Return to Unfiction unforum
 a.r.g.b.b 
FAQ FAQ   Search Search 
 
Welcome!
New users, PLEASE read these forum guidelines. New posters, SEARCH before posting and read these rules before posting your killer new campaign. New players may also wish to peruse the ARG Player Tutorial.

All users must abide by the Terms of Service.
Website Restoration Project
This archiving project is a collaboration between Unfiction and Sean Stacey (SpaceBass), Brian Enigma (BrianEnigma), and Laura E. Hall (lehall) with
the Center for Immersive Arts.
Announcements
This is a static snapshot of the
Unfiction forums, as of
July 23, 2017.
This site is intended as an archive to chronicle the history of Alternate Reality Games.
  

The time now is Sun Nov 24, 2024 8:23 am
All times are UTC - 4 (DST in action)		 View posts in this forum since last visit
View unanswered posts in this forum
Calendar
 Forum index » Archive » Archive: Cloverfield (1-18-08) » Cloverfield: General / Updates
[SPEC]Tidowave.com is it OOG or is it IG
View previous topicView next topic
Page 3 of 9 [128 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 Next
Author Message
tMan930
Unfettered


Joined: 25 Nov 2007
Posts: 458
Location: Up In There

 		Maybe they're letting anyone post because anyone can post anything on a real website? I know it's unconventional in the ARG world, but still. It might be a great excuse for laziness. Maybe they'll cut them down, etc.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:04 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Caerwiden
Unfettered


Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Posts: 651
gypsy songman wrote:
(sorry, but it'd be a challenge to put together that song from the brief clip in the J&T video)


No it wouldn't.

Anybody with a decent recording studio setup (like one of my ex-bandmates) would be able to do it.

It's not a hard song to play, you can't tell what he's saying and the production isn't very good.

Wouldn't be hard at all.

If the Myspace page were IG then their website wouldn't be a work in progress.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:08 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Patrick Star
Unfettered


Joined: 14 Nov 2007
Posts: 409
Location: Oregon

 		OMG a new site? - http://www.tidowave.org/ Twisted Evil

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:36 pm
 View user's profile Visit poster's website
 Back to top 
TBILL
Veteran


Joined: 15 Oct 2007
Posts: 116
Caerwiden wrote:
gypsy songman wrote:
(sorry, but it'd be a challenge to put together that song from the brief clip in the J&T video)


No it wouldn't.

Anybody with a decent recording studio setup (like one of my ex-bandmates) would be able to do it.

It's not a hard song to play, you can't tell what he's saying and the production isn't very good.

Wouldn't be hard at all.

If the Myspace page were IG then their website wouldn't be a work in progress.

I don't actuallly know if this is IG or not but just to point something out... Its one thing to be able to get a close approzimation of a song whipped up pretty quick but to get an EXACT sound-alike(is that a word?) is much much harder in that timeframe.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:00 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
gypsy songman
Veteran

Joined: 11 Oct 2007
Posts: 139
Caerwiden wrote:
If the Myspace page were IG then their website wouldn't be a work in progress.


In point of fact, it's not; it's just parked like teddyhanssen.com. It wouldn't be absurd to think they reserved the URL to prevent a gamejack. Basically we're stuck here till something definitive comes out. I'm suspicious of the myspace page (especially since I learned today that it was created the day of vid 4), but there's no 'gotcha'. Either tidowave will substantiate their claim soon, or the gamejackers will have outted themselves through an inflated sense of self-importance. Whichever the outcome is fine with me.

Caewiden wrote:
Anybody with a decent recording studio setup (like one of my ex-bandmates) would be able to do it.

It's not a hard song to play, you can't tell what he's saying and the production isn't very good.


Fair points. I'll play around with the audio tracks when I get home and see what I can see. Or are we assuming the jackers took apart video 4 and checked the frequencies to make sure theirs matched up? Smile

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:01 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
matt_ethec
Boot

Joined: 26 Nov 2007
Posts: 55
Caerwiden wrote:
gypsy songman wrote:
(sorry, but it'd be a challenge to put together that song from the brief clip in the J&T video)


No it wouldn't.

Anybody with a decent recording studio setup (like one of my ex-bandmates) would be able to do it.

It's not a hard song to play, you can't tell what he's saying and the production isn't very good.

Wouldn't be hard at all.



Sorry but I have to call shenanigans on that claim. It would be very hard to do given the time lapse between when someone uploaded the video and when the myspace was uncovered. Its beyond improbable that someone would be able to exactly match the beat and the lyrics. If you had a few days, sure. But it was a matter of hours.

Which do you find more likely? A musical genius is lurking this game to find a way that he can finally jack this game? Or that someone involved in the execution of the game screwed up and forgot to make the Myspace a few days earlier?

If this guy was that good why would he stop at two? What would be the point? Why wouldn't he keep presenting his music. Or link to his legit band some way. Just doesn't make sense.

(By the way, I think you should do it to prove you claim. Show us a video of you and your friend recreating that music in just a few hours. That would be sweet.)

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:24 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
MrToasty
I Have 100 Cats and Smell of Wee


Joined: 03 Aug 2004
Posts: 4310
Location: Des Moines, IA

 		See if this adds anything to the GH debate:
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21966&start=69

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:36 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
W-Three
Unfettered

Joined: 29 Sep 2007
Posts: 348
Location: 50° S 100° W
Quote:
i am personally thinking it is IG just because it does offer some info that would be very hard for some random gamejacker to come up with.



If this is a gamejack, it would'nt be some random gamejacker.
Quote:

If they did this they also finished working on their time machine,went to the future,deciphered the clue regarding TIDO, and then decided to name their website TIDOwave,then went back to the past(man I have got to get me one of those time machines) and created it. Very Happy


Keep in mind the hack is still suspect (to a degree). There is no mention of the hack, and although this may just be 'we arent going to admit to it' its still a little iffy.

Quote:
If it's OGG then where is the IG site? Tagruato was hacked for a reason...to provide a clue to find something new...most likely a new IG website. The hack was done twice to make sure we found the right sequence to lead us to TIDOWave.com (either by an intrepid uf poster or a Paramount plant, whatever).
If TIDOWave is OOG, that means there still is an IG site still out there waiting to be found. I would think a 2nd site would have been found by now or we would get some "help" form a paramount plant, etc...
[/quote]

The way things are looking, if TIDOwave is OOG, then the hack is too. And also, the hack may not have been a clue to a site anyway.

Quote:

Finally most game jacks are dismissed rather quickly we've been arguing about this for a couple days


AKAparralax

Quote:
No it wouldn't.

Anybody with a decent recording studio setup (like one of my ex-bandmates) would be able to do it.

It's not a hard song to play, you can't tell what he's saying and the production isn't very good.

Wouldn't be hard at all.

If the Myspace page were IG then their website wouldn't be a work in progress.


I should also point out that im getting closer to finding out where the songs come from. Right now im sifting through vast amounts of death, black and various other kinds of metal to try and find those songs...if they exist.

Quote:

Sorry but I have to call shenanigans on that claim. It would be very hard to do given the time lapse between when someone uploaded the video and when the myspace was uncovered. Its beyond improbable that someone would be able to exactly match the beat and the lyrics. If you had a few days, sure. But it was a matter of hours.


Thats debatable, the song is very simple. I know people that can play a song after hearing it only once or twice. Plus, the song recording is bad, so if it was slightly different, we wouldn't know.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:46 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Caerwiden
Unfettered


Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Posts: 651
matt_ethec wrote:
Caerwiden wrote:
gypsy songman wrote:
(sorry, but it'd be a challenge to put together that song from the brief clip in the J&T video)


No it wouldn't.

Anybody with a decent recording studio setup (like one of my ex-bandmates) would be able to do it.

It's not a hard song to play, you can't tell what he's saying and the production isn't very good.

Wouldn't be hard at all.



Sorry but I have to call shenanigans on that claim. It would be very hard to do given the time lapse between when someone uploaded the video and when the myspace was uncovered. Its beyond improbable that someone would be able to exactly match the beat and the lyrics. If you had a few days, sure. But it was a matter of hours.

Which do you find more likely? A musical genius is lurking this game to find a way that he can finally jack this game? Or that someone involved in the execution of the game screwed up and forgot to make the Myspace a few days earlier?

If this guy was that good why would he stop at two? What would be the point? Why wouldn't he keep presenting his music. Or link to his legit band some way. Just doesn't make sense.

(By the way, I think you should do it to prove you claim. Show us a video of you and your friend recreating that music in just a few hours. That would be sweet.)


Yeah, I would except I can't, he lives in Nottingham and I don't and we don't talk much anymore.

Seriously though, it's not a hard song to copy, it has a couple of simple riffs, a simple, repetitive beat, the production is terrible and the vocals are unintelligible, plus, the sound on the video is crap, you can't even hear most of the drum hits in the actual video so despite your claims that it's an "exact match" we don't actually KNOW that because of the crappy sound quality on the video.

You're making it sound as though I'm saying that somebody was waiting for this opportunity when I'm not. I'm saying that someone with the skills to replicate that song heard it and did so.

There are thousands of us on this ARG and I know at least one person who could record a match for the song we heard within the time frame you mentioned, it's not unreasonable to suggest that somebody else might either be able to do it themselves or know someone who can.

The band I was in once wrote and recorded a song in 2 hours from scratch, we were really good at it. He's the kind of guy you can play something to and he'll pick it up really quickly and like I said, it's really not a hard song to play.

If the Myspace page is IG, WHY do they have a link to a website that doesn't exist?

Their website was registered the same day as the Myspace was created and it STILL hasn't had any updates.

I'm not convinced of its authenticity at all, disbelieve me all you like, I know what's possible and what isn't and that's fine for me.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:47 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
matt_ethec
Boot

Joined: 26 Nov 2007
Posts: 55

 		Fine. You win. It was copied in seconds flat.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:05 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
W-Three
Unfettered

Joined: 29 Sep 2007
Posts: 348
Location: 50° S 100° W
Quote:
Fine. You win. It was copied in seconds flat.


That, unless I am mistaken, is a straw man. If not than its just plain exaggerating.

In any case, there could be numerous ways to get the song, by either making it themselves, or recognizing it.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:30 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
TBILL
Veteran


Joined: 15 Oct 2007
Posts: 116

 		Here is what I think. IF this site is oog then it isn't because someone got the song and did there own recording of it. Lets think about that for a bit. It would require not only some very talented musicians but also the ability to get them all together in a short amount of time to record something that they all got to hear AT the studio.
I don't know about anyone else but when I was in a band it took coordinating to get together for practice. If one of my band mates called and said. "Ok quick there is this online game I have been following and you have to come over here right now and help me re-record this song from it so we can pretend to be a different band and NOT promote ourselves in anyway." Right.

If this is a jack it is far more likely that someone found the actual recording of the song somewhere and just posted that on the Myspace page.

Just my $.02

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:42 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Patrick Star
Unfettered


Joined: 14 Nov 2007
Posts: 409
Location: Oregon

 		[HUMOR]
OMG Another TIDO site what the hell? http://www.tidowave.net/ Shocked

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:06 pm
 View user's profile Visit poster's website
 Back to top 
Caerwiden
Unfettered


Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Posts: 651
TBILL wrote:
Here is what I think. IF this site is oog then it isn't because someone got the song and did there own recording of it. Lets think about that for a bit. It would require not only some very talented musicians but also the ability to get them all together in a short amount of time to record something that they all got to hear AT the studio.
I don't know about anyone else but when I was in a band it took coordinating to get together for practice. If one of my band mates called and said. "Ok quick there is this online game I have been following and you have to come over here right now and help me re-record this song from it so we can pretend to be a different band and NOT promote ourselves in anyway." Right.

If this is a jack it is far more likely that someone found the actual recording of the song somewhere and just posted that on the Myspace page.

Just my $.02


Actually it only requires one person with access to a guitar and Cubase.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:07 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Marauder2001
Veteran


Joined: 04 Dec 2007
Posts: 79

 		Decided to stop lurking just to throw my cents in:

I think the TIDOwave is legit, the .com instead of .org might be an oversight, or maybe have something to do with the real world owners being a corporation.

The proxy-whois might be to stop people going off on a goosechase, when the purpose of the site is something else.

A few notes:

The numbers on the cruel-tine board: 42, 33, 18. Anyone got an idea what they might signify?

The comments: They seem to be moderated in some way, but not more than the overall effect is like comments on any similiar page. (some non-sequiteurs, some with poor spelling etc..) Is it possible that some of the comments are planted by the PMs? The best place to hide a truth is between two lies, to quote X-files.

Last, the introflash (With the tagruato logo changing into claws and squeeing the earth) Theres some black spots/marks on the side of the earth which are not the continents, just seem odd... Anyone tried to captured the images and played around with them? Seems like distorted images to me, but I dont have the software to capture and play about with them. Sad

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:29 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 3 of 9 [128 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 Next
View previous topicView next topic
 Forum index » Archive » Archive: Cloverfield (1-18-08) » Cloverfield: General / Updates
Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum



Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group