right and to others it feels right(I fit into this camp)

Now as for the the .com thing since I'm under the impression that TIDOwave is comprised of eco terrorists I doubt they would have a .org. Plus it's for an ARE I don't know if they assumed we would all be arguing about .com vs a .org but then again don't think they counted on all the game jacks

Finally most game jacks are dismissed rather quickly we've been arguing about this for a couple days

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On that note, why register a domain name a few days before the launch date. All of this would have been in the story arc from the ARG PM's. They just don't go, hey I got an idea, let's do this instead. The story for a Viral/ARG is pretty much set in stone like a packaged product. I m sure there are cases where there is a major course correction but rarely.


Nothing is set in stone. They come up with an outline of what they want to accomplish, then fill in the blanks as they go along. Look at what happened with Lost last season. Everyone bitched and complained about Nikki and Paulo, so they killed them off.

It allows them flexibility to change the game if things don't work out the way they planned, and to add new things if better ideas come along.

Here are some relevant quotes from the Lost Experience ARG PMs:

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ARG Intelligence: Maintain role as "Puppet Master" running the game from behind the "Curtain," by constantly monitoring the gamer boards, identifying key gamers, and mining intelligence data from them without revealing yourself while the game is running. Be willing to follow the lead of the gamers. Some of the best content and ideas came from monitoring gamer speculation/theories and then developing content to support the best theories.

Flexibility: Being able to alter the storyline is crucial. The ARG story is broken into pieces which the audience must find and assemble. For example, having the ability to tell some back story first, then execute in present day, and revert to back story at the end allows the game to flow naturally.


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tMan930
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 		Is it impossible to just revel in the fact that it's cool?
I mean, it's almost definitely IG, so let's just pretend that it is, and maybe on January 19th JJ will tell us all what we wasted our time on, but we won't care because we're nerds anyway.

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On that note, why register a domain name a few days before the launch date. All of this would have been in the story arc from the ARG PM's. They just don't go, hey I got an idea, let's do this instead. The story for a Viral/ARG is pretty much set in stone like a packaged product. I m sure there are cases where there is a major course correction but rarely.

It is my bet that someone saw The Effect, said "I can do that better" and did it.

I would think that the PM's would have peppered that site with their own posts and then moderated in the rest. But there are some juvenile comments up there.



A few thoughts:

First: Do we know exactly when it was created?
Second: If it was created only a short time before the hack, it is possible that they simply did not want someone accidently stumbling onto a site (which would be referencing things and events that had not happened yet). The same reasoning could be applied to why they went about making this site a different way. They didn't want it to be found until they were ready.

Third: What about the Cache that we have seen from the day of/before the hack? Everyone seems to want to ignore this point...

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blaaaaaah
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 		Good lord, tidoWAVE is IN GAME.

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Redivo
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 		Maybe, the Tagruato Hack was also OOG, so, the hacker created tidowave before hand just to make his prank more convincing.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
naaah, common, its IG


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jfiscus
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 		I also just found another reference that points to this site being IG.
As everyone has mentioned before - noone has proven the "hack" to be IG; thus the whole question of this site being IG or not. If the hack is IG the site is IG; through my posting of Google's cache of tidowave.com BEFORE the hack.

If the hack is still under debate, consider this point for reference:
(infor found on http://cloverfieldclues.blogspot.com/)
tidowave.com was up on 11/23/07 (per google cache on that date)
tidowave.com mentions the death of the researcher & has the story there.
tagruato's voicemail now(?-I am uncertain as to the date it changed) mentions the funeral of said individual. If the tidowave.com is OOG why would tagruato mention the same individual NOW; after everyone has seen the "OOG" site with that same "random" name.

I think the site is 100% IG w/o a doubt.

As to why they're allowing ANYONE to post ANY comment, I have no idea, possibly the comments area has nothing to do with the game & we need to be looking at other aspects of the site, or at another site altogether from clues on that site?

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