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[SpaceBass]

[META] Arguments For/Against New Chat Room

[Wishi-san]

Surely that's OOG?

I know the discussions in there ain't exactly in game.

[celina63]

I just posted a comment to her blog, directing her to a new channel we just set up - #ilovebees - in order to not "knock down the 4th wall" as Ikkarus so elegantly put it

So... we're in there now, and the discussion is whether we should put a bot in there, merely as something to keep the room open...

C

[SpaceBass]

Why did you set up a new channel? The way she phrased the query made it apparent she wasn't going to go there, she was going to direct others there. It looks like these PMs at least have some understanding of controlling their environment rather than letting the players dictate the terms of the game.

I keep saying it over and over, hoping it will sink in eventually: it is the sole responsibility of the PMs - NOT the players - to uphold the curtain by ignoring that which is meta and incorporating the proper player responses into their game, should they wish to do so. The players do not have the duty, nor the right, to attempt to wrest control of the game away from the PMs. If you set up separate in-game channels, separate in-game forums, separate in-game personae, you are now playing a Role-Playing Game, not an ARG. I, for one, do not wish to play any RPGs.

[Ikkarus]

And while I agree with what you are saying in theory, the fact is that the channel info is getting posted to an in-game site, so it should also be considered in-game. In reality, the new channel is just a waiting room and a bridge between in-game and out. When and if real people (not game characters) show up there, we'll just point them to the regular out-of-game channel.

[vpisteve]

Hmmm,

My take on this comment:

[Wishi-san]

That's just completely wrong.

If someone says in chat to say Dina, hey why not come hang out in #unfiction? Yeah, what a good idea that is...

What's she/the PM supposed to say? Err, no I err, can't.

You seem to be making arguments out of nothing. So you create a different chat room? Now it's automatically an RPG? Well no one told me that. Your opinion, while yours, certainly doesn't seem to coincide with most others' who seem to think it was a good idea to create a separate chat.

This seems to be coming up a lot lately. But why should PMs be expected to ignore players? The players (which is what they are, ARG/RPG/whatever you decide it is) should learn themselves where there is a boundary between in and out of game.

Edit: I didn't actually read the comment from Dina, I was just going off what others were saying btw.

[Nash Carey]

[Ikkarus]

[vpisteve]

OK everyone, take a breath.

Let's just let the PMs play this out the way they want to. They're in control of what happens, after all. Nobody has shilled unfiction on any game site as far as I know.

Relax.

[MageSteff]

[Wishi-san]

If you don't want anonymous posting then disable it.

[AmyCarey]

Actually NO! Mr. Smarty Pants... It is his WIFE. That's "whack"!

[celina63]

FWIW, I don't think new channel/no new channel has anything to do with making anyone play anywhere. Even if I *would* have posted a not-new channel, it WOULD NOT have been #unfiction.

C

[SpaceBass]