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irongoddess
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didn't see this one posted yet:
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MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY
Getting muddled here. Sick, obviously.

Broken inside. Not thinking straight.

Got to go back to first principles.

Survive evade reveal escape.

Survive-well, I'm not dead yet.
Evade-don't want to evade. I want to be FOUND.

...unless...

...of course, if I am behind enemy lines, then constantly shouting for help wouldn't be the smartest play in the world, would it?

got to run silent. got to run deep.

hide and go seek


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MageSteff
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fireball wrote:
Quote:

Of course the crew won't come for me if they're all dead. If they're all dead and I alone am left to tell the tale.


From Moby Dick.
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hollow1
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Something that might not mean anything, but I searched for "mayday bees" in google and came up with two similar bits of information though I'm not exactly sure what they have to do with May Day or mayday:

Quote:

Folk Customs Today: Bees are thought to understand human speech and they keep secrets well. If someone dies in a beekeeper's family, the bees must be informed. (4)


Quote:
On the occasion of a death, the old people made it a point to drape the flowers with mourning and tell the news to the bees.

Mrs. Pascoe of St. Hilary relates that in 1838 she saw a bit of black flag attached to a church woman's flowers. She explained that since her son had died being burnt to death, the flowers had begun to wither away and were only revived after she put on the piece of mourning.

A man in 1888 mentioned that as a boy he had seen thirty beehives belonging to Mr. Joshua Fox of Tregedna tied up in crepe because of a death in the family.

Another man at the same time said that recently he saw at the First and Last Inn in Land's End, at the death of its landlady, all of the flowers and birdcages creped in order to prevent their deaths.

(Robert Hunt, Popular Romances of the West of England.)


There are also many other links to May Day and bees. It is a time of milk and honey, etc.

Bees are linked to Pagan Goddesses, immortality, etc.

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Nightmare Tony
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Quote:

Of course the crew won't come for me if they're all dead. If they're all dead and I alone am left to tell the tale.


From Moby Dick.
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For some reason, I am reminded of some words from this song called Orpheus, by David Sylvian on his record Secrets of the Beehive...

http://www.alwaysontherun.net/david.htm
(didnt know he had an album called dead bees on a cake)

http://www.alwaysontherun.net/david.htm#s4

might help to read the entire song's lyrics, its more a feel, but some things like stony ground, wasnt there a stony something mentioned earlier? but the song reminds of the literature quoted above; read for yourseplf....
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Orikaeshigitae
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Added a couple MAYDAY quotes to the text.

Quote:
AYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY Tricky. Can't seem to focus. Need to start on the easy ones, like "up". Move on to the compass later.
Up.

Up.

...Damn it.

You'd think "up" wouldn't be too much to ask. It's not like nor-nor-east or something.

I need to find out where I am. Also who, but that might be less important. It's possible the two things are related.

Stars, I need stars. I was always a fine sailor; they said my navigation was celestial.

I think I am a fallen star. I should wish on myself. Please let me go home, please let me go home, please let me go home, please let me go home, please please please please please please please ple


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MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY Getting muddled here. Sick, obviously.
Broken inside. Not thinking straight.

Got to go back to first principles.

Survive evade reveal escape.

Survive-well, I'm not dead yet. Evade-don't want to evade. I want to be FOUND.

...unless...

...of course, if I am behind enemy lines, then constantly shouting for help wouldn't be the smartest play in the world, would it?

got to run silent. got to run deep.

hide and go seek

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bgardner
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military background

Quote:
Survive evade reveal escape.

A reference to SERE (survive, evade, resist, escape). Note the individual messed up the third principal (should be resist, but she said reveal). SERE training is a part of military training.

Quote:
Survival Key #3: How Badly Are You Hurt?

Another reference to some type of formalized survival training

Quote:
FIELD EXPEDIENT DIRECTION FINDING

"Find a straight stick about a meter long and stand it upright on fairly level upright ground. Mark the tip of the shadow cast by the stick: wait 15 minutes: mark the shadow again. Draw a line from the first mark through the second and some way beyond. Stand with your left foot on the first mark and your right on the end of the line. In the northern hemisphere, you will now be facing north, and can recall the other directions by their relationship to north. In the south, contrariwise."


A third reference to some type of formalized survival training.

Quote:
length: 120 meters crew: 40 cover: pleasure yacht
ha ir co lor: b r o wn


A reference to a cover story. The subject is likely some type of undercover military operative.

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strifey
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Not really a MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY snippet, but fits best...hidden in th e background sometimes it says...

Seek the truth

Behold the truth

Reveal the truth

That is the law and the whole of the law

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Observation: Changed words

It was pointed out by a few people, that some liberties were taken with some of the literary quotes. Intentional?

Quote:
Those are pearls that were her eyes:
Nothing of her that doth fade
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange


From The Tempest, but with "her" instead of "his"

Quote:
It happened one day, about noon, going towards my boat, I was exceedingly surprised with the print of a flea's naked foot on the shore, which was very plain to be seen on the sand.


From Robinson Crusoe, but with "flea's" instead of "man's"

Quote:
Survive evade reveal escape.


From Navy SEALS (and other?) training, but with "reveal" instead of "resist".

Significant? Any others?
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[SPEC] Who's saying what

strifey wrote:
Seek the truth

Behold the truth

Reveal the truth

That is the law and the whole of the law

That's a good catch Strifey. I've been wondering about it, because it is a little different stylistically from everything else. It's the only little snippet that has this quality (in terms of the content of the writing, a little philosophical and deep) and formatting (white, italicized).

Rose's Widow's Story has me looking for a few particular entities. I'm wondering if these are the words of the Flea, who tries hard not to be noticed. It seems likely to me that the Widow is our friend the SPDR (think of Addlepated's lovely icon) who is obviously trying to do some diagnostic and repair work on something, likely to repair her lady the Queen who would be the author of the MAYDAY stuff. I think this fits alright with the facts at hand, but it remains speculative. I'm starting to get a little suspicious of the conclusions that my brain jumps at ... finding structures that may or may not be valid.

I wonder, though, who is the author of the Widow's story itself? It strikes me that the SPDR is a little, well, utilitarian for that sort of thing (although you never know ... it would be quite an entity that can spew out that sort of 'console' output and also have a flair for fairy tale homilies). It could be our Queen's subconscious telling the story, but I kind of like the chronicler being the Flea. The footprint on the beach that the MAYDAY author has seen could be these four lines that Strifey has posted above.
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Re: Observation: Changed words

fireball wrote:
It was pointed out by a few people, that some liberties were taken with some of the literary quotes. Intentional?

Significant? Any others?


It was pointed out by someone else that the letters A and I are missing from the Gulliver's Travels in Lilliput text.

Also should we be looking at titles and/or Author names? Or does the inclusion of munged SEAL training acronym blow that pathway?
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Nightmare Tony
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Magesteff wrote:


It was pointed out by someone else that the letters A and I are missing from the Gulliver's Travels in Lilliput text.


Ok, love those missing letters. Kind of BEASTly, dont you think?
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Re: Observation: Changed words

Magesteff wrote:
fireball wrote:
It was pointed out by a few people, that some liberties were taken with some of the literary quotes. Intentional?

Significant? Any others?


It was pointed out by someone else that the letters A and I are missing from the Gulliver's Travels in Lilliput text.


Yeah, it was jamesi that pointed that out. What he said was that it could be that the text was copied, as if the first letters were graphic files (BIG A and BIG I) that didn't survive the cut-n-paste.

Still, worth noting.
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hmmm

gee, doesn't A.I. stand for something?

I was sure that it did.....

Maybe we need to check all the texts and list the missing or changed words? Maybe someone has already done that and I haven't seen it.

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Caterpillar
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Re: hmmm

rose wrote:
gee, doesn't A.I. stand for something?

I was sure that it did.....


Stands for.........TOBI Very Happy

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Re: hmmm

rose wrote:
gee, doesn't A.I. stand for something?

I was sure that it did.....

Maybe we need to check all the texts and list the missing or changed words? Maybe someone has already done that and I haven't seen it.


Um...Artificial Intelligence? Very Happy

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