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[SPEC] The Lovecraftian angle.
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Marauder2001
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[SPEC] The Lovecraftian angle.
Just my take on how the cthulhu mythos could fit with what we know.

Im not saying this is a cthulhu mythos movie, so keep the flames low. Very Happy JJ said he wanted a truely american monster, and Lovecraft being an american who singelhandedly started a whole genre of horrorwriting could fit the bill...

Now.

Great Cthulhu lies dormant in sunken R'hylee on in the deep sea, dreaming and causing madness among succeptible humans. Similar sunken cities exist elsewhere, remnants of the Elder Things and other extra-planetary species who once colonized this planet. Sea Bed Nectar could be a substance left at these sunken cities, once made as foodstuffs for the original inhabitants on their intergalactic journeys, having properties we cannot fathom.

Cthulhu is said to rise again when the stars are right (Tagruato is dabbeling in space exploration, and there are talks of "furthering mankind". Also the strange star with "new flavour added" on the slusho site)

Now I see a few possible angles: Tagruato is harvesting the sea bed nectar, possibly not fully aware of the origin of the stuff, and unwittingly wake Cthulhu, either by accident or via the madness of the staff on the new station. Or, Ganu has planned to awaken the great old one all along to further his plans. Or, more interestingly, Tag is just harvesting the sea bed nectar, while TIDOwave is in fact a cult who see Tags actions as herecy, and see the awakening of the great old one with the natural consequence being the extinction of mankind, as a cure all.

The Cthulhu-option would also neatly give the aftermath. If the stars are NOT right when he rises, the great old one would have to return to his sunken prison,when the effects of the nectar runs out... But not until the largest consentration of vermin (humans) nearby is laid in ruins (namely NY City) and the vermin (humans) therein are dead or irrevocably insane.

Cthulhu has a reason (as it is) to attack NY as well, as he would see us as usurpers of his domain and start the clean up, just like we would react to a hive of cockroaches behind the fridge in an appartment.

The "small monsters", if they exist, can be either Cthulus star spawn or insane/mutated innocent people, or just cultist revelling in their walking gods glory...

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AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bang Head

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And yes, I did search to see if there was any decent threads I could necromance:

Your search - lovecraftian starspawn stars are right - did not match any documents. [/i]

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Because we'll probably get most, if not all, of the backstory online, anything's possible. Whether they actually use names from Lovecraft or not, there could still be something Lovecraftian about the backstory that's eventually revealed. Why not? In fact, given the total implausibility of a bipedal land animal that's the size of a skyscraper, something Lovecraftian would be more 'believable' than a Slusho-induced mutation or some such; b/c once you accept that it's from another dimension, anything goes! It would also allow the thing to just disappear after attacking NYC (if they wanted to make the story go that way).

If there are any such elements, I'd think it would be better if Tagruato was just a drilling corporation out to make money - not overly evil, but just a standard big corporation out to make profits and do potentially helpful research along the way, etc. TIDO is also just a run of the mill environmentalist group, perhaps prone to taking more drastic methods than others, but that's all. That way, we could start to get wrapped up in a fight between TIDO and Tagruato and then all that would become meaningless compared to the apocalyptic hell that's unwittingly been awakened... Surprised I just think that'd be cool.

But, yeah, Lovecraft was American, so JJ could certainly be drawing upon that whole 'mythos.' And, he did say he wanted his monster to be "insane and intense" so that also fits w/Lovecraft. Wink

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I'm starting to think that this Cthulu angle is actually Cthulu trying to drive me mad. We know he loves to do that. And so he keeps bringing it up in these threads...DAMN YOU CTHULU

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not to be an ass....but TIDO....not TIGO....


oppps i'm an ass.

Smile

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What are you talking about mhovis?

Ha! The power of the EDIT! Wink

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Anyone else think this "game" isn't going anywhere? I don't think this thing was very well planned. It seems to have overgrown the PMs expectations, or it was never meant to do anything more than create buzz for the film. Thoughts?

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plush cthulhu says: "epic fail"

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Ivo wrote:
Anyone else think this "game" isn't going anywhere? I don't think this thing was very well planned. It seems to have overgrown the PMs expectations, or it was never meant to do anything more than create buzz for the film. Thoughts?


I agree. I think there are 2 general possibilities here: (1) this was never intended to be anything other than viral marketing, and it grew out of their control b/c we all enthusiastically assumed it was an ARG; or (2) it's leading up to an ARG, that will start after the movie is released. Even if the truth is closer to #1, they might scramble and try to make a post-movie ARG anyway. I have no familiarity with ARG's or viral marketing campaigns, so I have no experience to draw upon, but my hunch (and hope) is that the truth is closer to #2 - only b/c there's so much potential for an involved story, with Ganu and Tagruato and Teddy and TIDO, etc. If it was just marketing, I can't see why they'd bother laying out the foundations of such a potentially elaborate story. But, as I said, I know bupkiss about the how's and why's of modern marketing (and/or ancient marketing for that matter).

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Ivo wrote:
Anyone else think this "game" isn't going anywhere? I don't think this thing was very well planned. It seems to have overgrown the PMs expectations, or it was never meant to do anything more than create buzz for the film. Thoughts?


...id hate to see what you'd be saying if you had joined months ago.

if anything, all the viral stuff is just backstory to make the movie an inside joke for all the dedicated fans. im fine with that.

post-movie ARG... even better

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Aww, you mispelled "R'yleh." : (

And yeah, as much as I'd like it to be a Lovecraft movie (the Shoggoth are being harvested for Sluho!), it's not gonna be. Just a hunch.

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Hey-

There's a bookstore in wrigleyville by my apartment that has a copy of H.P. Lovecraft's The Call of Cthulhu . Also, in the very same bookstore, a Lost poster and a rare copy of James Joyce's Ulysses.

Perhaps JJ is planting subtle hints in Chicago? Rolling Eyes

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Marauder2001 wrote:
And yes, I did search to see if there was any decent threads I could necromance:

Your search - lovecraftian starspawn stars are right - did not match any documents. [/i]


Searching google for "U2 is a totally awesome band" is going to come up with as many results as "U2", ya' know.

Cthulhu has been beaten to death


Game over.

Though I won't be surprised if J.J. makes a Cthulhu movie after Star Trek now that he knows what people really want.

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tMan930 wrote:
Searching google for "U2 is a totally awesome band" is going to come up with as many results as "U2", ya' know.


thats exactly what i was thinking haha

tMan930 wrote:
Cthulhu has been beaten to death


any thoughts Cthulhu? Smile

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