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[META] Why the hostility towards Jamie?

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OliMango
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InAFieldofClover wrote:

bloopbloop wrote:

I hope she survives and gets killed by a bookshelf after the credits.

That'd be hilarious. She'd deserve it for wearing next to nothing in all her videos and then piling on 40 layers for her 'striptease' Laughing

What's a good striptease without anything to strip?

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:25 pm

InAFieldofClover
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OliMango wrote:

InAFieldofClover wrote:

bloopbloop wrote:

I hope she survives and gets killed by a bookshelf after the credits.

That'd be hilarious. She'd deserve it for wearing next to nothing in all her videos and then piling on 40 layers for her 'striptease' Laughing

What's a good striptease without anything to strip?

Not good at all when each layer covers up more than the previous did and it ends abruptly after costume #89

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:26 pm

mercurix
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Caerwiden wrote:

I only slightly dislike her. It was the third video that did it, the way she was like "I MUST TELL YOU THIS BEFORE YOUR EX TELLS YOU LIES" thing kinda made me feel like she was lying. One of my exes was kinda similar, so it made me think of that.

Yeah, I've been with lying whores like that myself, and that seems like a line they teach them at S.L.U.T. Academy cuz they all know it and use it.

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:32 pm

cashingin
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Why the hostility toward Jamie?

Might have something to do with the rampant misogyny on display in this thread. Way to class up the Internet, folks.

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:59 pm

InAFieldofClover
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Re: Why the hostility toward Jamie?

cashingin wrote:

Might have something to do with the rampant misogyny on display in this thread. Way to class up the Internet, folks.

I don't think any of the posts in here (except for those guys going on about their exes) are misogynistic. Jamie, thus far, has been pegged as the token "slutty blonde airhead" character and people are going to treat her as such.

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:01 pm

Caerwiden
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Re: Why the hostility toward Jamie?

InAFieldofClover wrote:

cashingin wrote:

Might have something to do with the rampant misogyny on display in this thread. Way to class up the Internet, folks.

Erm, I just gave one example of why I dislike her a little, she reminds me from video 3 of something bad which happened to me. That doesn't mean I hate women.

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:04 pm

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Re: Why the hostility toward Jamie?

cashingin wrote:

Might have something to do with the rampant misogyny on display in this thread. Way to class up the Internet, folks.

Oh come now, you know that's a lost cause anyway!

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:05 pm

cashingin
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Re: Why the hostility toward Jamie?

InAFieldofClover wrote:

[I don't think any of the posts in here (except for those guys going on about their exes) are misogynistic. Jamie, thus far, has been pegged as the token "slutty blonde airhead" character and people are going to treat her as such.

That's exactly what I was talking about. The amount of abuse being heaped on Jamie -- hoping she dies in a horrific manner, comparing her to "lying whores" or sluts -- says less about the character and more about the mindsets of the commenters. It's not pretty.

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:11 pm

InAFieldofClover
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Re: Why the hostility toward Jamie?

cashingin wrote:

InAFieldofClover wrote:

You've never seen a film character and hope they died? It's not about wishing harm on another person, it's hoping a character gets written off to make the film, show, or book in question more enjoyable. One less roadblock, so to speak. There were those two numbskulls on Lost I was hoping would die, and they did, but I never wished death on a real couple.

And I mean, come on man... have we forgotten about Jar Jar Binks!?

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:13 pm

OliMango
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Re: Why the hostility toward Jamie?

cashingin wrote:

InAFieldofClover wrote:

Erm, have you even watched her videos?

I mean, none of use really hope she dies in real life or anything, it's a movie. All in fun.

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:14 pm

InAFieldofClover
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Re: Why the hostility toward Jamie?

OliMango wrote:

cashingin wrote:

InAFieldofClover wrote:

Erm, have you even watched her videos?

I mean, none of use really hope she dies in real life or anything, it's a movie. All in fun.

Logic doesn't appeal to those trying to be self righteous on the internet, which is even more annoying than the mysogonists.

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:14 pm

Melampus
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I think most of us calling Jamie a "drunk ho" were just trying to find the shortest way to describe her obvious (and 2-dimensional) character traits. If I knew of a more respectful way to quickly describe a fictional character who seems to be defined by alcoholism and having sex w/random guys, I'd use it. It's not a slam on women in general, just this one fictional character.

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:23 pm

cashingin
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Re: Why the hostility toward Jamie?

OliMango wrote:

cashingin wrote:

InAFieldofClover wrote:

Erm, have you even watched her videos?

I mean, none of use really hope she dies in real life or anything, it's a movie. All in fun.

I did see the videos. And I agree that Jamie is a little dim as a character. But it would never have occurred to me to think she should die in the movie because she didn't show off enough in her striptease video. Who the fuck thinks like that?

As for her being just a character -- well, more power to you if you can condone violent, sexualized comments against fantasy characters and condemn them against real-life people. I personally think it's disgusting in either case.

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:29 pm

InAFieldofClover
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Re: Why the hostility toward Jamie?

cashingin wrote:

OliMango wrote:

cashingin wrote:

InAFieldofClover wrote:

Erm, have you even watched her videos?

I mean, none of use really hope she dies in real life or anything, it's a movie. All in fun.

This is a ridiculous argument, man.

There have been many annoying characters in the horror/sci-fi genre. Hell, these two specific genres are known for it. A brief summary of people I wanted to die for the better of the overall movie/show: The Jay Mewes rip-off in "Freddy vs. Jason", Jar Jar Binks, Paulo and Nikki from "Lost". The list goes on.

The difference between real life and the movies is that there are characters more or less designed to elicit disdain from the viewer. Stating that people who want specific characters in films or shows to get written off means they wish for people in real life to die is ridiculous. The horror genre in particular depends on those characters. Or do you fall in line with one of those nuts who thinks violent films turn regular people into killers?

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:35 pm

cashingin
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Re: Why the hostility toward Jamie?

InAFieldofClover wrote:

[The difference between real life and the movies is that there are characters more or less designed to elicit disdain from the viewer. Stating that people who want specific characters in films or shows to get written off means they wish for people in real life to die is ridiculous. The horror genre in particular depends on those characters. Or do you fall in line with one of those nuts who thinks violent films turn regular people into killers?

No, and that's a red herring. I'm trying to draw attention to the fact that some of the commenters have been expressing their dislike of Jamie -- who I agree is kind of annoying, and would not be surprised to her die early in the film -- in sexist and even misogynist terms. It's that mindset I'm criticizing. It's less a matter of "movies and real life" and more "people who comment on the internet."

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:47 pm

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